different versions of this
message. the first one i checked for validity and it didnt pan out. the
rest i have been deleting.
--ravi
a humorous proof from a math mailing list:
Original Message
vindication of anarchy:
THEOREM: Every government is unjust.
PROOF: Let G be an arbitrary government. Since G is arbitrary, it
is certainly unjust. Hence, by universal generalization, every
government is unjust.
to the lack of
circularity claimed in jim devine's post.
--ravi
Justin Schwartz wrote:
I met G and spoke to him when he was at the Institute and I was a Tigertown
undergrad . . . .
i hope you challenged him on his indefensible platonist epistemology! ;-)
--ravi
functions.
--ravi
a couple of billion dollars behind still-favorite
technology operations, but up from 11.2 percent in the first quarter and
3.95 percent higher than a year ago.
---
--ravi
http://www.michaelkelly.fsnet.co.uk/exis.htm
French Intellectuals to be Deployed in Afghanistan To Convince Taleban
of Non-Existence of God
The ground war in Afghanistan hotted up yesterday when the Allies
revealed plans to airdrop a platoon of crack French existentialist
philosophers into
Michael Perelman wrote:
Oh, hell, Ravi broke the code. We will have to use something more
sophisticated.
you economists should get hip with the scene and be like us computer
geeks: we have completely detached the process of creating and using
acronyms from underlying new theories
Carrol Cox wrote:
I'd love to know what a whopper mits is.
and do they serve fries mit that?
--ravi (sorry for b/w waste, couldnt resist)
are lost in transit, any equal amount of Meta-Content
contained in subsequently received packets is just as useful for
reconstructing the original content.
i guess this post sort of got longer than i expected!
--ravi
an investment,
helping take it to IPO, at which point they cashed out (see NEA, battery
ventures, oak, kliner-perkins, etc). the less smart ones attempted much
the same, but with lesser success.
--ravi
.
--ravi
Forstater, Mathew wrote:
Anyone listen to W?s press conference? He kept saying ?nucular? for
nuclear. He also said ?commiserate with? when it seemed like he was
trying to say ?consistent with?.
probably intended: commensurate with?
--ravi
Doyle Saylor wrote:
SIGNOFF PEN-L
dont listen to him! its a subliminabilal message from the vast rightwing
conspiracy! ;-)
--ravi
evidence to support it, as:
...
more at the URL above
--ravi
Devine, James wrote:
this is an example of the theft of intellectual property. Originally, the
joke was about the LAPD.
are you saying jks should not take our list owner's latest tome's title
that seriously? ;-)
--ravi
the minds of managers of large industrial
corporations at ease, since it gives them a single vendor to deal with,
who has great breadth of knowledge and experience, etc!
--ravi
and bn.com.
--ravi
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Hey, I also hired a few science Ph.Ds from very respectable
schools for boring programing jobs (Ravi would know what I mean
if I say they were required to write FORTRAN programs) for about
$50K.
i see what you mean, but fortran is a pleasure compared to what a lot
or unwillingness to deliver accurate
recommendations. Few conflict of interest allegations have been
substantiated, but it is common cause that the Chinese wall between
firms' investment bankers and analysts was demolished during the
listings boom from 1996 to 2000.
--
--ravi
the european car yet, though i do pause a second
before entering an expensive restaurant. ;-)
--ravi
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Let us be fair to most of the software engineers Ravi. It is
true, they and some others who did the dirty work ran to .com
companies opportunistically but after all they did the dirty
work, however meaningless what they were doing may be. I know
many who worked 12 hours
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Michael,
I am still having difficulty to send mails to your university
address. It somehow works through the list but not when I write
to your address directly. Weird. It could be a problem with my
settings but something like this has never happened before. Maybe
Ravi
with apologies if this is old news:
Russia tops business bribes survey
PARIS, France --Russian companies are the most likely to offer or pay
bribes for contracts in emerging market countries, according to a survey.
