Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Michael Perelman wrote: The Sacramento Bee reports the giant California Public Employees' Retirement System is planning to use some of its money to invest in infrastructure, which is, of course, privatized infrastructure.

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, remember Calpers was at the forefront of the shareholder revolution, pushing downsizing and outsourcing (not directly of course, but that was the result). When I interviewed their chief investment officer about 15 years ago and asked him

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Jim Devine wrote: On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, remember Calpers was at the forefront of the shareholder revolution, pushing downsizing and outsourcing (not directly of course, but that was the result). When I interviewed their chief

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not just the PF's charter - it's the law. That's why there's only so much you can do with pension fund socialism, ha ha. But it would have been interesting to hear this dude reflect on the irony. He didn't even try. he was a hired gun,

[PEN-L] ccia u.s. fair use economy

2007-09-13 Thread Sean Andrews
[from the cultural studies listserve. Sorry for crossposting, but this seemed like a document that would be of interest to people on these lists. I'd be interested in comments people have on it. I mentioned on the other list that I think the cost/benefit approach to this is hiding much more

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Jim Devine wrote: On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not just the PF's charter - it's the law. That's why there's only so much you can do with pension fund socialism, ha ha. But it would have been interesting to hear this dude reflect on the

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Actually, I was thinking of your work when posting this, but I did not have the reference. On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 08:51:04AM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Michael Perelman wrote: The Sacramento Bee reports the giant California Public Employees' Retirement System

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread ken hanly
They are just following the rules of ethical investing according to Milton Friedman! Is there any attempt by the union membership to exert any control over the investment process so that this sort of thing does not happen? Cheers, ken hanly --- Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Some of the state employees are union members, but not all. Some would want to follow Friedman, but others not. PERS has resisted investing in bad places (Sudan) and in bad products (cigarettes), so it is not consistent. On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 07:57:05AM -0700, ken hanly wrote: They are

Re: [PEN-L] Public Employees for Privatization

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:57 AM, ken hanly wrote: Is there any attempt by the union membership to exert any control over the investment process so that this sort of thing does not happen? There are attempts, but U.S. law is very strict on what can be done. People who've worked on those sorts of

Re: [PEN-L] Individualisms

2007-09-13 Thread Sandwichman
On 9/12/07, Shane Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, as Trotsky put it: Everyone acts differently when tickled by a feather. When touched by a red-hot poker they all behave identically. Is a play on Tolstoy's line that all happy families are alike but each unhappy family is unhappy in its

Re: [PEN-L] Individualisms

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
Shane Mage wrote: add 6-dialectical -All action by a biological organism is individual action, interaction between concrete environmental situations and concrete individually distinctive propensities. -All groups of individual organisms act, in a statistically average way, according to

Re: [PEN-L] Individualisms

2007-09-13 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Jim Devine wrote: That's right, but individualisms assume we are all different. Doyle; I would presume individualism really is about how connection works. The legal apparatus in capitalism of course protects capitalists as individuals. And

[PEN-L] Fwd: IMPORTANT: Manifesto to the Bolivian People from indigenous, social and popular movements

2007-09-13 Thread michael a. lebowitz
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[PEN-L] Democrats lie to prolong war

2007-09-13 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/13/3806/ The War Party: Democrats Lie to Prolong Iraq; Reporters Go Along by Ted Rall Americans don’t know how their government works. Democrats, in control of Congress, are taking advantage of our ignorance to continue the Iraq War. Which brings up

[PEN-L] Is a Jewish Glasnost Coming to America?

2007-09-13 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
Is a Jewish Glasnost Coming to America? Despite a Backlash, Many Jews Are Questioning Israel By Tony Karon First, a confession: It may tell me that I hate myself, but I can't help loving Masada2000, the website maintained by militant right-wing Zionist followers of Rabbi Meir Kahane. The reason I

[PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Eugene Coyle
Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. Gene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle wrote: Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. Gene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
Maybe he doesn't rely on anyone... On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle wrote: Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. Gene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Eugene Coyle
Look at the tiny photo. Gene Coyle On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:57 PM, The Buffalo In Da' Midst wrote: Maybe he doesn't rely on anyone... On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Gar Lipow
On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at the tiny photo. No tiny photo in my copy. Maybe stripped out.

