[PEN-L:8634] Re: market socialism, planned socialism, ut

1997-02-16 Thread William S. Lear
On Sat, February 15, 1997 at 18:48:27 (PST) Max B. Sawicky writes: From: "William S. Lear" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] This is an entirely different question than that raised in the first paragraph above. Asking how attitudes would be were we to all begin "the quest for income from the

[PEN-L:8637] Re: market socialism, planned socialism

1997-02-16 Thread Tom Walker
Max Sawicky replied to my comments, and asked several questions (rhetorically, perhaps?), Perhaps because your erudition shields you from the ordinary concerns, values, and habits of most people? Maybe you need to phone home. Many apologies for my erudition. But I am already _at home_ in the

[PEN-L:8639] Re: market socialism, planned socialism

1997-02-16 Thread blairs
And what's your time horizon for "new-fangled"? Since the death of Christ? Mid 19th century for capitalist work discipline (see E.P. Thompson, "Time, Work-Discipline and Industrial Capitalism"). 1920s for consumer orientation (See Benjamin Hunnicutt, _Work without End_). But I guess from the

[PEN-L:8640] Internet Service Providers (fwd)

1997-02-16 Thread Michael Hoover
I forwarded some pen-l comments on AOL to a friend who has a small computer systems business...he sent back the below message...it is from a computer industry news service he subs to...Michael Forwarded message: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:43:29 -0800 From: Bob Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[PEN-L:8645] Re: FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-02-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Wow! All you need to to do increase productivity is to contract out. You can have the same sales for fewer employees. People pay for this sort of advise! Proof of rising U.S. productivity -- Want more evidence that U.S. productivity gains are badly understated? Than look at the growth

[PEN-L:8647] Re: FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-02-16 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:57 PM -0800 2/16/97, Michael Perelman wrote: Wow! All you need to to do increase productivity is to contract out. You can have the same sales for fewer employees. People pay for this sort of advise! Proof of rising U.S. productivity -- Want more evidence that U.S. productivity gains

[PEN-L:8646] UK Unemployment Statistics (fwd)

1997-02-16 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:05:00 GMT0 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Martin Spellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UK Unemployment Statistics Unemployment Statistics: Who believes the Government? by

[PEN-L:8644] Re: market socialism, planned socialism

1997-02-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:8639] Re: market socialism, planned socialism And what's your time horizon for "new-fangled"? Since the death of Christ? .. . . Even "since the death of Christ" is only 2000 years -- of 2 million years of human beings. This is

[PEN-L:8643] Re: market socialism, planned socialism

1997-02-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Walker) Subject: [PEN-L:8637] Re: market socialism, planned socialism Tom: I was a little snappier than I meant to be in my last reply. Sorry. . . . than one in twenty would see commodity production as odd. Probably no more than one in twenty

[PEN-L:8642] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-02-16 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: The Producer Price Index for Finished Goods declined 0.3 percent in January, seasonally adjusted. This followed increases of 0.6 percent in December and 0.2 percent in November The index for energy goods turned down after

[PEN-L:8641] Re: Your gender or culture determines your opinions

1997-02-16 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-02-15 09:06:43 EST, you write: man-hours sigh. they just don't get it. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:8638] Re: market socialism, planned socialism, ut

1997-02-16 Thread William S. Lear
On Sun, February 16, 1997 at 09:35:50 (-0800) Max B. Sawicky writes: think the left would either be for getting rid of lotteries altogether, or for leaving the winnings largely untouched (most Well that's not a very coherent position, is it? Perhaps I didn't state my priorities clearly:

[PEN-L:8636] Re: market socialism, planned socialism

1997-02-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Walker) Subject: [PEN-L:8633] Re: market socialism, planned socialism Max B. Sawicky wrote: ... If we all began the quest for income from the same starting point . . . Why is it that after reading just a few classics of sociology and

[PEN-L:8635] Re: market socialism, planned socialism, ut

1997-02-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: "William S. Lear" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:8634] Re: market socialism, planned socialism, ut On Sat, February 15, 1997 at 18:48:27 (PST) Max B. Sawicky writes: The idea was that the public is inclined to respond to fewer of the factors that make for