Re: [Pen-l] ... sinks to new lows

2009-07-31 Thread // ravi
Adios, list. Sabri, please stay in touch -- I would still like to plan another dinner. --ravi On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: Apparently forced to deal with the almost unanimous opposition to Ahmadinejad by Iranian leftist intellectuals in the West as well

Re: [Pen-l] How Norton Antivirus Sucks?

2009-07-27 Thread ravi
, the cost argument is bogus. --ravi -- Anyone who takes an effort to intellectually challenge the status quo and established habits is infinitely more venerable than hacks defending that status quo and established habits, regardless of the truth function of their propositions

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-23 Thread ravi
. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Hamid Dabashi [was: Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-23 Thread ravi
On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Jim Devine wrote: ravi wrote: BTW, I strongly recommend Doug's interview of Hamid Dabashi (available via podcast -- ping me for links). While Dabashi does deliver the goods with some criticism of unfashionable Western leftists, he, IMHO, contradicts the sort

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-22 Thread ravi
. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-22 Thread ravi
On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:26 PM, ravi wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Jim Devine wrote: snarky, perhaps, but it's not _ad hominem_. Here's a snarky explanation from http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html: One of the most widely misused terms on the Net is ad hominem. It is most often

Re: [Pen-l] Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-22 Thread ravi
On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:26 PM, ravi wrote of my interview with Hamid Dabashi: Ahmadinejad is a populist. He won the previous election because of redistributive policies. You should say that Dabashi meant populist in a scornful sense - he

Re: [Pen-l] Re: Iranian government takes note of MRZine support

2009-07-22 Thread ravi
gathering, perhaps with families? --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Harvard professor Gates arrested - CNN.com

2009-07-21 Thread ravi
Gates continued to yell and accuse him of racial bias, Crowley wrote he arrested Gates for loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space. ... --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Pen-l] The Noam Chomsky show

2009-07-18 Thread ravi
of except a very short little judgment. In this case it's not friendly. Really? You think so? I just that Louis Proyect had decided to go terse and switched to Twitter format for YouTube reviews! ;-) Got to keep with the times! Or perhaps he was trolling? --ravi

[Pen-l] The Noam Chomsky show

2009-07-17 Thread ravi
If at all you are mildly into philosophy, this is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtckVng_1a0 --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] (Fwd) Overaccumulation, concedes WB

2009-07-16 Thread ravi
solvency of governments. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] (Fwd) Overaccumulation, concedes WB

2009-07-16 Thread ravi
! --ravi Of course, either way, the IMF's standard policies are inappropriate, more punishment than cure. BTW, in the ECONOMIC REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT, the US Council of Economic Advisers admitted the role of overaccumulation when describing the 2001 recession. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:47 AM

Re: [Pen-l] Re: How Bad Will the Economy Get?

2009-07-15 Thread ravi
On Jul 15, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: Just kidding, For a time when you may not be kidding ;-), here are some links: http://getdropbox.com/ http://drop.io/ http://send.io/ http://box.net/ --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

2009-07-14 Thread ravi
, Doyle is not a troll but writes detailed posts with his analysis/thoughts. Big deal. They are (at the least) no worse than Louis Proyect's movie reviews, for that matter. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

2009-07-14 Thread ravi
On Jul 14, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jul 14, 2009, at 2:17 PM, ravi wrote: They are (at the least) no worse than Louis Proyect's movie reviews, for that matter. What an outrage. Lou's movie reviews are thoughtful and funny. Doyle is a pious and ham-handed hack. So, if I

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

2009-07-13 Thread ravi
, religious instigators), are not their friends. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

2009-07-13 Thread ravi
On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:32 PM, ravi wrote: This swings both ways. For Iranians, third world people, others, the enemy (leftists in the West) of their enemy (local capitalists, colonial and foreign powers, religious instigators

Re: [Pen-l] The Tragedy of the Left's Discourse on Iran

2009-07-10 Thread // ravi
. Unsurprising. Btw, reference has been made to Yoshie's posts on LBO -- readers would indeed do well to read all related threats in the archive. I will post links when I have better connectivity. -- ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu

[Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

2009-07-09 Thread ravi
Free is a book by Chris Anderson of WIRED, previously celebrated for his other work The Long Tail. Malcolm Gladwell reviews the book here: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/07/06/090706crbo_books_gladwell?currentPage=all --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Malcolm Gladwell reviews Free by Chris Anderson

