From: James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:9386] socio-economics?
there's some sort of distinction between "socio-economics" (Etzioni)
and social economics (the REVIEW OF SOCIAL ECONOMICS). To make
things worse, there are several flavors of institutional economics,
Okay. As a long time card carrying member of what is ostensibly a social
democratic party, I have got to get into the discussion about social
democracy.
Max says "The issue isn't whether I or anyone else 'likes' social democracy
or has faith in it or trusts anyone in particular. The issue
I saw in my local TV listings that PBS' Frontline will be running a
documentary on Mexico's Salinas brothers and the devastation they helped
wreak on their country. Check your local listings.
Sid Shniad
The Daily Telegraph Monday 7 April 1997
'INSANE NOTION' NOT SUCH A BAD IDEA NOW
By Robert Shrimsley, Chief Political Correspondent
"THE closest thing to legalised political corruption." This was how Tony Blair
described the British Telecom, Gas and British
At 11:32 AM 4/8/97 -0700, Sid wrote:
My
personal experience with social democracy is that there is a huge gulf
between the rank and file activists within social democracy and the full
time, bureaucratic careerists who tend to dominate the organization, its use
of resources and its overall
Well, I'm going to weigh in with my buddy Sid, especially
when he quotes Tony Benn.
There's a concrete example of what he's talking about here
in the US.
For years, Lane Kirkland (anyone remember him!) said that
labor needed to elect a democratic president with a democratic
congress and we
I wrote:
billion/yr. If European unions had put just 1% of their budgets into
funding + protecting their lighter-skinned brothers and sisters overseas,
pushing world-wide wages
Oops, make that darker-skinned. :)
Anders Schneiderman
Progressive Communications
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tony Wohlfarth, CAW - Canada" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Opposition to Maastricht Treaty Grows
Germany: SPD To Vote No on Maastricht If No EU Employment Policy
Berlin Die Welt (Internet version) in German 4 Apr 97
Report by Karl-Ludwig
Elaine Bernard wrote:
A major problem in this and every other country
is that the S.D. parties, that have much more
flexibility (not a pretty term) to abandone their
base and acquire a new one
There is something of a - and please forgive me for sounding like a
financial economist in service to
Doug Henwood wrote: (Hi Doug).
There is something of a - and please forgive me for sounding like a
financial economist in service to the rentier class - principal-agent
problem in SD leadership, and in union leadership too. At the top level,
people find it easy to get seduced into being the
Etzioni had a book in the early '80s on the need to reindustrialize America,
framed as a moral issue practically. it was not very progressive but not
reaganomics either. can't remember what his prescription was exactly.
the journal is actually called Review of Social Economy I think (or is this
At 11:42 AM 4/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
Jim writes:
A long time ago, someone (Gil Skillman, I believe) argued on pen-l that the
Sraffa system was simply a special case of the Arrow-Debreu general
equilibrium model.
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As a matter of fact, Gil had made this claim during a
Complements of Sid Shniad:
The Daily TelegraphMonday 7 April 1997
'INSANE NOTION' NOT SUCH A BAD IDEA NOW
By Robert Shrimsley, Chief Political Correspondent
"THE closest thing to legalised political corruption." This was how Tony Blair
described the British
Max, I guess some of the difference is over the
issue of the degree to which we need brokers who
are other than us. To use my favorite sexist
analogy "always a bridegroom but never a bride!"
That is, both the far left (Leninist) and the
center left (social democrats - only in America
do we refer
I'm sorry if the following repeats anything that Sid, Elaine,
Anders, and Louis said (not because they're wrong but because
repetition is boring). I'll limit my discussion to a small number of
points. Sorry if my missive is still too long.
At the risk of being seriously outgunned, I will try to reply to Sid,
Elaine, et al.
Sid asks if I can name examples of constructive intercession and
mediation by reformists. Note that 'mediation' here for me means
translating the power of mass movements into actual policy.
For some reason
Elaine Bernard wrote,
But we need to ROAR in the streets too!
"Let's boogie!" (a private joke for BCers)
Regards,
Tom Walker
^^
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There has never been a successful resolution of the tension between
reformist groups such the SP or CP, and smaller Trotskyist or Maoist groups
that are self-avowedly revolutionary. (You PEN-L folks should count your
blessings that you don't seem attract anybody from the latter camp).
In
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BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, APRIL 7, 1997
RELEASED TODAY: "News Advisory -- BLS to Issue Experimental CPI
Indexes on April 10" points out that BLS will begin regular
publication of an experimental CPI that uses a geometric mean instead
of an arithmetic mean formula to calculate price
there's some sort of distinction between "socio-economics" (Etzioni) and
social economics (the REVIEW OF SOCIAL ECONOMICS). To make things worse,
there are several flavors of institutional economics, which is very similar
to social economics. If any one knows what the differences are between
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