Re: [PEN-L] The race factor among white voters

2008-02-09 Thread Leigh Meyers
Said race was important as it sits is a useless question that could only garner useless answers, and a Soc 1 student would know better than to present it on a survey with that wording. Was there a methodology presented that would give some insight as to what they intended by this question. Even

[PEN-L] Dynamism danger: Obama - Financial Times

2008-02-09 Thread Leigh Meyers
The American left understand American exceptionalism, the way a rat 'understands' the bait in a trap. Each of his three central messages is as old as the Republic – the promise of bipartisanship (to put an end to the bickering and the partisan ways of Washington), an ethical foreign policy (to

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

2008-02-09 Thread Matthijs Krul
One can say that Al Sharpton carries some real baggage, but what is the primary baggage that Jesse carries relative to Obama? Jesse is divisive *because* he represents black demands for equality. --ravi Well, black voters have turned out in vast numbers, and the overwhelming

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

2008-02-09 Thread Carrol Cox
Matthijs Krul wrote: One can say that Al Sharpton carries some real baggage, but what is the primary baggage that Jesse carries relative to Obama? Jesse is divisive *because* he represents black demands for equality. --ravi Well, black voters have turned out in vast

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

2008-02-09 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: Young voters turned out for Howard Dean with great enthusiasm, yet he was a pretty conservative governor. Obama is absolutely correct. Voting is about hope, but the hopes are sure to be dashed. All it takes is a nice delivery, some focus groups, a good

[PEN-L] Long-living healthy people cost more than the obese, smokers

2008-02-09 Thread Leigh Meyers
The True Cost of staying healthy... You are a burden on society: Lung cancer is a cheap disease to treat because people don't survive very long, van Baal said. But if they are old enough to get Alzheimer's one day, they may survive longer and cost more. The Barre-Montpelier Times Argus

[PEN-L] Economists As Bullying Witch Doctors

2008-02-09 Thread Michael Perelman
Esther-Mirjam Sent has a work in progress regarding how Herbert Simon made an ass of himself in debating with progressive mathematicians, who did not approve of Samuel Huntington joining the National Academy of Sciences. She included two wonderful quotes from one of the mathematicians, Neal