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the public. Private institutions like the church, various charities and
social agencies would take over some of the social function of the
state.
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> the only economically relevant incentives are to work hard. They forget the
> other thind is no less important. That was Hayek&
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> health care system that is not socialized. It does not follow that everything
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Louise Arbour has close connections to the ruling liberal party, and is
widely touted a forecoming appointee to the supreme court of canada.
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Any of the Canadians on Pen-L want to enlighten us about Louise Arbour.
There is an interesting Canadia
This makes me think that the so-called globalization may be simply a
reorganization and a tighter integration of the all-ready industrialized
countries. Sure there has been some spill over into Mexico, but is it enough
to make much of a difference? Any one done any work on this?
Rod
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policy. The scuttlebutt is that currencies in
continental Europe were hostage to the Bundesbank, even before
the establishment of the Euro.
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It is not unusual that the Toronto Sun be inaccurate. It is a right wing
tabloid, that thinks public highways are a communist plot.
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principles and common sense.
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I found the following headline at the ABC News site.
Keeping Schools Safe
Using Military Strategy to Defend Schools
The article is irrelevant after a headline like that. Is this the same
military that took a week to defeat seven Grenadine policeman and one Cuban
engineer?
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in similar fashion, I'm told, took classicial
economics to some (horrifically) logical conculsions. Anyone know about
that piece? is it "out there" in cyber spaces somehwere?
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uddites:
> > Approximate dates during which they were active.
> >
> > I already have my "position" on their movement which is considerably
> > more positive than standard mainstream OR "left" positions. I just want
> > to locate them in the righ
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the Luddites were active exactly within the French Revolution/Napoleon
period, that is between 1785-1812. After the defeat of Napoleon I they mor
or less gradually ceased all existence.
There is a very good book written by a couple of italian authors, which
gets rid of all co
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It appears that the debate on the bombing of the chinese embassey comes down
to two positions.
1. they were stupid.
2. they were crazy.
The evidence and past experience could support either hypothesis.
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slav troops to leave
Kosovo and be replaced by an armed international force. U.S. Deputy
Secretary of State Strobe Talbott is to fly to Moscow next week to start
talks on details of a peace plan.
A Reuters news team that went to Nis saw three bloody corpses in a street
covered with debris. On
I have a request for all US subscribers on behalf of those outside of the
US. Could you please give the full name of the numerous government agencies
at least once per post. It is difficult to follow discussion about EPA, IPA,
XYZ, etc. if you don't know what the initials mean.
Ro
n interest that
the vast majority have in ending capitalist exploitation.
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he former, it may play a mixed, good and bad , role in the
proletarian revolution. A concrete example of a progressive national
liberation movement was that in Viet Nam, which was important in defeating
U.S. imperialism.
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Workers of the World, Unite.
Workers of the West, it'
As one who is old enough to have been active politically at the time, I can
confirm Max's version. Take a look at the many left newspapers that were
being produced at that time. The connection was made and the criticism of
the main stream press for ignoring Jackson was prominent.
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I'd have to disagree with the view of Hegel expressed above. On the
question of freedom, Hegel (in his _The Philosophy of History_) had this to
say:
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at the AEA mark some kind of turning point?
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us for twenty years. Have they engendered
any discernible trends in social evolution?
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es is just as pervasive, just as dangerous, as it was a
generation ago. Nowadays we seem to have a lot of racism but very few
racists. How do you explain this paradox?
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analysis to show the immorality of some market outcomes.
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cal inequalities are
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This is garbage, Henry, no one on this list denied that these are examples
of racism.
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I posted information, as other also did, about two Napalese Gurkhas blown to
pieces in Kosovo under
onomics" (from Samuelson to Sen)
from the "liberal political world-view" (as seen in Clinton's and
Friedman's work). The former is infused with the latter ideology, so that
they are hard to separate in practice, but they are not the same.
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Even if it is a "Western value".
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h
t all bourgeois with
bourgeois rhetorical intention, there are techniques that can be separated
out from the overall paradigm and used in socialist construction; that was
what I have been doing all along, getting a position of influence and
separating out the useful from the non-useful to arm the worki
So Brad is not only a racist, and a careerist, he is also out of shape.
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l morally
and
humanly equal. The more technically or culturally advanced people are
different
but not better than their less developed counterparts.
Fritsgerald: "Rich people are different."
Hemmingeay: " Yes, they have more money."
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hile grad students and why
are they still uncritically operating within its confines? Answer:
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didn't.
So-called "people of colour" can not read minds any better than others. The
crime must be in the actions not in the supposed intentions, or attitude.
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and the Heroic in
History.