2009-07-09 Thread ravi
or details), (b) worse because it does away with even the pretence of objectivity (small 'o'). --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Goldman Sachs and software theft

2009-07-08 Thread ravi
ways,” [U.S Attorney] Facciponti said, according to a recording of the hearing made public today. ;-) --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Employee emulates thieving employer

2009-07-07 Thread ravi
On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: I don't think this Russian guy is guilty of anything. Information has a market prices of $0, is it not? This guy, btw, was a co-worker of mine a few years ago! --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list

Re: [Pen-l] Employee emulates thieving employer

2009-07-07 Thread ravi
speaking, that information may have zero price, but not in the Brave New World. A point of clarification, if I understand this right: Serge is accused of stealing the software. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Re: Employee emulates thieving employer

2009-07-07 Thread ravi
On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Sabri Oncu wrote: Ravi: This guy, btw, was a co-worker of mine a few years ago! I am not surprised and I am sure you agree with me: What did he steal? In one of the earliest posts on this matter on a blog or web site, one of the commentors ranted

Re: [Pen-l] Re: Employee emulates thieving employer

2009-07-07 Thread ravi
On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:58 AM, ravi wrote: In one of the earliest posts on this matter on a blog or web site, one of the commentors ranted that this sort of stealing of the product of others is despicable. Another responded that this phrase

[Pen-l] Vivek Chibber: The Good Empire

2009-07-05 Thread ravi
Apropos recent discussions of imperialism/colonialism: http://www.bostonreview.net/BR30.1/chibber.html --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] BBC NEWS | US job losses worse than expected

2009-07-02 Thread ravi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8130703.stm The number of jobs lost in the US last month came in at 467,000, which was much more than had been expected. The jobless rate rose to 9.5% in June, from 9.4% in May, as the US economy continued to struggle. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Madoff

2009-06-30 Thread ravi
billion does not disappear into thin air. I was joking. What good would parole do a man as old as Madoff? No kidding. You guys (Peter, and the other chap who responded with an alarmed NO!) are scarily proving that leftists lack clue when it comes to humour!! ;-) --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

2009-06-28 Thread ravi
communicating with him! I don't get this sort of righteousness. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

2009-06-28 Thread ravi
be international in nature. This solidarity involves keeping the US government from sending commandos into other countries, subordinating the IMF/World Bank to international democracy, etc. See, this makes sense. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing

Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

2009-06-27 Thread ravi
of the segments marching against the election results today, a robust opposition to imperialism (in its many forms) seems, just pragmatically speaking, not contradictory but congruent. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu

Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

2009-06-27 Thread ravi
On Jun 28, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:27 PM, ravi wrote: Over on lbo-talk, dismissing an argument using the term anti- imperialist in an ill-reasoned pejorative way has come to pass for serious debate (a luxury of those who have lived on the right side

Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

2009-06-27 Thread ravi
On Jun 28, 2009, at 12:27 AM, ravi wrote: On Jun 28, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:27 PM, ravi wrote: Over on lbo-talk, dismissing an argument using the term anti- imperialist in an ill-reasoned pejorative way has come to pass for serious debate (a luxury

[Pen-l] Re: [lbo-talk] Reviving the DiggLeft project...

2009-06-24 Thread ravi
and split work already underway. MM On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44 AM, ravi r...@platosbeard.org wrote: All, if you do not know what Digg is, it’s a site where people submit links to web pages (often news articles) and others vote these links up or down. Visiting Digg will let you view links

Re: [Pen-l] Unsubscription

2009-06-22 Thread ravi
yourself to not receive email. You will need to know your password, and if you do not, you can ask that it be emailed to you. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Reviving the DiggLeft project...

2009-06-15 Thread ravi
that will not infrequently vote on subsets of links. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Obama and the Iranian elections

2009-06-08 Thread ravi
is driving this finer analysis, all of a sudden! --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] cows slandered!

2009-06-05 Thread ravi
--ravi On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jim Devine jdevin...@gmail.com wrote: New York TIMES / June 5, 2009 Greening the Herds: A New Diet to Cap Gas By LESLIE KAUFMAN HIGHGATE, Vt. — Chewing her cud on a recent sunny morning, Libby, a 1,400-pound Holstein, paused to do her part in the battle

Re: [Pen-l] Macbook Pro: first impressions

2009-06-05 Thread ravi
, at MUPromo (http://mupromo.com/). Also: http://docs.blacktree.com/quicksilver/what_is_quicksilver --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] The Science Arrow of Time

2009-05-29 Thread ravi
to old technologies. The new chips are better in a very specific sense: they can do everything the old chips can and more.. That may not be a good example... remember the RISC craze of the late-80s, early-90s. After all, Moore's Law is not a real law. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] The Science Arrow of Time

2009-05-29 Thread ravi
On May 29, 2009, at 3:59 PM, raghu wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, ravi r...@platosbeard.org wrote: That may not be a good example... remember the RISC craze of the late-80s, early-90s. After all, Moore's Law is not a real law. Yes, but the old CISC chips never went away. The RISC

Re: [Pen-l] Offshore; Food, Inc.

