Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

Greetings Economists, On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: Good job Yoshie. Keep posting to make “Monthly Review” a household name in Iran. Doyle; Another personal attack from LP about Iran to Yoshie. Since Yoshie is not here to answer these questions I ask that Michael

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

for Yoshie? It is not in my view a great error. Thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 22, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Jim Devine wrote: As far as I can tell, Louis wasn't saying Yoshie is wrong to support Iran's current government against the opposition because she's bad [or whatever], which would be an _ad hominem_

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

Greetings Economists, The problem with the concept 'join the rest of the world' is that it seems to me to miss the point of the underlying events of the election. The dispute over the election is debatable, i.e. the opposition claims of voting fraud are unreliable because they had no

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

the line that LP does below. That is a not especially hard thing to do. Makes this a better place for fraternal discussions. It is two edged sword because I find myself learning how to do this myself. Basically to offer respect to LP but demand he follow the rules. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

Greetings Economists, Than expel me from Pen-L. You are being selective about how you enforce the rules. To bring this up here is blatantly hostile to me posting. Take you courage and expel me then. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: Doyle, you just

Re: [Pen-l] Harvard professor Gates arrested - CNN.com

Greetings Economists, On Jul 21, 2009, at 8:23 AM, ravi wrote: Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. was arrested last week on a charge of disorderly conduct. Doyle; The NYTimes article adds some interesting details; http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us/21gates.html Professor Gates, who

Re: [Pen-l] Homosexuality then and now

. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:13 AM, raghu wrote: Just to be clear, I do not endorse the content of either article I forwarded. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Noam Chomsky show

Greetings Economists, On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:35 AM, ravi wrote: Really? You think so? I just that Louis Proyect had decided to go terse and switched to Twitter format for YouTube reviews! ;-) Got to keep with the times! Or perhaps he was trolling? Doyle; Ha ha. Right. Thanks for

Re: [Pen-l] The Noam Chomsky show

. In this case it's not friendly. Taking note of what I see as a pattern. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Homosexuality then and now

. Rather how do you parse these two articles? What do you mean repeats arguments from the sixties and why? Thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Collaborative animation

Greetings Economists, Interesting NY Times article here - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/movies/16mass.html?ref=technology That details how collaboration processes are creeping into Hollywood Production. An Animated Film Is Created Through Internet Consensus The marketplace — advertising,

Re: [Pen-l] Abolition as self-help

conditions for transmitting knowledge. To summarize your thought above is too static about the barriers to a teaching process. Too focused on how stories or narratives are relatively fixed and unchanging versus the human plasticity. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Total War

of my hands. Usually happens to workers like you and me rather more than it happens toward them. In other words capital decides total war, not us. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 16, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: I can't get any more radical than I have become over the decades. Fuck

Re: [Pen-l] the intra-class struggles in China

and Afghanistan that was basically conquerors who did not understand the local languages. It would be nice if a China knowledgeable person could speak to what is behind these clashes. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Re: How Bad Will the Economy Get?

barrier to what can be done on Pen-L. Having said that, people have habits that are hard to change or address. So I sympathize with your comment and expect it to not make much impact. Thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 15, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: No, I can't. I don't know about

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

Greetings Economists, On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Bill Lear wrote: Yet again the level of disourse on PEN-L descends to the worthless. Doyle; This is uncalled for and does not belong on Pen-L. Michael I expect you do something if Bill Lear continues this sort of comment. Thanks, Doyle

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

. It's not likely to develop well on Pen-L, but it's interesting to watch the tensions rising. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Bill Lear wrote: You pummel us with drivel for days on end and I'm simply pointing this out. Doug is right, we should just ignore you. You waste

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

Michael, can you do me a favor and comment on this attack? Everybody has a right to ignore me, but this troll attack is a personal attack now from two people. LP is contributing to a sectarian atmosphere on Pen-L. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: I

[Pen-l] To Michael Perelman

Hello Michael, Am I troll on Pen-L? If so I will leave. If not I expect you to do something right now about this little string of personal attacks. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: Bill Lear wrote: You pummel us with drivel for days on end and I'm

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

Hi Doug, I thought you said you would ignore me. In this case it's really not the point to ignore me. Something seems to get you upset with me out of proportion to what I do. You need to look at your actions better. If you can't ignore me don't play little games like this. Thanks Doyle

Re: [Pen-l] To Michael Perelman

Greetings Economists, Ok, I have to be clarified more when it happens. But I'm game for change. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 14, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: Of course, you are not a troll. I think what sets people off is that your style is somewhat based on morality. I think

Re: [Pen-l] my apologies!!!!

