[PEN-L:8281] Re: On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I agree. Absolutely, but I wouldn't then want to go say this made finance epiphenomenal, or secondary, or parasitical, or euthanizable, or any of the other things that people sometimes say. Capitalist production is about the accumulation of money and the transformation of everything into

[PEN-L:8280] Re: On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Doug Henwood
At 6:04 PM 1/17/97, Michael Perelman wrote: I would go beyond what Doug says about the fuzzy boundary between finance and industry. Old time capitalists were more rooted in their industry. Today, everything is screened via ROI, everything is treated as if it is saleable, capable of being

[PEN-L:8279] On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I would go beyond what Doug says about the fuzzy boundary between finance and industry. Old time capitalists were more rooted in their industry. Today, everything is screened via ROI, everything is treated as if it is saleable, capable of being securitized -- Michael Perelman Economics

[PEN-L:8278] RE: Interest rates

1997-01-17 Thread Doug Henwood
At 3:08 PM 1/17/97, Paul Altesman wrote: But as Doug points out, one of the major changes of our times - in North America - is the breakdown of the arrangement that financial and industrial institutions would each stick to their historical sphere, limiting their struggle to the interface

[PEN-L:8276] Fwd: 15 arrested in ET (fwd)

1997-01-17 Thread D Shniad
From: (by way of Charles Scheiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thursday, January 16, 1997 12:59 pm EST JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) -- Fifteen people have been arrested in East Timor in connection with a violent uprising

[PEN-L:8277] Warning from George Soros

1997-01-17 Thread D Shniad
TOP CURRENCY TRADER PROCLAIMS DANGERS OF CAPITALISM NEW YORK -- When George Soros speaks, the world's markets listen. This time, though, they may not believe what they hear. Soros is proclaiming that capitalism and its system of speculative trading -- the same system that has brought him

[PEN-L:8275] Re: Minority Business Survey

1997-01-17 Thread Robert Cherry
Professor Wainwright's message reminds me of an interesting event at the ASSA meetings. At the same time as the CPI forum, there was one on affirmative action. It had a number of interesting aspects: 1. Richard Posner was pathetic at playing an economist. He was filled with economic

[PEN-L:8274] RE: Interest rates

1997-01-17 Thread Paul Altesman
At 06:26 PM 1/16/97 -0800, Doug Henwood wrote: At 6:05 PM 1/16/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: And to my mind the theory of interest rate determination is crucial to filling in that lacunae. OK, Tom - so what's the Dickens theory of interest rates? Doug I am sorry that this thread

[PEN-L:8273] Quote of the Day

1997-01-17 Thread HANLY
"Few exercises in social argument are so obviously in defence of financial self-interest as those brought forward by the rich against their taxes. It always boils down to the slightly improbably case that the rich are not working because they have too little income, the poor because they have too

[PEN-L:8272] Re: Apologies, again, for posting to the world

1997-01-17 Thread Laurence Shute
PEN-L, I did it again: posted to the world, being in a hurry. I apologize and will _really_ try to slow down. Larry Shute

[PEN-L:8271] Feds to kill Survey of Minority Businesses (fwd)

1997-01-17 Thread Nathan Newman
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:49:03 -0600 From: Jon Wainwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feds to kill Survey of Minority Businesses Dear Sir: I am a professional economist affiliated with the University of Texas at Austin. For the

[PEN-L:8270] Re: inflation deflation

1997-01-17 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Jim Devine wrote: How can Passell say such things?? I often read Passell's columns. He's simply a mouthpiece for a sub-set of mainstream economists. He quotes and promotes the work of dishonest scholars like Dale Jorgeson and his ilk. I had read the column referred to by Lynn Turgeon and

[PEN-L:8269] Re:

1997-01-17 Thread Laurence Shute
Dear Paul, Perhaps you didn't get my last message. I thought I was doing the one on John Maurice Clark (#83) and I also volunteered to do #75 on Social Control of Business since that dovetails with the Clark piece. In any case, I have been working on the Clark piece and would like to know

[PEN-L:8268] Oppose The Attacks Of The Brutal South Korean Regime On the Workers

1997-01-17 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Besides the draconian National Security Law, which makes it criminal to be a communist, engage in any activity deemed to be "pro-north", call for the reunification of Korea or have any contact with individuals or organizations in the north or deemed "pro-north", the latest law introduced by the

[PEN-L:8267] Multiple Choice Quiz

1997-01-17 Thread Tom Walker
1. Jack works 40 hours a week at a union job, where he earns a wage of $25 an hour and receives a package of fringe benefits (including paid time off) worth a total of $12 an hour. If Jack works two hour a week overtime, at time and a half, what is the approximate *ratio* of his net (after tax)