2009-05-28 Thread ravi
On May 28, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: “Offshore” might not be the first movie about Indian call center workers—“Slumdog Millionaire” has that distinction ... I am not sure the above is right. For example, see Outsourced, made in 2006, released 2007. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Offshore; Food, Inc.

2009-05-28 Thread ravi
On May 28, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: ravi wrote: On May 28, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: “Offshore” might not be the first movie about Indian call center workers—“Slumdog Millionaire” has that distinction ... I am not sure the above is right. For example, see Outsourced

Re: [Pen-l] Prostitution

2009-05-27 Thread ravi
(thanks to which today a few can proclaim themselves self-made). I doubt you will find any libertarians and free marketers among cave-dwellers ;-). (*) ask not for whom the bell tolls, it Toll Brothers for thee. ;-) Up ~ 5% yesterday despite bad housing news. --ravi (*) which

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-26 Thread ravi
to be able to see that, so I write this for the record. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-25 Thread ravi
On May 19, 2009, at 5:13 PM, raghu wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:41 PM, ravi r...@platosbeard.org wrote: This thread has already yielded new information and proved its worth to me ;-). Likewise. I had no idea that the prevalence of exploitation in the sex industry was even controversial

Re: [Pen-l] Epigenetics

2009-05-25 Thread ravi
agriculture and unrealistic plan of plant stasis via a faulty concept of gene expression. Doyle, good post. I suspect the point you raise (the attraction that genic determinism holds for commercial exploitation) is also relevant to the success of reductionism. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-19 Thread ravi
. But among human activities, prostitution today surely lies on that part of the line where the human rights violations far outnumber the instances of free choice, don't you think? --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

[Pen-l] Prostitution, poverty, facts, and choice

2009-05-19 Thread ravi
On May 19, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Jim Devine wrote: The way to avoid flame-wars is not to avoid hard topics but to encourage people to respect each others' opinions. And, as I have learnt, change the subject line! ;-) --ravi ___ pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-19 Thread ravi
On May 19, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Shane Mage wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 2:35 PM, ravi wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 1:54 PM, raghu wrote: I mean, doesn't it bother you that there are women in such desperate poverty that they are forced to sell

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-19 Thread ravi
On May 19, 2009, at 4:04 PM, raghu wrote: That's because sex *is* special and not just another form of work. This is so trivially obvious that I am surprised that it is even necessary to point it out. What is trivially obvious is [therefore] grist for non-analysis. ;-) --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] supply demand at work

2009-05-19 Thread ravi
its worth to me ;-). --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Diamond's Question [was: complexity of society

2009-05-17 Thread ravi
as in India. After all, the country was split between a lot of ethnic groups in relatively isolated small territories before the Brits and other Europeans invaded. They likely deepened those splits, but I’ll defer to those who know the place more than I do. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Diamond's Question [was: complexity of society

2009-05-16 Thread ravi
defers to those with greater knowledge of India or words to that effect). --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Epigenetics

2009-05-13 Thread ravi
On May 13, 2009, at 1:40 AM, Doyle Saylor wrote: Nova had a program on the consensus in science research circles arising about genetics that the relatively unchanging genetic code cannot account for 'inherited' diseases 'weaknesses as thought the genetic code would reveal. Ravi turned me

Re: [Pen-l] Epigenetics

2009-05-13 Thread ravi
basis of and pressures on the participants (your second paragraph). --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Thoughts on science, for idiots, from Lewontin

2009-05-11 Thread ravi
On May 8, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Sabri Oncu wrote: --ravi, pen-l useless idiot #1 I am offended Ravi! How dare you claim my #1 position? I apologise! ;-) Any comments on disasters I mentioned earlier? Let me know what you think: do disasters come as Bernoulli or Poisson? Sabri, I dare

