Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill
Murray !!! Bill Forwarded message follows - Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:28:32+0100 From: jurriaan bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL

Re: Big Brother: Bill 160 (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Rosenberg, Bill
Sorry folks - just forwarded Juriaan's message to the list rather than its intended recipient! Bill /-\ | Bill Rosenberg, Acting Director, Centre for Computing and Biometrics, | |P. O. Box 84, Lincoln

On the working poor/criminalization of poverty

1997-12-12 Thread Thomas Kruse
Killing of 4 Beggars Shocks Brazil New York Times, December 12, 1997 By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Four beggars sleeping under the awning of a furniture store were shot dead shortly before dawn here on Tuesday, in a killing that has shocked the country and raised memories of

Re: utopia and the state

1997-12-12 Thread Robin Hahnel
Dave Markland notes: The Parecon model "works" independantly of the state (if there is one) and independently of many aspects of society. Mix 'n match yer favorite political forms alongside a parecon. Here and now very little works independently of the state. I am not versed in

Re: utopias (II)

1997-12-12 Thread Robin Hahnel
James Devine wrote: 1) on "private" property's abolition: I think that the point of socialism is to replace "private" property with _responsibility_. "Private" property isn't really private: owning it gives one the right to impose a lot of costs on other people and on nature, power without

Re: utopias (II)

1997-12-12 Thread Max B. Sawicky
. . . Doesn't anyone know and good radical criminologists. We have a group of lawyers -- gasp -- in the AU law school who are radical law theorists. . . . I know a good liberal one, and he happens to be at AU. He's Jim Lynch, in the Soc dept. I think you'd like what he does. Cheers,

re: What Is to Be Done?

1997-12-12 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:52:32 -0500 (EST) Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Zarembka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:re: What Is to Be Done? On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Ricardo Duchesne wrote: No, What Is to Be Done? is

Re: What Is to Be Done?

1997-12-12 Thread Louis Proyect
I would add that, for Lenin, tiny, minute differences in strategy and tactics were always of fundamental significance, for he knew, unlike anyone else, in revolutionary situations such differences carry enormous implications. ricardo I have no idea what you mean by tiny and minute. Most of

Re: the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread Samuel G. Pooley
Readers might equivalently enjoy the recent Journal of Economic Literature (September 1997) article by Gary Miller (Washington University) on the superiority of economics to political science: "The impact of economics on contemporary political science." To summarize: If it can be derived by

HOW'S THIS FOR A GREAT IDEA!

1997-12-12 Thread valis
From: "Carl H.A. Dassbach" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcing an new e-list CM150-L Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:29:41 -0500 The purpose of CM150 is to acknowledge the 150th anniversary of the Communist Manifesto in 1998 (hence the title CM150-L), to discuss subjects

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Perhaps someone could download the WSJ editorial from a few days ago by Professor Meredith Cumings Woo of Northwestern University? Her analysis seems to differ from Amsden's in important ways; for example, she seems to be quite a bit more critical of the kind of state monopoly capitalism that

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: Perhaps someone could download the WSJ editorial from a few days ago by Professor Meredith Cumings Woo of Northwestern University? Her analysis seems to differ from Amsden's in important ways; for example, she seems to be quite a bit more critical of the kind of state

Re: the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread James Devine
wojtek sokolowski writes: Based on single exchange with an economists on what consitutes an 'explanation' in social science, I came to a conclusion that at least some American economists differ from sociologists quite significantly on that issue. For most sociologists, explanation is an empirical

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Doug Henwood wrote: I interviewed Amsden on my radio show yesterday... [text cut] Tapes: $5/program (plus appropriate foreign postage), below. I'm sometimes a little slow in fulfilling orders, but they'll get out. Sounds cool. One thought: why not branch out to broadcast

Re: Amsdem on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
Alice Amsden made an important contribution to the literature on development/South Korea. At the risk of oversimplifying that contribution it was to forcefully demonstrate that the state played a decisive role in the rapid growth and industrial transformation of South Korea. Her work challenged

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Dennis R Redmond wrote: Sounds cool. One thought: why not branch out to broadcast TV as well? Aren't there heaps of budding socialist videographers in the Big Apple, or is there any form of community/university TV you could hook up with? It couldn't be that expensive to do a basic talk-show kind

Re: Amsdem on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Marty wrote: And it is hard to see how greater freedom for domestic and foreign capital to move money and operations is going to promote a more domestically centered, nationally controlled, worker centered, stable economy. Do you mean by a "nationally controlled, worker centered,

