Perhaps Bill Cochrane was just being sarcastic, but I don't recall seeing anyone nominate Marilyn Waring for sainthood or minor deity status. In my view, being a tory is no disqualification for having something sensible to say. Nor is being "no friend of unions or . . . other traditional left progressive organizations (OTLPOs)" an unforgivable sin. Unions and OTLPOs have often been hostile to environmental issues, 'women's' issues, and racial equality issues. Unions have often been hostile to the 'left'. For that matter, TLPOs are often hostile to OTLPOs. Unions and OTLPOs have traditionally gone along with a capitalist GDP growth model, disputing only the ultimate division of the spoils. Sometimes it takes a tory to say something sensible that 'even' the left refuses to acknowledge. In the 1970s North American left there was a lot of anxiety about 'ideological purity'. Sectlet competed with sectlet for mastery of a 'correct analysis.' Of course, some of the big wigs of some of the most rigourously pure sectlets went on to academic careers and had 'second thoughts' about their youthful radicalism, joining the already considerable ranks of ex-marxist neo-cons. This alone should serve as sufficient warning against the tenuousness of using ancestoral *ad hominem* as a criteria for dismissing or embracing ideas. Regards, Tom Walker ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ knoW Ware Communications | Vancouver, B.C., CANADA | "Only in mediocre art [EMAIL PROTECTED] | does life unfold as fate." (604) 669-3286 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The TimeWork Web: http://mindlink.net/knowware/worksite.htm