Max wrote, >Really, is this post some kind of Sokal-type snare for >POMO-tistas? They should thank me for alerting them. The snare's there, but not in the post. Just because there's a radical separation between language and reality doesn't mean there's no reality or even that reality is "unknowable". The snare is in the presumed dichotomy that *either* our ideas and language can perfectly correspond with reality or the relationship must be entirely arbitrary. But there's a third possibility, which just happens to be a fairly classical position -- in any *meaningful* information, there is an irreducible residue of ambiguity. If anything, I'd call that Cartesian rather than POMO-tista. >If what you said made any sense, no organization could >function. Clearly they do, so you didn't. Not at all. No organization could function with an imperative for completely accurate information. I taught a course in project management in which the greatest anxiety among students is about having to "make up" some of the information they report. Same thing when I was collecting statistics from school principals: "How do I fill this in?" You just have to guess. "How do I know what to guess?" You just have to guess and so on. I'll grant that if what I said made any sense, no organization could function "all by itself" that is *without people to mediate the ambiguity*. So, yes, "artificial intelligence" is a crock. Regards, Tom Walker ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ knoW Ware Communications | Vancouver, B.C., CANADA | "Only in mediocre art [and in spreadsheets] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | does life unfold as fate." (604) 669-3286 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The TimeWork Web: http://mindlink.net/knowware/worksite.htm