Greetings Economists, To me you can say this on Pen-L. So I find nothing for you to apologize. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 14, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: I meant to write my last note off line. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

the North right in the U.S. civil war because of economic determinations, not moral precepts. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

is not useful characterization of governments. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

direct contact with Iran, and the substance is lacking to jump to conclusions. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free -- ignoring flames

Greetings Economists, On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Jim Devine wrote: prophet models? Doyle; Age related dementia. Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

want them to yell All Hail to the New Iranian Socialist Revolution? or All Hail to Doyle Saylor? Mass movements in actually-existing societies -- as opposed to those that happen in abstract pictures of society -- reflect the societies they develop from. They hardly ever reflect leftist preconceptions

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

Greetings Economists, This is something that the test of time provides better answers for than opining back and forth. Protests fade away. Revolts produce solid results if not revolutions. I'll reboot or change my mind when time tells me it's appropriate. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 10

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

Greetings Economists, I thought Gladwell's review was superficial. He is definitely anti 'free' information. However, his grasp of the issues are more slogan than substance. Thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:38 AM, ravi wrote: Free is a book by Chris Anderson of WIRED

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

business that makes money is Google which networks information, and social networks. The newspapers and their workers are being reduced because the content can't meet the demands of social networking content. One fights low wages and depression by socially organizing. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

Greetings Economists, Wikipedia is a good counter example. Open source coding has wounded Microsoft. What happens is that social networking processes often don't directly compete with bourgeois media. Yet have tremendous muscle. Doyle Saylor On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Doug Henwood

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

squeezed by the collapse of the information work that doesn't meet needs that social media does. Actually a lot of so-called print journalist are already social journalists and doing ok in bad times. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: Hey, who isn't against

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

Greetings Economists, On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: Oh the community. I've heard that so many times around Pacifica I could scream. The community is a vague and undefinable thing. Most people in the broadcast or print audience don't really know all that much about what's

Re: [Pen-l] Employee emulates thieving employer

. This coverage or network structure is the over all value of the information. The more extensive and varied the use of the coverage the more valuable, and the less parts of the map cost. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Uighur oppression

Greetings Economists, On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: This area languished for centuries until competition between China, Russia, and European powers during the 19th century prompted an invasion by the Manchus into East Turkestan with the encouragement of British banks

Re: [Pen-l] Re: local observations

with people about disparate views, but I think that is my depression not political. So in the last ten years or so I've tried to accept differences and be more respectful. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 4, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: Hey! I am a mathematician, not an economist, and I

Re: [Pen-l] local observations

Greetings Economists, It's still busy. Ate there twice in the last two months. Good food, and wine. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: How is that Mediterranean place across Bank of America near Ashby doing in these days

Re: [Pen-l] local observations

for a long time in terms of how many homeless hang out. A lot of homeless hang out in the park next to the high school. And elsewhere. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Habib Ahmadzadeh: Mousavi Must Say Which Ballot Boxes He Disputes

organizes demonstrations? Are they mostly spontaneous? Do you think this has a long term implication? thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Habib Ahmadzadeh: Mousavi Must Say Which Ballot Boxes He Disputes

you make revolutions with such movements. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: Gee, I guess I have to reconsider everything now. What color is it? And is it the same color as your parachute? ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and the perils of success

with contemporary influences which are normally raw and ill refined. The mass market changes (exhausting or making boring a genre) put up a wall stopping traditions from transmitting over long time frames. Thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list

Re: [Pen-l] Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and the perils of success

we get are what the commercial media produce. You can't ignore the economics that commercial media put upon society that narrow and shape what can be heard. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Reviving the DiggLeft project...

Great Idea, Let's see if it flies. Do it. Doyle Saylor On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:44 AM, ravi wrote: All, if you do not know what Digg is, it’s a site where people submit links to web pages (often news articles) and others vote these links up or down. Visiting Digg will let you view links

Re: [Pen-l] smart grid question

which are pretty much at their limits of generating electricity. And are environmentally questionable. Local power creation puts up unnecessary barriers to distribution of solar power. Thanks, Doyle Saylor On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Eugene Coyle wrote: And why long distance transmission

Re: [Pen-l] smart grid question

of energy. That is equivalent to the capacity of the Raccoon Mountain reservoir, the largest pumped hydroelectric facility in the U.S. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] smart grid question

progress to me. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] smart grid question

to post any more articles. The argument ought to be as you stated the costs merits of what is to be done. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] smart grid question

requires shifts that we can't calculate fully what will happen, because the people power is missing from the process right now. Or that's how I think it best to find a balance-able process is a global system of people power. Capitalism will not produce balance by definition. thanks, Doyle

Re: [Pen-l] The Science Arrow of Time

up to about 1995. Which implies various ways to understand progress. Information distribution per human. Some sort of measure of what knowledge a life entails? How much information per second? What sort of network ties? thanks, Doyle Saylor On May 29, 2009, at 12:59 PM, raghu wrote

