Doug Henwood wrote:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Nope.
Mark
Tim Bousquet writes:
I think the difference is that I don't get paid to
only sit around and think about it, and dream up
theories and so forth. I very much enjoy being a
lookie-loo on this list, but many of the arguments and
the things people find important simply escape me.
Maybe that reflects
The latest average of opinion polls in the British General Election places
the Labour Party 20% ahead of the Conservative Party, at 50% and 30%
respectively.
The Labour Party, under Blair, has occupied almost all the political
terrain, left, centre, and right.
It is not clear whether the
One of the use values in increasing demand with the rise of consumer
capitalism, is good health care.
The battle is on over the economics and management of this rising sector of
an economy.
In the UK there has been a retreat from a supposedly free market economy of
the USA. Now there is a
G'day all,
Another beaut month in the annals of competition. Today we lost our
third-biggest telecommunications company, leaving the original encumbent (the
half-privatised Telstra) about 6 times as big as its closest competitor
(Optus) after five years. We once had about forty telcos, but by
Chris Burford writes:
The two party system always has a danger for progressives of just tailing
behind the more progressive party. There is plenty that is reactionary in
the Labour Party, and its intention to serve the interests of finance
capital is clear. But at least it asks for some
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
Michael K.
The Thunderer thunders:
The document says that the move towards an independent
intelligence-gathering operation may be a serious test of the European
ambitions of the United Kingdom and of the EU's capacity for integration.
It adds: Intelligence gathering may be the issue which forces the United
How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
emphasizes that the truth as a static entity does not exist but is
rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
less) to align the mind, but that alignment will be more or less untrued
just as it
Carrol asks:
How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
emphasizes that the truth as a static entity does not exist but is
rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
less) to align the mind, but that alignment will be more or less untrued
The British - Reluctant Europeans
by Robert Worcester
MORI
The British: Reluctant Europeans was the title of an article I published
in 1989, I gave a speech on the same topic just last month to a City
audience gathered by Merrill Lynch, and it is the title of my essay today.
I hadn't thought
Penners
Splashed across the front page of yesterday's Guardian was a large article
warning of an impending military coup against Robert Mugabe, led by Air
Marshal Perence Shiri, who cleaned up Matabeleland during the 1980s.
Explicit links were made with Colin Powell's tour of Africa and
How could anyone with an ounce of intellegence not expect airlines and
telecommunications industries not coalesce into a small number (1?) of
corporations?
Rob Schaap wrote:
G'day all,
Another beaut month in the annals of competition. Today we lost our
third-biggest telecommunications
Comfortable with his highly fabricated argument that western
Europe could not expand its import of land-intensive goods from
eastern Europe, because there were crucial built-in limits to
eastern Europe's ability to absorb western imports due to its
limited market, Pomeranz moves on to the
Tim Bousquet writes:
I think the difference is that I don't get paid to
only sit around and think about it, and dream up
theories and so forth. I very much enjoy being a
lookie-loo on this list, but many of the arguments and
the things people find important simply escape me.
Maybe that reflects
At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
Michael K.
does it truly matter?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze will translate as The truth is the whole. I
am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MAY 29, 2001:
Two Federal Reserve Board economists say 2.7 percent, or 4 million
members, of the work force switched employers in an average month in 1999.
The study, by Bruce C. Fallick and Charles A. Fleischman, using data from
the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
P first examines how silver eased Europe's land constraints. He
agrees that silver and gold were insignificant sources of capital
accumulation, doing little for Europe's economic development -
does anyone out there still accept Hamilton's argument? His
emphasis is rather on the way silver
Well, according to Tim Horton's the hole is the Timbit.
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
Michael K.
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
Rob Schaap wrote:
G'day all,
Another beaut month in the annals of competition. Today we lost our
third-biggest telecommunications company, leaving the original encumbent (the
half-privatised Telstra) about 6 times as big as its closest competitor
(Optus) after five years. We once had about
Jim Devine wrote:
Tim Bousquet writes:
I think the difference is that I don't get paid to
only sit around and think about it, and dream up
theories and so forth. I very much enjoy being a
lookie-loo on this list, but many of the arguments and
the things people find important simply
Rob Schaap wrote:
G'day all,
Another beaut month in the annals of competition. Today we lost
our
third-biggest telecommunications company, leaving the original
encumbent (the
half-privatised Telstra) about 6 times as big as its closest
competitor
(Optus) after five years. We once
Keaney Michael wrote:
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
And of course Adorno said the whole is the false.