[PEN-L] Y Kant Ryun Crockr Do Economiks?

2007-09-13 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
In the first couple years after the invasion, he adds, one of the 'good news' stories was always the number of cell towers built and phones sold. TPMuckraker (They've got muck. We've got rakes.) Y Kant Ryun Crockr Do Economiks By Spencer Ackerman - September 13, 2007, 3:31 PM I don't have half

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Eugene Coyle
Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo which none of you are receiving anyway. Gene Coyle On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Jim Devine wrote: Eugene Coyle wrote: Look at the tiny photo. Did this message pass through some content-removal filter? -- Jim Devine /

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
If it's on the web, send a link. On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo which none of you are receiving anyway. Gene Coyle On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Jim Devine wrote: Eugene Coyle wrote: Look at the tiny

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
Gene, can you tell us the point? whose picture is it? (some hippie with a guitar?) On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo which none of you are receiving anyway. Gene Coyle Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia

[PEN-L] Child mortality 'at record low'

2007-09-13 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk/ Last Updated: Thursday, 13 September 2007 Child mortality 'at record low' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6992401.stm [Millions of lives have been saved by immunisation, Unicef says] Fewer children under the age of five are dying, thanks to immunisation

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
On 9/13/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whose picture is it? (some hippie with a guitar?) Moi? http://www.leighm.net/images/me_sm2.jpg

Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

2007-09-13 Thread Eugene Coyle
Yeah, something like that, but a bit more personal. Let me propose this. So as to not burden the list, I will forward it to those who request it of me -- off list is probably better. And I'll start by sending it to you in a few minutes. Gene On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

[PEN-L] NYTimes editors cover Bush

2007-09-13 Thread Eugene Coyle
This morning on the electronic NY Times there was a report that a US ally, a Sunni Arab leader, Sheik Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi has been killed in Anbar province. Bush met the Sheik on his recent visit, and the Times showed a photo of a grinning Bush shaking hands with him. The photo

[PEN-L] Brit Zionist group disinvites Ha'aretz columnist

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Henwood
[I said the other day to our libertarian friend that you could comb the U.S. press for anything as remotely critical of Israel as you see in Ha'aretz. Here's a nice example from our friends across the sea.] http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/ 20070831rubinsteinapartheid.html

[PEN-L] Thomas Ricks blogs Bush speech

2007-09-13 Thread Louis Proyect
Ricks is the Washington Post reporter who wrote Fiasco. As the title implies, it is about the war in Iraq. He posted numerous times during the course of Bush's speech. His last entry is telling: Posted at 9:24 PM ET, 09/13/2007 You and What Army? Sen. Reed said that sticking around in Iraq for

[PEN-L] speaking of academic repression...

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
[Here's a LAT story about political repression against (get this) a liberal! As far as I know, he's never even mentioned Israel. It's unclear as yet exactly what forces pushed the University of California-Irvine's chancellor to fire him. Maybe it's the old John Birch Society influence down there

Re: [PEN-L] speaking of academic repression...

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Perelman
What does it mean when controversy becomes forbidden? Don't they have a name for such a state? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com

[PEN-L] A Tale of Two Unions

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Perelman
California has two very active unions -- the Nurses and the Prison Guards -- each uses a different form of politics and a different form of caring. The nurses have done heroic work in forcing Governor Arnold to allow for sufficient staffing of hospitals. They have won significant political

Re: [PEN-L] speaking of academic repression...

2007-09-13 Thread Perelman, Michael
I thought Bob Dornan was gone. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Devine Sent: Thursday, September 13,

Re: [PEN-L] speaking of academic repression...

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Devine
On 9/13/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does it mean when controversy becomes forbidden? Don't they have a name for such a state? Orange County. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.