Re: [Pen-l] Prostitution

or animals do what it will do. thanks, Doyle Saylor On May 26, 2009, at 8:22 PM, David B. Shemano wrote: Do you really, really, really believe that male and female sexuality is entirely culturally determined? Do you believe homosexuality is entirely cultural, maybe improper toilet training

Re: [Pen-l] Prostitution

of female and male behavior are not realistic representations of real human potentials. thanks, Doyle Saylor On May 26, 2009, at 9:17 PM, David B. Shemano wrote: You want evidence? I will give you evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

[Pen-l] Benchmarks for Obama - Healthcare

think it not quite the time to say the reformist candidate Obama has failed, but Healthcare definitely is the benchmark that determines success or failure of his administration. To paraphrase after that the deluge. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l

[Pen-l] 100 disabled activist arrested many at White House fence

, they are the ones getting hurt now and they represent at least one major thread of radical change waiting to happen. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Epigenetics

good example of the tyrannical aspects of big science. The political linkages to anti-Lysenkoism made any discussion of the topic verboten in public scientific discourse though various marginalized voices may have kept the faith so to speak about environmental influences. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Epigenetics

plan of plant stasis via a faulty concept of gene expression. So in effect the rise of claims about epigentics undermines significant economic status of bio-engineering. Which is a big deal in my view. thanks, Doyle Saylor On May 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Jim Devine wrote

[Pen-l] Epigenetics

here have noted contemporary accounts of such fundamental shifts away from genetic determinism, a popular media like PBS indicates to me at least that the sort of sway that held for a long time about genetic determinism in the U.S. has come to an end. Just an observation. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] IDIOTIC THREAD THAT IS A WASTE OF TIME

to the medium. thanks, Doyle Saylor On May 9, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Sabri Oncu wrote: But, this is an addiction of some sort, like addiction to alcohol, drugs, cigarettes and the like, so it is not that easy to quit. What is more scary is that this world feels more real than the real world we live

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

Greetings Economists, It is obvious from what Ravi wrote he is not saying that. You twist his words. Doyle On May 8, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: You mean there is no difference between (say) Pinker Summers on the one hand, Levins, Lewontin, Gould on the other? You take your

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

Greetings Economists, Or as most people say here with no particular precision, 'reductionism'. If Ravi lines up the current 'reductionist' line up and calls their blather tyranny, in most ways Gould would have agreed. And said a lot of the same things against sociobiology. Read Ravi's

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

Greetings Economists, All you do in my view is muddy the waters with your counter argument against Raghu. I think Michael sums it up best this is merely people talking past each other trying to find an argument with something that is really no one is disagreeing with. You call it stupid

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

Greetings Economists, All well and good to cite the method. However, let's take cosmology as a good example. String theory is a dominate academic view of the smallest events. Proving string theory is difficult. There are many competing views of the physics at the quantum level. How

Re: [Pen-l] California Fiscal Bait and Switch

Greetings Economists, On May 4, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Jim Devine wrote: in addition, rising house prices and assiduous property assessors (trying to raise revenue for the financially-strapped state and local governments) led to soaring tax assessments, which squeezed a lot of home-owners whose

Re: [Pen-l] Socialism Gaining Ground in America

. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Apr 14, 2009, at 5:34 AM, c b wrote: CB: However, not to worry. Fascism can never come again. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Socialism Gaining Ground in America

see ethnic barriers? How do we organize? We have no major wars to shape broad consciousness about social forces. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Socialism Gaining Ground in America

for at the very least reforms. And given international changes potential for reining in the basic U.S. imperial system that in turn foments radical change globally. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Apr 11, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: I completely agree. My attacks on such volunteerism over

Re: [Pen-l] BBC | Bomb blows hole in Lenin statue

. This then is the real deal behind a statue. Thanks, Doyle Saylor On Apr 7, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Jim Devine wrote: I forgot to mention that Lenin did not want any statues of himself built. I believe he said that all statues do is to attract pigeons. ___ pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Late Bloomer; Spinning into Butter

Greetings Economists, On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: These response are not incompatible with my query and provisional respnse. They describe what the movie (book, etc) does for the viewer/reader privately. That is fine, in fact Any response in these terms is acceptable. Can

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

. Uneven development is capitalist patterns of economic activity. Poor provinces deprived of some heinous activity they make money off of is not a difficult choice to make. Replace one set of work with another that merits universal interests. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

of the plant landscape. So if you go into cattle country what sort of plant community do you see? Does growing rice in California for the Asian market make sense? thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Religious atheism [was: Charter schools

. In other words while vague about being outside the world taking a stance that is the center of knowledge for a Buddhist. In this sense a Buddhist can't know what is outside the world but knows it is there. And therefore is not an atheist. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Religious atheism [was: Charter schools

