Rising stock market redistributes wealth?

2002-08-15 Thread Bill Lear
In the Dean Baker's Economic Reporting Review of July 22, 2002, he makes the following claim: A rising stock market is primarily a redistribution from people who own little or no stock, who are mostly middle income and poor, to people who own a great deal of stock, who

RE: Rising stock market redistributes wealth?

2002-08-15 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29447] Rising stock market redistributes wealth? I wondered about that sentence in Dean's ERR. There are two major cases: if the stock market is rising because of rising earnings, that would represent the effects of redistribution -- either from workers or from

Re: RE: Rising stock market redistributes wealth?

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Perelman
I would suggest that redistribution is real. The fictitious capital associated with capital gains through the wealth effect bids up the cost of goods such as housing. That asset bubble also has real consequences for renters who get displaced. On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:34:37AM -0700, Devine,

Re: underemployment

2002-08-15 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote, ... It's bad for the left for there to be a bunch of disaffected educated people who can't get decent jobs who join the obscurantist right. Maybe we can draw them into our camp, but in order to do so, we have to pay attention to them. ... we need to increase the demand

Noam Chomsky and his critics

2002-08-15 Thread Louis Proyect
In the aftermath of September 11th, certain sectors of the US left buckled under ruling class pressure and turned against Noam Chomsky. His uncompromising anti-imperialism might have been acceptable during the 1980s when the Sandinistas were under Washington's gun, but in today's repressive

Re: RE: Rising stock market redistributes wealth?

2002-08-15 Thread Nomiprins
In a message dated 8/15/2002 10:41:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Redistribution might happen if a company pushes up its stock prices by pushing its employees or their pension funds to buy the stock, while the CEO and other insiders are selling stock. Millions of

GM superweeds

2002-08-15 Thread Carl Remick
Scientists shocked at GM gene transfer Paul Brown, environment correspondent Thursday August 15, 2002 The Guardian Weeds have become stronger and fitter by cross-breeding with genetically modified crops, leading to fears that superweeds which are difficult or impossible to control may invade

RE: Noam Chomsky and his critics

2002-08-15 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29451] Noam Chomsky and his critics It's about time that I faced an easy choice, choosing between Chomsky Hitchens. Among other things, the latter is often incoherent. As someone said, when Hitchens hears the word fascist, he drops all of his socialist leanings and rushes

Re: Re: American anti-terrorist drive targets Filipino Communists

2002-08-15 Thread ScottH9999
In a message dated 8/14/02 9:03:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard nothing about this particular case. I wonder how common it is. The main focus of the U.S. war on terrorism remains on radical Islam, but it has already shown several signs of being expanded

RE: Re: underemployment

2002-08-15 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29450] Re: underemployment I wrote: ... It's bad for the left for there to be a bunch of disaffected educated people who can't get decent jobs who join the obscurantist right. Maybe we can draw them into our camp, but in order to do so, we have to pay attention to

Of mice and men...

2002-08-15 Thread ken hanly
Pig, goat sperm produced by mice By ANNE MCILROY SCIENCE REPORTER From the Globe and Mail...cheers, Ken Hanly Thursday, August 15, 2002 - Page A7 Researchers have succeeded in getting mice to produce healthy pig and goat sperm, and they say they soon may get the rodents to churn out

Stiglitz questions

2002-08-15 Thread Doug Henwood
I'm interviewing Joseph Stiglitz on my radio show in about 2 hours (assuming he shows up). Anyone have any questions for him? I'll be in email range only until about 4:15 NYC time, when I leave for the studio. Anyone wanting to listen (assuming he shows up): WBAI, 99.5 FM New York and

Re: RE: Re: underemployment

2002-08-15 Thread Carrol Cox
Devine, James wrote: What does it mean to increase the demand for educated people? How does one do that? If educated people are defined as having exalted credentials, it's obvious that raising the demand for them involves more government efforts to do research on science and the

DC Sept 25-29th WB/IMF Actions! QUARANTINE corporate greed!

2002-08-15 Thread rickling
please circulate widely Call to Action! September 25th - 29th in Washington, DC STOP Infectious Corporate Greed! CONFRONT Corporate Evil-doers at their CEO Summit! QUARANTINE the World Bank and IMF on Saturday, September 28th Get Plugged-in at www.globalizethis.com or call 202-452-5912

FW: Please check this out... under god

2002-08-15 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: Please check this out... under god USA Today is taking a vote on whether the words Under God should be removed from the pledge of allegiance. You can vote by going to the following web site: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm Thanks and please...