Doug
Tim Hortons is almost the whole truth of New Brunswick. Coming
back from Quebec City and its many unique small shops and
cafes, it is all the more depressing to face this Hegelian truth once
again.
Well, according to Tim Horton's the hole is the Timbit.
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran
Left Becomes Target at Colombian Universities
By Scott Wilson
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, May 30, 2001; Page A01
BARRANQUILLA, Colombia- Who is sitting next to me?
An abiding suspicion has infected the classrooms, corridors and
faculty lounges of the University of the Atlantic.
At 12:46 PM 5/30/01 -0400, you wrote:
Keaney Michael wrote:
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
And of course Adorno said the whole is the false.
I thought he said
Reform= Foreign Loans= Competition=Price Rises= Profits (or profits plus
bureaucrats lined pockets)
Cheers, Ken Hanly
MOSCOW, May 20 (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin's economic adviser
has critized plans to overhaul the country's giant electricity monopoly
UES, a key plank in overall
Doug Henwood wrote:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Almost always a bad thing, I should presume. The apparent evils of
non-competition are actually 'evils' in the balance of class forces --
the inability to exercise sufficient political control over
Ian Murray wrote:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Doug
Yes.
I'm afraid Ian came up with a far better answer than I gave.
Carrol
P.S. Or does his Yes refer to Doug's memory problems rather than to the
either/or?
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From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:12411] Re: Re: Re: Oz Competition update
Ian Murray wrote:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Doug
Michael Keaney:
does any of this make sense?
I find this sort of concrete detail helpful when it comes to seeing the
larger picture. A forensic look at the way the secret state works and how it
interfaces with publically-acknowledged discourses of power, is useful. When
invited to contemplate
I personally feel that Britons could have done without sugar in their
tea.But P goes to the other extreme as he sets out to measure
the exact ecological relief Britain obtained from sugar and timber.
He calculates the caloric contribution of sugar to Britain's diet at 14
percent, or possibly
Carrol Cox:
non-abstract would be extremely abstract. (Incidentally, an attempt to
understand Latin America through detailed studies of Latin America will
lead to similar absurdities.
Good point. What's even worse is studying the native language. It is very
likely that the most profound analysis
Here is a short review that I mentioned of J. Schwarz' Sudden Origins, a
very interesting book with a new perspective on evolution in the age of the
new hox genes. I cannot fully endorse this new theory in such a rapidly
changing field, but the book gives a good snapshot of a changing field,
I think it is gas.
Gene Coyloe
It was those beans again. Speaking of beans and inevitably of bean counting,
what seems important to me is the transition from a regime of calculation to
first a regime of automated calculation and ultimately to a regime where the
instruments of measurement
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Almost always a bad thing, I should presume. The apparent evils of
non-competition are actually 'evils' in the balance of class forces --
the inability to exercise sufficient political
The Laws and Legal System of a Free-Market Cuba: A Prospectus for
Business
Matias F. Travieso-Diaz
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ISBN: 1567200516
Publisher: Greenwood Publishing Group, Incorporated
Pub. Date: November 1996
ABOUT THIS ITEM
From the Publisher
The re-entry of foreign-based
Competition is like sex. Whether it is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing very much
depends on who, what, when, where and how.
Doug Henwood asked:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
In a message dated 5/30/2001 3:07:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't the point to have some of real effect on the
world, as opposed to being caught up in discussion
group with no apparent relevance?
=
This is the subject of a rather well-titled (and written)
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, MAY 30, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: In April, 223 metropolitan areas recorded unemployment
rates below the U.S. average (4.2 percent, not seasonally adjusted), while
99 areas registered higher rates, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported
today. Fourteen
Yeah, I'm with you on this. But it's a bit odd to see competition
implicitly praised on a Progressive Economists list.
Doug
Without competition (or without Kant's unsocial sociability) there
would have been no history, nothingness, and certainly no pen-l.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
Yeah, I'm with you on this. But it's a bit odd to see competition
implicitly praised on a Progressive Economists list.
Doug
Without competition (or without Kant's unsocial sociability) there
would have been no history, nothingness, and certainly no pen-l.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
Yeah, I'm with you on this. But it's a bit odd to see competition
implicitly praised on a Progressive Economists list.
Doug
Without competition (or without Kant's unsocial sociability) there
would have been no history, nothingness, and certainly no pen-l.