If your undying faith is not shared, perhaps you should rethink it rather
that denouncing the heretics and naming the sinners. I have always preferred
reason to proclamations of faith (but that is of course an enlightenment
idea that is out of favour today).
e background who see all this crap about "our
glorious leader" as being as ridiculous as it appears to western eyes. And
it is not socialist no matter what language it is in.
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of having a single corporate HQ in NY or Chicago or whatever, for example,
most big companies now have several, distributed in small towns all over
the country.
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t the future of urban patterns, it
was very clear that LA would be the model of the future for most of
America's metropolitan areas. We used to give lectures nationwide with
the message: "Don't bother coming to LA, LA will come to you."
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to job security, tenure, etc.), so that workers bear more and more of the
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g that can
only be judged in a longer time frame.
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be diverted to 19th century
> anarchist views, as if it is really just a literary or historical
> curiosity. Indeed as if the matter is subject merely for academic curiosity.
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> Sorry if I didn't get the joke, but it is an odd subject to joke about.
>
> Perhaps with the colle
strict neo-classicals.
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t preclude making tactical alliances with politicians. (Is
Bradley really more left that Gore?)
Or when faced with counterattack, pointing out how a rich society can easily
pay for these programmes. Perhaps even constructing an alternative budget.
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for the overall economy.
9. labour market institutions are usually handled separately from other
market institutions.
In the macro section, something similar would be done, for financial
institutions, government regulatory bodies, etc.
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Maybe, but I don't know how? Anyone do this in HTML?
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Michael Perelman wrote:
> I was wondering if you could set it up so that people could make additions to
> the outline -- sort of like a bulletin board. Is that possible?
>
> Rod Hay wrote:
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If we have a site where anyone can log in and amend the outline. We will
soon end up with a unrecognizable hodgepodge. I say we go with the one
we have now. Appoint an editorial committee. Have that committee approve
changes. Assign sections to volunteers and proceed from there.
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ve to worry about
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Paul's comment points out that we have to distinguish between a
production institution and an allocation institution. It is important to
distinguish because large corporations do both, huge amounts of
resources are allocated internally, without using a market.
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enough to see the Jefferson Davis' highways and
the confederate statues, but the political climate has changed in the US
since they were constructed. Already the governor of Virginia is
backtracking.
Rod Hay
Doug Henwood wrote:
> Rod Hay wrote:
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> >What is with the US. A con
If Patrick is still on the list, could he gives us a first hand account
of what is happening in Zimbabwe?
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n not "identify" masculine behavior by looking at the presence or
> > absence of reproductive organs..
> >
> > I think the research is biased for the reasons I mentioned below. It does
> > not consider the social factors other than the "family"!
> >
g run.
Intellectual property laws cannot be inforced, and are incompatible with digital
technology.
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Charles Brown wrote:
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> "Technology always ends up putting some other industry 'out of
> busi
For a little fun, I suggest that you check out:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/17/game/
The ultimate in role playing games.
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with her.
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ion is the distinction between
> >"gender" and "sex." The way I try to deal with these terms is to see
> >"sex" in biological terms
>
> You're lucky I'll spare you a long quotation from Judith Butler on
> how "sex" and the "biolo
make ideas. Thus an idealist world. Plato's universals may have
real manifestations, but he was still an idealist.
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owers that those who know what is good for everyone
> else have the right to reconstruct the deceived "masses". Che
> called this reconstructed self the "new man". But if Hegel was
> right, modern humans will never tolerate any such constructions
> except unde
on more or less matched with those.
I take it from the context that it is meant as a dismissive word.
Someone who is an "essentialist" is not worth further consideration, but
I cannot deduce the meaning intended.
Please enlighten
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I read it. And if it says anything that agrees with what I said, it is
lost in the jargon. The direction of causation is from ideas to ideas.
Nothing else is mentioned.
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Doug Henwood wrote:
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> >No idea is totally socially constructed (unless the thinker is
&
can be re-constructed, which was taken to mean
> > by many followers that those who know what is good for everyone
> > else have the right to reconstruct the deceived "masses". Che
> > called this reconstructed self the "new man". But if Hegel was
> > right, modern humans will never tolerate any such constructions
> > except under terms which they have set for themselves (in a
> > democratic setting).
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and women may be biologically different but not unequal!!!). so she
> > effectively perpetuates the sexist biological discourses.. Piercy is also
> > naive to expect technology to liberate women or socialize men into
> > feminine practices.
> >
> > We (socialist feminists
t; self-determination from Kant and Hegel.
>
> in the process transforming its meaning and, as Habermas would
> say, reducing it to "techne", and though there is a critical reflective
> aspect to Marx, it is still strictly in terms of class consciousness.
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at the actual outcome in light of the vision/
> (forecast) was pathetic.