[PEN-L:8281] Re: On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I agree. Absolutely, but I wouldn't then want to go say this made finance epiphenomenal, or secondary, or parasitical, or euthanizable, or any of the other things that people sometimes say. Capitalist production is about the accumulation of money and the transformation of everything into

[PEN-L:8280] Re: On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Doug Henwood
At 6:04 PM 1/17/97, Michael Perelman wrote: I would go beyond what Doug says about the fuzzy boundary between finance and industry. Old time capitalists were more rooted in their industry. Today, everything is screened via ROI, everything is treated as if it is saleable, capable of being

[PEN-L:8271] Feds to kill Survey of Minority Businesses (fwd)

1997-01-17 Thread Nathan Newman
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:49:03 -0600 From: Jon Wainwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feds to kill Survey of Minority Businesses Dear Sir: I am a professional economist affiliated with the University of Texas at Austin. For the

[PEN-L:8273] Quote of the Day

1997-01-17 Thread HANLY
"Few exercises in social argument are so obviously in defence of financial self-interest as those brought forward by the rich against their taxes. It always boils down to the slightly improbably case that the rich are not working because they have too little income, the poor because they have too

[PEN-L:8270] Re: inflation deflation

1997-01-17 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Jim Devine wrote: How can Passell say such things?? I often read Passell's columns. He's simply a mouthpiece for a sub-set of mainstream economists. He quotes and promotes the work of dishonest scholars like Dale Jorgeson and his ilk. I had read the column referred to by Lynn Turgeon and

[PEN-L:8268] Oppose The Attacks Of The Brutal South Korean Regime On the Workers

1997-01-17 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Besides the draconian National Security Law, which makes it criminal to be a communist, engage in any activity deemed to be "pro-north", call for the reunification of Korea or have any contact with individuals or organizations in the north or deemed "pro-north", the latest law introduced by the

[PEN-L:8277] Warning from George Soros

1997-01-17 Thread D Shniad
TOP CURRENCY TRADER PROCLAIMS DANGERS OF CAPITALISM NEW YORK -- When George Soros speaks, the world's markets listen. This time, though, they may not believe what they hear. Soros is proclaiming that capitalism and its system of speculative trading -- the same system that has brought him

[PEN-L:8272] Re: Apologies, again, for posting to the world

1997-01-17 Thread Laurence Shute
PEN-L, I did it again: posted to the world, being in a hurry. I apologize and will _really_ try to slow down. Larry Shute

[PEN-L:8276] Fwd: 15 arrested in ET (fwd)

1997-01-17 Thread D Shniad
From: (by way of Charles Scheiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thursday, January 16, 1997 12:59 pm EST JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) -- Fifteen people have been arrested in East Timor in connection with a violent uprising

[PEN-L:8275] Re: Minority Business Survey

1997-01-17 Thread Robert Cherry
Professor Wainwright's message reminds me of an interesting event at the ASSA meetings. At the same time as the CPI forum, there was one on affirmative action. It had a number of interesting aspects: 1. Richard Posner was pathetic at playing an economist. He was filled with economic

[PEN-L:8279] On Interest Rates and Finance Capital

1997-01-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I would go beyond what Doug says about the fuzzy boundary between finance and industry. Old time capitalists were more rooted in their industry. Today, everything is screened via ROI, everything is treated as if it is saleable, capable of being securitized -- Michael Perelman Economics

[PEN-L:8274] RE: Interest rates

1997-01-17 Thread Paul Altesman
At 06:26 PM 1/16/97 -0800, Doug Henwood wrote: At 6:05 PM 1/16/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: And to my mind the theory of interest rate determination is crucial to filling in that lacunae. OK, Tom - so what's the Dickens theory of interest rates? Doug I am sorry that this thread

[PEN-L:8278] RE: Interest rates

1997-01-17 Thread Doug Henwood
At 3:08 PM 1/17/97, Paul Altesman wrote: But as Doug points out, one of the major changes of our times - in North America - is the breakdown of the arrangement that financial and industrial institutions would each stick to their historical sphere, limiting their struggle to the interface

[PEN-L:8267] Multiple Choice Quiz

1997-01-17 Thread Tom Walker
1. Jack works 40 hours a week at a union job, where he earns a wage of $25 an hour and receives a package of fringe benefits (including paid time off) worth a total of $12 an hour. If Jack works two hour a week overtime, at time and a half, what is the approximate *ratio* of his net (after tax)

[PEN-L:8269] Re:

1997-01-17 Thread Laurence Shute
Dear Paul, Perhaps you didn't get my last message. I thought I was doing the one on John Maurice Clark (#83) and I also volunteered to do #75 on Social Control of Business since that dovetails with the Clark piece. In any case, I have been working on the Clark piece and would like to know