God,
I beg to differ. One of my favorite lines
in a movie by Jessica Tandy was,
When sex is right it can be wonderful;
but when it's wrong it can be wonderful too.
mbs
Competition is like sex. Whether it is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing very much
depends on who, what, when, where and how.
Tom
What is distinctly odd is the way in which monopoly is fostered in the name
of competition. Neo-liberalism thus heralds a magical transition from
monopoly to monopoly with the main difference that the metamorphosed
monopoly is relieved of its historically accumulated burden of
countervailing
Re-entry? Surely there has been considerable foreign investment in Cuba for
some time. Many of the resort hotels are foreign or jointly owned are they
not?. Sherrit-Gordon has extensive mining investments. In fact some time
back they had a board meeting in Cuba to thumb their noses at the US as I
Ah, Max, you are confusing good and bad with right and wrong.
Max Sawicky wrote,
I beg to differ. One of my favorite lines
in a movie by Jessica Tandy was,
When sex is right it can be wonderful;
but when it's wrong it can be wonderful too.
mbs
Competition is like sex. Whether it is a Good
Clarification
That is to say, that utility and morality BOTH depend on who, what, where,
when and how but not necessarily the same who, what, where, when or how.
Ah, Max, you are confusing good and bad with right and wrong.
Max Sawicky wrote,
I beg to differ. One of my favorite lines
in a
Carrol Cox:
non-abstract would be extremely abstract. (Incidentally, an attempt to
understand Latin America through detailed studies of Latin America will
lead to similar absurdities.
Good point. What's even worse is studying the native language. It is very
likely that the most profound analysis
more specifically addressing Yoshie's previous point, the rise of tourism
and foreign investment in Cuba has encouraged the rise of the dollarized
sector, which has encouraged a rise in economic inequality within Cuba.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
Dollarization of Cuban economy would be an interesting important
topic for dependency theorists to analyze.
Yoshie
There ain't no dependency theorists anymore. They all became world systems
theorists. Anyhoo, if you wanna understand Cuba, read Lenin on the NEP. But
only in the original
Tom wrote:
What is distinctly odd is the way in which monopoly is fostered in the name
of competition.
I'm not sure it's all that odd. Monopoly capital is able to wipe out,
first off, smaller less competitive capitals by virture of its greater use
of the division of labor and use of price
Stephen E Philion wrote:
Capitalist monopolies are also very able to chew apart
state owned monopolies because the latter are not as competitive in
capitalist markets.
By not competitive, do you mean that state-owned monopolies must meet other
criteria than profit -- that they have to
In Ellen Meiksins Wood's defense of the Brenner thesis over the past
several years, you can lose track of the issues that made it so
controversial in the first place. This was not simply an analysis of how
capitalism began, it was also an intervention into the debate around
development strategy
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Carrol Cox:
non-abstract would be extremely abstract. (Incidentally, an attempt to
understand Latin America through detailed studies of Latin America will
lead to similar absurdities.
Good point. What's even worse is studying the native language.
As a matter of
Dollarization of Cuban economy would be an interesting important
topic for dependency theorists to analyze.
Yoshie
There ain't no dependency theorists anymore. They all became world systems
theorists. Anyhoo, if you wanna understand Cuba, read Lenin on the NEP. But
only in the original
fyi
There was a Post article this a.m. about one Michael Wolff,
a columnist for New York Magazine, which mentioned a
column he did on PK. It was sufficiently interesting
to prompt me to check it out. Wolff goes under the
category of media critic and seems to be an exceptionally
skilled and
I suspect that dollarization of Cuba represents a much greater threat than
the Miami Cubans. When I went to Cuba on a tour led by Jim Devine, I was
struck by the solidarity of the people that I met -- a sense of shared
hardship -- even though the times were much easier then.
I would think that
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Michael Perelman wrote:
Stephen E Philion wrote:
Capitalist monopolies are also very able to chew apart
state owned monopolies because the latter are not as competitive in
capitalist markets.
By not competitive, do you mean that state-owned monopolies must meet
Lou wrote:
From the standpoint of class relations, contemporary South Africa and
colonial Spain have much in common. Capitalism is not about advanced
technology. Until relatively recent times, a miner worked with a pick and
a shovel. Nor is capitalism about freedom. It is about producing surplus
Somehow Wolff doesn't quite get the message about the arrogance of
professional economics. He sees it as a personal trait of PK (and the
guy does have a sharp prickly streak), but he doesn't recognize the
general disdain of most professional economists for what they see as the
naive and
Tom Walker wrote:
Competition is like sex. Whether it is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing
very much depends on who, what, when, where and how.