[Pen-l] Internet threads and individual preferences

2009-05-10 Thread ravi
blog post I quoted (and with the rest, implicitly, in their omission). Lou might consider me an idiot (or my response idiotic), but I am now finally old enough not to care. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

[Pen-l] ‘How I Sued a Craigslist Sex Troll’

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
to pay fines and damages amounting to about $75k in a case brought against him by a John Doe victim (or victim), interestingly enough more for copyright violation than for violation of privacy, etc: http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/07/how-i-sued-a-craigslist-sex-troll/ --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
that let us not entertain romantic notions. Heck, some of my best friends are women. The new great white father is scientific/materialism. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
On May 8, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: ravi wrote: The new great white father is scientific/materialism. You mean there is no difference between (say) Pinker Summers on the one hand, Levins, Lewontin, Gould on the other? You take your notion of science from the likes of Summers

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
On May 8, 2009, at 6:43 PM, raghu wrote: I think Ravi was objecting to the tyranny of science. Science in the 21'st century has become what the Bible was in the middle ages - the ultimate arbiter of every important question. That's approximately my usual lament, but in this case my point

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
On May 8, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: If ravi wants to argue with the ad executives who make tv ads beginning Science Tells Us, fine - but he shouldmake it clear that he is writing off topic, that what he says is irrelevant to what anyone on this list says. Michael, don't you think

Re: [Pen-l] Jared Diamond and the New Yorker, part 2

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
On May 8, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Doyle Saylor wrote: Greetings Economists, It is obvious from what Ravi wrote he is not saying that. You twist his words. Doyle, thank you for that. I was beginning to question my own sanity! --ravi ___ pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Idiotic responses about threads

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
not just the blogistan that is looking for an echo chamber. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Thoughts on science, for idiots, from Lewontin

2009-05-08 Thread ravi
period of individual socialization and psychic maturation before they become employed as scientists, in a social setting that has a history that constrains thought and action. The state of science should not be confused with the state of the universe. --ravi, pen-l useless idiot #1

Re: [Pen-l] computer problem, maybe someone can help

2009-05-01 Thread ravi
a bunch of such messages for most sites. But I may be wrong on this one. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] By the way

2009-04-30 Thread ravi
On Apr 30, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Max Sawicky wrote: In case nobody noticed, this morning Barack reamed some rentiers. And one of his peeps has the swine flu. The dude really is slumming it. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Steven Rattner: capitalist pig of the month

2009-04-30 Thread ravi
, innit? --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Survey: Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful

2009-04-30 Thread ravi
with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] BBC NEWS | US Supreme Court judge 'retiring'

2009-04-30 Thread ravi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8028185.stm --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Google Now Charts Unemployment And Other Public Data In Search Results

2009-04-29 Thread ravi
Since there are often requests for data and charts based on public data, this might be of interest: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/28/google-now-charts-unemployment-and-other-public-data-in-search-results/ --ravi ___ pen-l mailing

[Pen-l] China’s recovery

2009-04-29 Thread ravi
Link to a BBC blog post that talks about China's recovery and stronger projections (from Goldman chief economist): http://platosbeard.org/archives/419 --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu

Re: [Pen-l] euphemism of the month

2009-04-22 Thread ravi
On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Jim Devine wrote: reallocate their human resources! The British seem to use the term redundant as in I was made redundant. What a horrible euphemism. I would much rather be sacked, laid off, fired, than be made redundant. --ravi On Wed, Apr 22

[Pen-l] Obama reconsidered

2009-04-21 Thread ravi
to the history of the region (Central/South America), but I will take these crumbs, nonetheless. --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

[Pen-l] Identi.ca for Twittering Leftists?

2009-04-21 Thread ravi
use this for ;-), but maybe a good way to quickly share links or news updates with the group. --ravi (*) I am not a big Twitter user, but AFAIK it has no support for groups. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Identi.ca for Twittering Leftists?

2009-04-21 Thread ravi
, and so on. Facebook may be a poor implementation, but the idea I think is here to stay. My idea was for us to experiment with Identi.ca and see what sort of transient information sharing is possible for groups using such a service. --ravi

Re: [Pen-l] Introducing the Obamawatch Lottery

2009-04-14 Thread ravi
his prize. I would like to add $10 to the pool if a panel of impartiality or equally distributed bias can be convened. I think DrDe should be the tie-breaking vote. ;-) --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http

Re: [Pen-l] Introducing the Obamawatch Lottery

2009-04-14 Thread ravi
are against us. ;-) Kidding aside, if Obama does indeed mete out the much advertised dressing down to Israel, even if it is only symbolic, I'd be happy. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have

[Pen-l] BBC | Bomb blows hole in Lenin statue

2009-04-01 Thread ravi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7976883.stm One of Russia's most famous statues of Vladimir Lenin has been bombed, leaving the Bolshevik revolutionary with a gaping hole in his rear. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace

[Pen-l] Wrong Tomorrow - pundits vs. time

2009-04-01 Thread ravi
http://wrongtomorrow.com/ --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org/ ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l

[Pen-l] Freedom Tower becomes China Center?!