German-based corruption watchdog Transparency International (TI)
revealed
Famed biologist, author Stephen Jay Gould dies at 60
BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) --Stephen Jay Gould, a world-renowned
scientist who brought evolutionary theory and paleontology to a broad
public audience in dozens of wide-ranging books and essays, died Monday
of cancer.
He was 60, and died
have read
the former with not too much difficulty. one of the most interesting
books i have read on economics is a really old copy of a book (titled
money iirc) by H.C. coombs. lekachman's spirited critique of
reaganomics was quite newbie-readable also.
--ravi
that i can).
--ravi
nothing to do with economics, but since this sort of stuff has come
up before on pen-l, i thought some of you might find this interesting:
JAMA: Don't believe everything you read
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) --One of the world's leading medical journals has
put itself and its competitors under the
Sabri Oncu wrote:
How do you like my reformatting Eric? Apparently, I wrote some C
programs. Don't like those object oriented languages though. I am
yet too see their alleged advantage.
What do you say Ravi?
i like to believe that they exist to protect the novices from the
sort
i didnt see a mention of this before. sorry if its a repost.
--ravi
http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/06/04/rich_richer/index.html
Rich got richer in 1990s
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Genaro C. Armas
June 4, 2002 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economic prosperity of the 1990s
gave
http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/06/10/venture/index.html
Venture capitalists suffer huge losses
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Michael Liedtke
June 10, 2002 | SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- After escaping serious damage in
the early stages of the high-tech wreck, venture capitalists suffered
even
because of the existence of the FDA?
the firms do not care about public trust any more? or the public
begins to trust the firms because the FDA says they are ok? even
though their experience (with some drug or food) is the same?
--ravi
. is linguistics really
a hard science? appeal to authority doesn't hurt i guess (of course
none of this posturing diminishes my respect for chomsky).
--ravi
now being best
performed by utilizing the results of complex science. michael
pugliese responded to my post with a set of links, one of which
was a page that reported levitt to have said that he was being
facetious, or something of that sort).
--ravi
no paternal pride towards sokal! ;-)
--ravi
using mozilla? http://www.mozilla.org/ ;-)
(URL for opera left out intentionally)
--ravi
interacting groups to
drop ms office and start using openoffice. my experience with
sun's previous attempts, the linux community (including the
internal bickering between GNU and the younger crowd, kde and
gnome, etc), etc., makes me rather pessimistic.
--ravi
such.
--ravi
Devine, James wrote:
How do we know that none of them submit some of their papers with
mistakes that are known to them?
It's not just those who use computer programs who suffer from this.
\Chang, Kenneth. Bell Labs Forms Panel to Study Claims of Research
Misconduct,New York
and intolerance.
since it seems true that the actions of enron, worldcom et al has
affected many more lives than that of the al qaeda, perhaps we can
call for a war on corporate terrorism?
--ravi
to
success in america, i hope?
--ravi
the previous decade (80s) [i presume once again because
the workers made out like bandits].
is a CEO a worker?
--ravi
so we
better call the calling off off,
let's call the whole thing off!
--ravi
set pen-l mail postpone
ravi wrote:
set pen-l mail postpone
terribly sorry about that (and for this email also). that was supposed
to go to the list processor, not the list. to not entirely waste this
message, here's an interesting piece of news regarding EU investigation
of microsoft.
--ravi
http
Ken Hanly wrote:
U.S. authorities believe Sikhs, who wear turbans and have beards, have been
mistaken for Afghans and possible supporters of bin Laden.
snip happens
for more info: http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.hate.crimes/
--ravi
on vieques are
scaling back on their activities due to the current mood, and perhaps
that is true for other minority groups as well? if majority americans
(for want of a better term) have to explore new ways to communicate
their protest, is the minority doomed to silence?
--ravi
to be humoured around here!
the question i have for michael perelman is: do economics professors
and theorists usually frequent lap dancers? ;-)
--ravi
man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why
?
--ravi
Ken Hanly wrote:
From the Hindustantimes : cheers, K Hanly
P.S. Anyone know how many is a lakh?