Famous Reindeer Terminated! from DS

1997-12-12 Thread Michael Eisenscher
From: "Mary P. Saito" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Famous Reindeer Terminated! from DS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Famous Reindeer Terminated! Item Subject: Fwd: Urgent: Famous Reindeer Terminated! The holiday humor begins... The

Re: Amsdem on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread john gulick
What's your diagnosis of the recently-formed independent trade union-based political party in S. Korea ? (I forget its name or acronym). From what I understand it is pitching a cross-class appeal and is more or less social democratic in its platform. If the financial crisis spells crisis for each

Re: Amsdem on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
No, I did not meant a greater North Korea. North Korea is certainly not my model of socialism. But I do think a process of reunificaiton that is shaped by progressive forces looking for a way out of the crisis in both North and South could well open up possibilities for the creation of a

Intermediate Micro Text

1997-12-12 Thread Steven S. Zahniser
Dear PEN-Lers: I need to select an intermediate micro text with great alacrity. Can anyone suggest a sound text that includes some good topical materials? If you wish, you can reply privately and I will post a summary of the recommendations to the list. Steven Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JOE trivia

1997-12-12 Thread Steven S. Zahniser
Does anyone know why the Board of Regents of the State University of New York is under censure by the AAUP (see August 1977, pp. 237-60)? Steven Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote: We should take confidence from the South Korean experience that there are effective alternatives to the free market. But we should not be surprised to learn that state capitalist regulation of economic activity directed towards profit

Watergate -- the smoking gun?

1997-12-12 Thread Sid Shniad
C H R I S T O P H E R H I T C H E N S Dick the Greek THE NEWLY REVEALED NIXON TAPES MAY ANSWER THE ULTIMATE MYSTERY OF WATERGATE: WHAT WERE THE BURGLARS REALLY LOOKING FOR? The latest installment of Nixon White House tapes shows how right Bill Clinton was, in his lachrymose funeral

Australian government recruiting scabs for docks?

1997-12-12 Thread Sid Shniad
The Australian Associated Press Dec 10 1997 By Ilsa Colson and Maria Hawthorne MELBOURNE, - Claims that the Australian government knew of a plan to train recruits with military backgrounds in maritime work and use them to break waterfront union power continued

Re: the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread Tom Walker
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote, "can the fact that the train for Chicago departs five minutes before the train for Philadelphia be considerd as evidence that there is a causal connection between these two events?" Yes. The economists are on the train for Chicago and the lawyers are on the train for

Re: the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 10:21 AM 12/12/97 -0800, Jim Devine wrote: ... and of economists? For unclear reasons, I've had conversations with three of my Econ. Dept. colleagues (out of nine in the department), in which they've asserted that either economics or economists are superior to those of other social-science

Re: What Is to Be Done?

1997-12-12 Thread HANLY
On the topic of What is to be Done and dealing specifically with minute and tiny matters that really shouldn't be brought up on the list: What is to be Done to Unsub? Is the listerv a proletarianmajordomo or what. None of the modes of address I have tried seem to work. I suspect that the whole

MAI National Campaign (Canada) (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Sid Shniad
http://www.thestar.com/editorial/news/971211A07b_NA-INVEST11.html December 11, 1997 The Toronto Star Forty groups link up to battle global trade treaty Premiers will be asked to oppose agreement today By Laura Eggertson, Toronto Star Ottawa Bureau OTTAWA - More than 40

Re: the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread Ellen Dannin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, James Devine wrote: * * * Lately, I've been wondering about the social-psychological basis of these claims of "superiority." Why make this kind of outrageous claim at all? Is it because we're working at a liberal arts college and have to rub shoulders with all sorts of

Re: What Is to Be Done?

1997-12-12 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:00:33 -0500 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:What Is to Be Done? The differences between Luxemburg and Lenin over organizational questions were

the superiority of economics ...

1997-12-12 Thread James Devine
and of economists? For unclear reasons, I've had conversations with three of my Econ. Dept. colleagues (out of nine in the department), in which they've asserted that either economics or economists are superior to those of other social-science disciplines. One of these actually reads works

Amsdem on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Michael Perelman
I asked Amsden if she wanted to tell us anything about Korea. She is on sabbatical, so she just said to look at her op ed piece: Section A; Editorial Desk Behind Korea's Plunge By Alice H. Amsden and Yoon-Dae Euh 11/27/97 The New York Times Late Edition - Final Page 39, Column 1 c. 1997

Re: utopia and the state

1997-12-12 Thread Robin Hahnel
Dave Markland wrote: regarding the parecon model. It seems to me that Albert and Hahnel have simply thought through the process of democratizing an economy; the parecon model has several features which, though I suspect they would be unnecessary, are simply the logical way to organize a