> Barkley Rosser
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Interesting musings Carrol, but words have meanings, and what most people mean by
the word socialism is not what was seen in the USSR. You can call it what you want,
but I don't call it socialism.
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Carrol Cox wrote:
> Rod Hay wrote:
>
> > Perhaps Marx was utopian. But we
;it what you want, but I don't call it socialism.
>
> Rod
>
> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> > Rod Hay wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps Marx was utopian. But we will have to wait until we have a socialists
> > > society, in order to find out. The Soviet Union called
in ended up with a view
> that finds support in Anti-Duhring, but so does, say, Fromm - and those two
> chaps would've agreed on bugger-all.
>
> Cheers,
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No Barkeley just a silly answer to a silly question. But I have read enough,
that anything radically new would surprise me.
Rod
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> "Everything"? Really? Ponomaesh Russki yazik?
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The Japanese domestic market is stagnant. But many of the large firms used their
earnings to buy up asset around the world. The firms themselves might be able to
ride out the downswing on foreign earnings.
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> CB: This is essentially the same argument that Karl Marx critiques in _Value, Price
>and Profit_ , just in case Krugman thinks we forgot. Wages can go up without
>lessening jobs , if profits go down.
>
> CB
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survived the collapse of the
> Berlin wall and are finding ways to use the internet. To some extent they
> will increasingly have to compete among themselves for their relevance in
> solving the problems of current practice.
>
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es to gender
> issues? just crucious to know...
>
> Mine
>
> Jim Devine wrote:
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> >I
> >know that religious folks do a lot of good work
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o any topic on this list is.
>
> In so far as I can understand it, I think I agree with the post. This is
> interesting
> because I consider Ted's ideas on psychology not so much wrong as not
> worth discussing. I wonder if we can find a common ground which will
> enable us to sta
Please explain. This is new to me, unless you mean something other than what I
would by the word 'patents'
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and ideal nature of human beings. And the relation of the individual to
society. The theoretical-practical dialectic operates in the second but
it is not independent of the first. The ideal nature of human kind, is
partially the product and the producer of both theory and practice.
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ere a monopoly capitalism?
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> Mine Aysen D
sm is the starting point of the
analysis. For Hegel it was the idea, although if you read many passages of his
work, it would appear that the material is the determining moment.
Rod
Ted Winslow wrote:
> Rod Hay wrote:
>
> > Second, it not an unusual position in twentieth century
x27;m getting old enough to make going back to my dissertation
> bibliography nostalgic. Louis- wasn't this what you were also doing once at
> the Graduate Faculty of the New School??
>
> My question is: does anyone know of any work that attempts to relate Marx to
> Hartshorne?
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the Human Genome Project, a $ 3
> billion government research project designed to identify 100,000 human genes.
>
> But the proposed gathering has come under fire for seeming to dismiss an
> entire body of research that says that criminal behavior has its roots in
> personality and soc
good or ill.
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enought).
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Michael has urged looking at the Greek meaning of economic to understand the meaning of
political economy. We should also look at the Greek root of politics. It derives from
polis. And doesn't necessarily carry the meanings inherent in the modern word
political.
Rod
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; color and your point seems just plain Eurocentric to others. Which comes
> first, light or dark in skin? What about a Baboon's blue ass, why aren't
> humans blue skinned, since they are our relatives too. And your point is
> just how you insert yourself into this argument whe
It gets pretty tedious reading "cultural critiques of science" by people
who know nothing about science. The point of the rhetoric usually boils
down to the profound insight that scientists are people and as such are
influenced as others are by there social surroundings.
Rod
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Richard Lewontin and Stephan Gould are "scientists" in case you don't
> knowand your science (socio-biology) is a "flat earth science"!
>
> Mine
>
> >It gets pretty tedious reading "cultural critiques of science" by people
> >who know
and Ethiopians to
be black. I haven't been able to figure it out, but that is what it said.
Rod Hay
Louis Proyect wrote:
> >> the east African coast, the House of Peace, have a name from a
> >> language whose heartland is two thousand miles north?
> >
> >Becaus
o-biology and Wilson*. it was not a critique of
science.
> you can find NO evidence from the archives of the list for your lies
and
> accusuations. The fact of the matter is that you pursue your "cultural
> logic" on me persistently, you are being a *racist*
>
> Mine
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ism" needs
> to be retired from our vocabulary, since it acts only to deflect
> attention from the ills it pretends to name.
>
> Carrol
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erior to others.
If you want to see a racist get into a verbal tangle quickly, ask
him/her to define "race" and then ask prodding little questions on the
attempt. But stand back, the frustration, can to lead to violence in
some cases.
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