The Greedy Bunch

2002-08-15 Thread pms
http://www.fortune.com/insiders/companies.html

Re: Stiglitz questions

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Doug Henwood wrote: I'm interviewing Joseph Stiglitz on my radio show in about 2 hours (assuming he shows up). Anyone have any questions for him? I'll be in email range only until about 4:15 NYC time, when I leave for the studio. Damn, I had a good question, but I was

re:Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons

2002-08-15 Thread Hari Kumar
A very useful review of some more recent stuff on Chomsky than in the biographies. There is in my view, no doubt that Chomsky is a remarkable and brave and decent person. Moreover - undoubtedly he has done a huge amount to galvanise the progressives around - let us use the term given - the

RE: re:Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons

2002-08-15 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29465] re:Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons Hari Kumar writes: 1) JD thinks the choice is between Hitchens Chomsky. I doubt that. What to say of Hitchens - though his Kissinger is pretty good isn't it? Just because I would choose Chomsky over Hitchens in a

Re: re:Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons

2002-08-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Hari Kumar wrote: I find this emblematic of a strange ambivalence towards the organised left movement that is discerned in the refusal to entertain party building. Please--I have written tens of thousands of words on party-building. I am not sure how old you are, Hari, but you seem to be

yet another market slumps

2002-08-15 Thread Ian Murray
International Arms Sales Drop By Barry Schweid AP Diplomatic Writer Thursday, August 15, 2002; 3:38 PM WASHINGTON -- International arms sales declined substantially last year to almost $26.4 billion compared with about $40 billion in 2000. It was the first decrease since 1997. The United

Re: Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons

2002-08-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
2) Although Chomsky talks to 'activists' - it is interesting that virtually all his venues are in that very base that he claims as the refugee of any (??) thought/thinking- the University. How has Chomsky connected to those that will make the revolution beyond the 'activists' - but the working

Malaysian courts order illegal immigrants to be whipped

2002-08-15 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Times of India SUNDAY, AUGUST 11, 2002 Malaysian courts order illegal immigrants to be whipped AP KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian courts for the first time ordered seven foreigners to be whipped and imprisoned for entering the country without valid papers under tough new laws against illegal

Re: Re: Re: American anti-terrorist drive targets Filipino Communists

2002-08-15 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Scott Harrison wrote: There are still Marxist revolutionaries in this world, and in fact growing numbers of them in some areas--especially south Asia Growing number in South Asia as a whole? You mean Nepal, I presume. Ulhas

From Hyperbolic Comparisons to Haughty Patronisation

2002-08-15 Thread Hari Kumar
Louis wrote: Please--I have written tens of thousands of words on party-building. I am not sure how old you are, Hari, but you seem to be rather unaware of the tremendous crisis and implosion of Marxist-Leninist groups in the 1970s and 80s. It is too bad that you unsubbed from Marxmail today.

iraq

2002-08-15 Thread Ian Murray
US adviser warns of Armageddon Julian Borger in Washington and Richard Norton-Taylor Friday August 16, 2002 The Guardian One of the Republican party's most respected foreign policy gurus yesterday appealed for President Bush to halt his plans to invade Iraq, warning of an Armageddon in the

Re: Re: re:Noam Chomsky and Hyperbolic comparisons

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Perelman
try not to make it personal. On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:11:36PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: Hari Kumar wrote: I find this emblematic of a strange ambivalence towards the organised left movement that is discerned in the refusal to entertain party building. Please--I have written tens of

Following Proyect Yoshie: Who Make the revolution?

2002-08-15 Thread Hari Kumar
Now that the anti-patronising is dealt with: The substantive issue is highlighted by Yoshie's reply. Thanks for that Y. This view of Louis' - I interpret to be a variant of defeatism. It gets to asking of course, who is the 'leading class' of a revolution? Some will not like even that

Re: From Hyperbolic Comparisons to Haughty Patronisation

2002-08-15 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Hari Kumar wrote: Dear Louis, don't patronise. Indian CPs have 1 million party members, but on Left-wing mailing lists I have been subjected to lectures on party building, stagism, Marx's letter to Zasulikh, Marx on India, Vasco de gama etc etc. ! :-) Ulhas

Re: Following Proyect Yoshie: Who Make the revolution?

2002-08-15 Thread Carrol Cox
Hari Kumar wrote: . The students in biology medicine that I teach now - sure as hell don't come from any manual working class family that I have recognised. With ONE exception - the Punjabi immigrants whose parents are farmers. So - who makes the revolution? Manual working class

Re: Following Proyect Yoshie: Who Make the revolution?

2002-08-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/15/02 7:24:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that the anti-patronizing is dealt with: The substantive issue is highlighted by Yoshie's reply. Thanks for that Y. This view of Louis' - I interpret to be a variant of defeatism. It gets to asking of

Re: Malaysian courts order illegal immigrants to be whipped

2002-08-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/15/02 5:46:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian courts for the first time ordered seven foreigners to be whipped and imprisoned for entering the country without valid papers under tough new laws against illegal immigrants, court