Devine, James wrote:

for what it's worth, that "Tomb" is the building of the Skull & Bones
secret society, the most elite of the Yale secret societies, which
probably includes both Dubya and his father. It's been linked to the CIA
and clearly is a formal organization of the most elite of the "old
[White Anglo-Saxon] boys' network" of US business. Allegedly, they
promise Bonesmen an annual income of something like 1/2 a million
dollars, but never have to shell out money, since they guarantee members
good jobs. Maybe Doug Henwood knows this stuff, though he was not a
member (as far as I know).

No I wasn't. The only weird group I belonged to at Yale was the Party of
the Right.

Most of what I know about Bones comes from Alexandra Robbins book
Secrets of the Tomb (and it was Jim Craven who put me onto her). I wrote
up the book for the Nation's website
<http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20021216&s=reading20021203 and
interviewed her on my radio show
<http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>.

I heard Kevin Phillips on the radio. He seemed to think that the early
Bush/CIA connection made sense in terms of the evidence.

Phillips argued in Post-Conservative America (1986 or so) that the CIA
did Nixon in, because the Eastern Establishment never trusted him.

Doug

Response: There are all sorts of crackpot theories--mostly fronm the
ultra-right--about Skull and Bones but there are also some basic facts
that one can triangulate from diverse sources and/or from sources inside
S and B itself.
By the way, John Kerry is a member along with GW so if Kerry winds up
with the nomination from the Dems, it will be Bonesman versus Bonesman
(which should be interesting since they take an oath never to go against
another Bonesman--now Bonesperson since women were let in in 1991--and
to favor and support all Bonespersons. Rumor is that S and B are split
almost down the middle in terms of supporting Bush or Kerry.

S and B was founded in 1832 with money from the opium trade in China by
General William Russel and Alphonso Taft. They are clearly the most
dangerous, most connected, most ruthless and most secret of any of the
secret societies. Another book worth looking at (but be careful of the
myths versus the triangulatable facts) is brand new and goes beyond
Alexandra's Book (she is from Scroll and Key another and somewhat
related secret society at Yale) is called "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones:
Investigations into America's Most Powerful Secret Society" edited by
Kris Milligan,
Trine Day Press, 2003. Their known rituals and dress are definitely
Satanic. Close to them, also studied by G. William Domhoff is The
Bohemian Grove with extensive cross membership. There are 7 known Bushes
in Skull and Bones (more than any other family including Taft) with four
of them known in Bohemian Grove.

They are made up of mostly white in-bred preppys (from the Puritan
families) but they have also brought in  a few Jews, Latinos, a Black or
two, a few "radicals", now some women (including recently one of the
Bush daughters) and even gays. But there is no doubt they are
anti-Semites, misogynists, racists, homophobes, elitists, imperialists
and just plain scum. Their origins are Masonic/Illuminati with a touch
of "right Hegelianism". They have the notion of "managed conflict" based
on the notion of Thesis-->Antithesis-->Synthesis-->new Thesis-->...
Which is why they include some nominal non-preppys and non-whites (to
cover the spread). If you can influence not only the thesis (established
order) but also the Antithesis (allowable forms and levels of reaction
to the Thesis) you can influence and manage change and the new Synthesis
or new Established order. 

A transcript of one of their secret initiations, the first one ever, can
be found at: http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=4136 which
will reveal how sick these twisted scum are.
One of their rituals, called "Connubial Bliss", involves the initiate
lying naked in a coffin, jacking off and recounting their sexual
histories in such lurid details as to help others get off as well; this
is used not only for bonding and control it is also used for potential
blackmail material. In this initation case, they are mocking the brutal
torture suffered by Abner Louima: "Take that plunger out of my ass..."

They are still holding the skull of Geronimo stolen (called "crooking"
or "copping") by Prescott Bush and four others from Fort Sill, Oklahoma
in May of 1918. Native and other activists (yours truly included) are
presently organizing for a massive demonstration outside the Tomb to
call for return of all Native remains and artifacts--and we will not
leave until they are returned--to be announced soon.

Jim C.

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