2009-03-27 Thread ravi
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/27/no.freedom.tower/index.html?eref=rss_topstories --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org

[Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
/campaign/seal_hunt_09?rk=zp2EmU4aORwbW --ravi ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Jim Devine wrote: Is an effort made to ensure that the seal population is conserved over the years? I don't know about that. In my case, it is an effort to stop brutal unnecessary murder of other living things. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, ravi r

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
. Or do you think I encourage list members to oppose this annual brutality because I am worried about the loss of cuteness? ;-) --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
resources into building new facilities for animal experimentation. Instead, these funds should go into clinical research involving consenting patients, and into developing other methods of research that do not involve the harmful use of animals. --ravi -- Support something

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org/ ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https

Re: [Pen-l] Help Baby Seals Who Are Killed in Canada

2009-03-24 Thread ravi
of the PETA action is to prevent animal suffering. Unless you believe that PETA workers and volunteers sat around and plotted on how they could stick it to the indigenous people and fishermen. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org

[Pen-l] Scorn Trails A.I.G. Executives, Even in Their Driveways - NYTimes.com

2009-03-20 Thread ravi
, he said, the so-called bonuses were in fact just payments that had been promised long ago to workers, including technical and administrative assistants. It's hip to be a worker again! ;-) --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace

Re: [Pen-l] Scorn Trails A.I.G. Executives, Even in Their Driveways - NYTimes.com

2009-03-20 Thread ravi
On Mar 20, 2009, at 3:48 PM, ravi wrote: This one is a hilarious read: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/nyregion/20siege.html?partner=rssemc=rss And ends with a tear-inducing view into the misunderstood suffering millionaire's life: The largest single bonus check, for $6.4 million, went

Re: [Pen-l] Benoit Mandelbrot and the wildness of financial markets: SciAm

2009-03-17 Thread ravi
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Jim Devine wrote: ravi wrote: http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=benoit-mandelbrot-and-the-wildness-2009-03-13 Mandelbrot says that A very large part of economic theory is just physical theory with the words changed. But standard economic

[Pen-l] Government Beyond Obama? - The NYRB

2009-03-17 Thread ravi
. Well-known —but unsupported by statistics and history. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org/ ___ pen

[Pen-l] Benoit Mandelbrot and the wildness of financial markets: SciAm

2009-03-16 Thread ravi
http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=benoit-mandelbrot-and-the-wildness-2009-03-13 --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org

[Pen-l] Leiter Reports: The last poll about philosophers...

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
. Its heart-warming that 3 of the top 5 are mathematicians/logicians and the top one could almost be considered one! Sweet! ;-) --ravi (*) yes I do know his politics. -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org

Re: [Pen-l] How Anthropology Disparages Journalism

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
? Applied anthropologists are more inclined to write an occasional journalistic piece, but it's not viewed as a central focus of applied work. Again, why not become the seasoned journalist? Is this a joke? I don't get it. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA

Re: [Pen-l] Leiter Reports: The last poll about philosophers...

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
Russell (my #2). A more coherent and less oedipal Wittgenstein might have come close, perhaps, but given that he never really explained his Cambridge lectures and adequately responded to the issues raised by Turing, he falls behind Frege and Quine, in my list. --ravi, humble wannabe

Re: [Pen-l] Leiter Reports: The last poll about philosophers...

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
On Mar 10, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Jeffrey Fisher wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, ravi r...@platosbeard.org wrote: A more coherent and less oedipal Wittgenstein might have come close, oh, you mean Anscombe, then? ;-) ;-) I must confess I don't know much Anscombe other than that she

[Pen-l] Central planning?

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
for call centers and BPO? ;-) (I kid because I can... its like using the N word). --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org

Re: [Pen-l] Leiter Reports: The last poll about philosophers...

2009-03-10 Thread ravi
the footnotes to Plato, and returned philosophy to the people. --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org/ ___ pen-l

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