Barkley, I have to say I agree with Lou. I have a few gripes about his List. It's too American soft-left oriented and that makes it a little self-preoccupied and even provincial (there is a wider world and American listees need to remember that we're not all totally up to speed with the ins and outs of American everyday politics for instance). Me personally, I don't quite agree that anyone who uses either of the "R" words is automatically a sectarian, either. But that said, it's a great list and if we can deepen its international base (and concerns) it'll be better. As Lou says, you can always go and bash loony Trots and Maoists over the head on M-Int any time you like. The talking tractors will still be there; they won't go away. I still think we should avoid cross-posting. I bought my daughter a cat. Now we have seven and they all fuck like crazy. I hate that sort of promiscuous thing. Mark PS Remember the talking tractors? Da-da-da-dadaDAH. Da-da-da-dadaDAHHH! Every 9 pm? At least YOU know what I'm talking about. Louis Proyect wrote: > > >Louis's new list, however > >virtuous and fascinating it might be, is a further movement > >in the fragmentation that began with the original splitting > >of the original marxism list several years ago. > >Unfortunately, as I think he himself would have to admit, > >Louis P. was one of the most important players in what led > >to that split. > >Barkley Rosser > > Barkley, the Marxism list at Panix is the list I had hoped for a couple of > years ago, but never materialized. I had a concept that the political > framework for the list fall within the rough parameters of MR, NLR, CNS, > Against the Current, CofC, Solidarity, etc. I never really wanted to deal > with the tiny ultraleft sectarian groups that tended to dominate the > day-to-day discussions on Spoons. For some reason, you seem to enjoy > arguing with such nuts in no-holds-barred food fights. I don't. There are > 90 subscribers to the Marxism list right now and the amount of traffic is > less than 20 posts a day, which is about right it seems. My intention is to > continue to make sure that the present type of list "ecology" continues > into the future, as new people are added. The other Marxism lists are dying > a slow death right now. Marxism-International has been quieter and quieter > each day. The reason for this is that the prospects of following debate > number 11,324 over Stalin-Trotsky is about as inviting as root-canal work. > The other list, Marxism-General, has no future either because it is the > home base of some really nutty people. I would be deeply surprised if it is > functioning in a month or two from now. So right now, the two places where > you will find discussion of Marxist theory and politics are LBO and the > Marxism lists. > > On the crossposting problem. I agree with Mark Jones. I have been > profligate. I will no longer post any longer pieces to PEN-L. I will still > post to LBO and Marxism, however, if the item is of particular interest to > both groups. If anybody can think of a way to eliminate duplicate posts, > please let me know. > > Louis Proyect > > (http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)