Greetings Economists, On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Shane Mage wrote: A-THEISM: the a, expressing negation,=without. theos=God. Atheism literally means without [a] God. Because the world is everything that is the case there can be no stance that is outside the world. The assertion of

Re: [Pen-l] rallying behind the hegemon

capitalism is persistent? Why not better analysis of the present conditions than go over giant size claims that are not clear right now? thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen

Re: [Pen-l] rallying behind the hegemon

before it sounds like trying to staunch fear by appeal to delusions. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Re: Gold money is fiat money too.

a scrap of thought in a pile of emails one has to determine a process of agreement that can bind two or more people into the work process to make that simple statement. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] more grist for Tom's mill

crisis? Thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Obama and the Cult of Personality

is a figment of capitalism. What is real is language differences that make it difficult for people to understand each other because sharing knowledge is difficult. And those problems are not figments, nor are people just blowing smoke when they say they are English. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] What are these lists for?

as opposed to text which is a data carrier. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

of the early Reagan neoliberal era. We'll just see how much longer California suffers under right wing strictures. In any case there is a real left base to build upon here so I expect change to happen here when things get critical. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

optimism w.r.t Obama) deserves a lot of leeway, lest we lose content in pursuit of form. Whether such leeway applies to responses such as blah, blah I will leave for MP to decide. Doyle; In this case I agree with Ravi. People don't have to completely polite to one and the other. thanks, Doyle

Re: [Pen-l] Mr Peepers speaks

Greetings Economists, On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: What an utterly weird thing to say, Julio. Doyle; No not in the context. It's just a weak joke in the thread about flaccid attacks. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing

[Pen-l] New hydrogen production method could reduce need for fossil fuels

time. end quote thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

phone and take a picture of the streetscape. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

clarity. And clearness has to be related to what the tool or application you use can handle in terms of volume, and precision. the list is low volume manual labor. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

mean I don't appreciate your replies. Thanks for the last come back anyway. yours, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

. So another weakness of the format of the list. Often commented on by various people also. if you are bored with my comments it's odd you want to say something like the above. I think like most such affectations it's just the form that counts not the content. thanks, Doyle Saylor

Re: [Pen-l] Iceland

the 'religious', the religing of thinking gets pushed out of the picture as the neuroscience explores the meaning of human experience. It's absurd to see religion hanging on in the left. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu

Re: [Pen-l] Vietnam keen to further join in Afghan reconstruction

threads, the lack of cohesion, the socially inept means of connecting are dreadful features of lists and their failings. humbug, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Hunger

the jargon and commodity production of information technology. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: I think the British art scene is a crock of shit myself. Proof of that is the success of Damien Hirst with his shark in formaldehyde and his skull made

Re: [Pen-l] Remember, the recession isn't all bad

. will come to the debate yet to represent labor or workers power, but as intellectual debates go we can anticipate a more robust discussion. And the end of timorous refrains. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Remember, the recession isn't all bad

about what to do. And an appeal to robust attitudes is more apt than as some say here waving their arms. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] auto bailout question

the capitalist know we want more not less. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] autoworker pay

Greetings Economists, On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Marty Hart-Landsberg wrote: wages, overtime and vacation pay, and comes to about $40 an hour. Doyle; What is the base rate pay? How much of their time is overtime and why? This sort of number casting is miss leading in the extreme.

Re: [Pen-l] a feminist angle

someone to represent women better see Chai Feldblum and her reforms on flexible work here - http://www.law.georgetown.edu/workplaceflexibility2010/ thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman

Re: [Pen-l] a feminist angle

, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Roosevelt's Brain Trust vs Obama's Brainiacs

? Then what does grandpa want? Meanwhile back home, what does the public want? I don't think austerity? Guns before butter? Ha ha let's see what happens! :-) thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] The Obama cult

as the 'leading' authority of knowledge. But breaking down these religious knowledge forces to say 'cult' to my mind is incorrect. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] center-right president?

the same prospects as did Bush to push things left in the U.S. The working class freed of racist illusions is much more likely to unite behind their interests. This uniting is likely to scare the right and polarize the U.S., but in a wholly new context. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Nov 22, 2008

Re: [Pen-l] RE: pen-l the fake New York Times

for awhile but the process over time equalize and the 'whole' of the base of intellectual work comes together because of the interconnectedness of communications and data processing. thanks, Doyle Saylor On Nov 16, 2008, at 3:32 AM, McDonough, Terrence wrote: Offshoring your fresh

Re: [Pen-l] the Obama movement

surveillance technology to get more data, but don't how to use it. In effect the knowing everyone is not an effective way to control things. What really binds people in a super large society? thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Howard Zinn: Obama's Historic Victory

and his obvious limitations by any means. thanks, Doyle Saylor ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

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