At 05:31 PM 4/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
John, the Wall Street Journal article made the case that it is one of the
most studied issues in history. It also is dangerous in VERY small
amounts. Of course, more affluent people can drink bottled water, so the
benefits from cleaning up might not be
At 08:35 PM 4/20/2001 -0400, you wrote:
In other words, has anyone here done or seen a cost-benefit analysis of
this arsenic reduction?
Yeah, I did one. It costs the capitalist class to pay for devices that
block the spread of arsenic. It benefits working people if such devices are
A
In other words, I doubt that there are more than 2-3 people in the
world who wound deny
that having zero arsenic in water is a good thing
this issue (and those elided) were addressed in the article that was
posted from Rachel's
on-line environmental magazine.
I missed the article.
from SLATE: The NY [TIMES] ... [quotes an]anonymous Bush
official who commented, "We expected this. You can't have a trade summit these days
without tear gas; it would be like having a cheeseburger without cheese."
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Published on Saturday, April 21, 2001 in the Toronto Globe Mail
Even the Green Zone Wasn't a Safe Haven
by Naomi Klein
QUEBEC -- Where are you," I screamed from my cellphone into his. There was a pause
and then, "A Green Zone -- St. Jean and St. Claire."
Green Zone is protest speak for an area
into
a beige van and drove off. Several of the young
activists have open cuts where they were hit.
Three hours after Mr. Singh's arrest, there was
still no word of where he was being held.
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B,B/20010421/wk
lei?tf=RT/fullstory.htmlcf=RT/con
Much of the arsenic would have to be removed by the mining companies and
others that create the problem. It is very dangerous in small amounts.
Again, the WSJ article makes it seem like an airtight case.
Here is the article plus a more recent one
April 19, 2001
That arsenic is harmful to human health was never in dispute.
Rather, the main issue -- and the debate reopened by the Bush
administration -- concerns dosage: How much arsenic in water
does it take to give people cancer?
When I worked as a
It was Rachel's Health and Environment News #722 that most recently
addressed arsenic. It's currently online at
http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/index.cfm?St=1.
The EPA estimated that the annual cost of implementing a 10 ppb
standard would be $181 million. Considering the benefits, this is
For those interested in an empirical critique of static cost-benefit analysis
applied to industrial pollution, I recommend one of the last reports prepared
by the Office of Technology Assessment, before its elimination by congressional
republicans:
Gauging Control Technology and Regulatory
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Peter Dorman writes: cost projections based on existing technologies vastly overstate
the
actual ex post costs, due to inevitable technical innovation.
but don't new technologies have their own costs? -- Jim
Devine
True enough, but running a process that produces chemical X and then adding on an
abatement
process to remove it is generally more expensive than changing the process to not use
X in the
first place. Conventional CBA methodology does not consider the second option if
meaningful
innovation is
But how is the improved quality of life and longer life of those who no
longer get cancer factored in? And wouldn't there also be reduced medical
costs? Surely all this must be included in any reasonable CBA. Even if this
is done the result of the process will be mainly determined by who has the
Yes, I was only going after one issue in CBA. This is an area I've done a lot
of work in.
Peter
Ken Hanly wrote:
But how is the improved quality of life and longer life of those who no
longer get cancer factored in?
Wrote a book on that one...
And wouldn't there also be reduced medical
There is good coverage of the FTAA meeting and other issues at the new
website of the CCPA and Centre for Social Justice..
http://www.rabble.ca/
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Today, I saw a parent buying a Flower Power Barbie at the grocery store,
as a gift for a child's birthday party. Seeing the beads, bell-bottom
trousers, granny glasses, and peace patches caused a flash-back, plus an
inspiration for new toys that Matell can sell:
Summer of Love Barbie -- has
and of course the Klaus Barbie
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Subject: [PEN-L:10514] Barbie -- but not Klaus
Today, I saw a parent buying a Flower Power
sorry, I didn't complete my thought on the Klaus Barbie... aside from the
bad taste holocaust jokes, I was thinking more of Klaus(sp) von Bulowbut
have thought better of any further jokes, recalling my once coming across
the bronze plaque memorializing his contributions to the Newport RI
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