10.
--ravi
since there has been interest on the list re: microsoft antitrust
case, here is the latest:
http://www.wired.com/news/antitrust/0,1551,48097,00.html
U.S. vs. Microsoft: It's Over Reuters
6:30 a.m. Nov. 2, 2001 PST
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Justice Department on Friday said it had reached
a
the recent .net effort
is but one) will be much more than that of cable monopolies
(which are already under scrutiny).
thanks for the link!
--ravi
folks.
i hope you find these links useful,
--ravi
man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined
as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than
laugh
read over the weekend! my thanks
also to others (michael perelman, brad delong, others) who have been
kind enough to respond to my questions on the state of economic
affairs in india,
--ravi
man is said
recently someone forwarded a bit to the list about the Nobel prize in
economics and whether it was meaningful, etc. reading through klemke,
hollinger, rudge: introductory readings on the philosophy of science, i
came across a piece that might be of interest. i have reproduced
sections from the
of violence except when used in
self-defense in situations where there is a direct threat to my life and
limb, would you a) disagree with my use of the word pacifist? or b) call
my position confused?
--ravi
=eE260BvjNe0V20Zgm0AR
--
--ravi
man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined
as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than
laugh
in the
world. that may be true.
--ravi
man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined
as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than
laugh or weep
a flow of causes from the most atomic
unit. sorry for the vagueness... i will try to express this better in a
follow-up.
--ravi
Ian Murray wrote:
From: ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if one were to listen to lewontin, it is this same blind
reductionism
and individualist/atomistic approach, driven by a will to emulate
physics, that gives rise to blockbuster but weak selfish gene
theories.
Well reductionism isn't
?
--ravi
can help by setting up
an archive elsewhere on the net...
--ravi
interesting to read an analysis of roy's critique of the
left govts of kerala.
--ravi
on it, if appropriate.
--ravi
://www.ximian.com/apps/evolution.php3
the effort to get windows unbundled from your PC and get your money back
has been a colourful one. see:
http://www.linuxmall.com/refund/
good luck,
--ravi
man is said to be a rational
Rob Schaap wrote:
G'day all (perhaps especially Ravi),
There was a bit of indignation in parts European when KPNQwest went
under, as parts of their Ebone operation (referred to as 'internet
backbone') were duly shut down.
Why won't this happen to WorldCom's UUNet (also referred
. why is it that we continue
to listen to them correcting themselves, all the while maintaining
their expert demeanour and certainty of belief?
cannot one of you experts do a sokal on these people?
--ravi
Devine, James wrote:
speaking of which, I know that size doesn't matter, but how is my font
showing up?
it could use some viagra.
--ravi
the jetsetting educated women's class. or is the
theory that the resulting abject poverty would bring about the
glorious revolution?
(with apologies for the excessive posts today. last one from me).
--ravi
theory! the axis of evil grows! thank god for the cowboys
and the brown sahibs!!
--ravi
).
(now i shall go atone in private for saying something positive about
microsoft in public ;-)).
--ravi
. by quickly hitting
that key you can enter the PROM menu and modify how your system
attempts to boot up. while you may be tempted to change that to
not have it attempt to boot from floppy, i advice you not to do
that.
hope that was helpful.
--ravi (not really an expert on PCs actually)
science does not think -- martin heidegger
(thought i would throw that one out and see what kind of fish
it attracts ;-)).
--ravi
-computational steps that penrose would have us believe
are involved in thought?
(i am trying to evade the questions that follow regarding
reductionism and the use of a well-defined language such as math
for proofs which can then be reviewed say by peers).
--ravi
is not,
that it is not.
==
Oh please
Please what? Ravi goes on about sort sort wierd context relative
truth, so I just quoted Ari's old definition that no one has improved
on these 2500 years.
snip of a 200 line long response which on second thought would
probably explain my
Doug Henwood wrote:
ravi wrote:
so what is wrong with sitting at home and mashing lentils? isn't the
point that the choice be available? as for shiva's point: it's
unimportant whether its men who are doing it or women (she says
women because they are doing it today). the point she makes
or Nazi
has lost the discussion, and the thread terminates.