Doug Henwood asked:
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
Well, if we're going
So, at the point where you earn enough life income to stop working and live
off investments then you move out of the working class. I assume you don't
mean the elderly who have only social security or social security and a
pension?
For the kind of 'front porch party' you talk about, this is
I don't understand your comments Marta. I said I didn't have a clear
definition of what was working class and asked Max what his definition is. So,
I'll ask you too. What would your definition of working class be? maggie
coleman
Marta Russell wrote:
And what about those who want to be
I keep forgetting - is competition a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?
I'm with Mark. The answer is nope. Competition is a tendency to monopoly via
a series of traumatic consolidations. Especially in telecom. Competition
just is. Once (1990) it wasn't. And one day, in these cases in particular,
Jim Devine wrote:
At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
Jim Devine writes:
As Baran Sweezy quote Hegel to say, the truth is the whole.
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read the true is the
whole.
Michael K.
does it truly matter?
And if the whole (the
Ghana's hydro-class struggles
ACCRA -- Notwithstanding the horrific
soccer stadium disaster in which at least 165
people were killed in a police-incited
stampede on May 9, the past week offered
signs of genuine hope in Ghana.
I've been privileged to witness a careful
regrouping
The question of water seems to be crucial. The Sacramento Bee had a
recent article about Boone Pickens trying to sell Texas water. In
Texas, you own water like you own oil. You can pump all you want from
wherever you are. A sure recipe for depleting reservoirs.
Tim wrote about the
I appreciate Lou's comments on the Brenner thesis, which confirm my
suspicion, stated earlier, that his own concern is less about capitalism's
past than imperialism's present: Lou is really mainly concerned to attack
the late Bill Warren's claim that capitalist development is good for the
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Justin Schwartz wrote:
Lou repeats his criticism of Brenner, that Brenner's insistence on the
importance of free labor in the early development of capitalism is bourgeois
ideology, because the newly dispossessed proletarit was made free of means
of subsistance, and not
The third way means that social democracy does the dirty work that used to
be done by the right..
Cheers, Ken Hanly
The Guardian
May 24, 2001
TUC fears for public services
By Patrick Wintour, chief political correspondent
Tony Blair was last night facing the first sign of a
The Los Angeles Times
May 18, 2001
PUC Chief Alleges Plot to Raise Prices
Cites evidence that plants were shut down to create 'artificial
shortages.'
by Rich Connell and Robert Lopez
State investigators have uncovered evidence that a cartel of power
companies shut down
it's a very shallow article, all about style and nothing about substance.
At 06:49 PM 05/30/2001 +0100, you wrote:
fyi
There was a Post article this a.m. about one Michael Wolff,
a columnist for New York Magazine, which mentioned a
column he did on PK. It was sufficiently interesting
to prompt
The Guardian (London and Manchester) May 25, 2001
Why I'm voting for the Socialist Alliance
This is an electoral alternative for Labour
people who have had enough
By Paul Foot
It is not every day that I subscribe to the thoughts of Paddy Ashdown, but
Steve writes:
Right, if you go back to Wood's devestating critique of analytical marxism
(AM, is it worth the candle? or some such title) in NLR
about 15 years ago, she makes that point very clearly. She does the same
in her recent writings too, especially in her essay on capitalist markets
as
Having been scorched as a New Ager, I would inject a perspective nonetheless
along those lines. Press the delete button, if you prefer. Thinking about
Blaut's book I was reminded of the deep confusion over Eurocentric issues now
engulging globalization, it would seem, with total incomprehension
I disagree. Discussion of style is not
necessarily shallow. It's about Krugman's
conflicted mind re: celebrification and public
opinion. It is not about IS-LM or 'rules vs.
discretion.' If you get close to the loony
machinery that conveys your utterances to
millions of ears and eyeballs, you
From: Keaney Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:37:38 +0300
Splashed across the front page of yesterday's Guardian was a large article
warning of an impending military coup against Robert Mugabe, led by Air
Marshal Perence Shiri, who cleaned up Matabeleland
At 29/05/01 08:57 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Chris Burford:
But Louis Proyect's post is more than a critique of a recent melodramatic
film. He is using it to argue his consistent case that any compromise
internationally with some imperialist powers at the time of the Second
World War, was
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