---
--ravi
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
Some of you can start polishing up your shot glasses.
i have 23 (shotglasses), though i am not sure i want to take shots
of scotch... where's the party? ;-)
--ravi
Davies, Daniel wrote:
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:53:55AM -0400, ravi wrote:
goodwin's law?
what has processor speed doubling every two years got to do with this?
you can type nazi twice as fast? no, you are thinking of moore's
law. my apologies for non-progressive-economics content
of India. Indeed, Japan and the rest
of East Asia could have been colonized and suffered a fate similar to
India's. But actual events followed a very different course.
--
--ravi
population? say it is 1% of
the indian population. could you provide some sources for such a number?
could you also provide a hint on what number would constitute significant
followers in india?
--ravi
Doug Henwood wrote:
ravi wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no
followers in India.
can you back up this statement?
I've heard it from people in the antiglobo movement, and from Ulhas
Joglekar on either this list or lbo-talk
software community, especially the
transition to and from commercial software operations.
--
--ravi
nothing to do with economics, but i thought this might be of interest.
--ravi
Original Message
\Lawler, Andrew. Researcher Acquitted of Lab Theft
Charge, Science 297 (30 August 2002), p. 1463.\
A jury last week found a scientist
with the
attack on afghanistan. or the attacks of the israeli govt on the people
of palastine...
--ravi
ps: the reference to the people of india does not the fact that the same
people in india, even those living in the south, shower fervent support
on the indian govt's atrocities in kashmir
view; except i am not entirely sure his reasoning is honest. he uses the
unintended consequence of the US attack on afghanistan (i.e., some
relaxation of the controls on the afghani people) as a justification for
the illegal/immoral act itself.
--ravi
) is
probably not configured for an NNTP (news) server, or her server does
not carry that newsgroup.
--ravi
if we can counter the forces at work to reduce the
discussion to one of personalities, can we devise a form of
debate/analysis that can make progress? i.e., is political science a
science?
just some silly speculation at the cost of the list membership. my
apologies!
--ravi
debating it),
but instead iran and syria attacking israel using the hezbollah.
--ravi
to software at:
http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/
feel free to send me questions if you think i can be of help.
--ravi
Devine, James wrote:
[was: RE: [PEN-L:30615] Re: Re: Re: Personalities and the List]
Ravi wrote:
the philosopher quine i think (jks can correct me, that is if he is
still being nice to me ;-)), or perhaps one of the logical positivists,
suggested that we should do away with ordinary
and World Order, delivered by Henry
Kissinger, Nobel prizewinner and former United States Secretary of
State, at the Independent Newspapers Annual Lecture at Trinity College,
Dublin, 12 October 1999.
---
--ravi
(if the population is fairly heterogenous)?
do i need to see a therapist for taking the post so seriously? ;-)
--ravi
aren't you folks generalizing a bit too much? there are semi-academic
mailing lists that are extremely productive. half the protocols and
technologies that you are using, to carry out this very discussion,
sprang from discussions on such lists.
--ravi
stuff and the big stuff will disappear. white collar crime not
included).
--ravi
list of thugs.
might even beat giving kissinger the peace price! (i guess i could be
fair to vajpayee and differentiate between the hindu goons that his
party draws its support from and the man himself, but i wonder how
meaningful such a differentiation is).
--ravi
).
--ravi
not american, and i am not a leftist
of any consequence, but i had no quarrel with marc cooper until his
ill-reasoned ad hominem attack on amy goodman.
--ravi
!
;-)
with apologies for off-topic content,
--ravi
.
whether it be my general responses to his posts, or to the particular
issue of marc cooper (and i agree that we should avoid discussing
personalities), i have tried to be honest and friendly. if that
impression is untrue, i apologize.
--ravi
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