Re: [PEN-L] Hofstadter on the Prisoner's Dilemma

2007-08-06 Thread ken hanly
Well individual rationality as ordinarily defined means that one will try to maximise ones individual utility. To do this one must co-operate in the PD one shot situation. Hoftstadter's super-rationality is not really any different than the traditional rationality in fact others come to the same

Re: [PEN-L] Hofstadter on the Prisoner's Dilemma

2007-08-06 Thread Jim Devine
I'll let someone who's an expert in game theory answer this. Gil? On 8/6/07, ken hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well individual rationality as ordinarily defined means that one will try to maximise ones individual utility. To do this one must co-operate in the PD one shot situation.

Re: [PEN-L] Hofstadter on the Prisoner's Dilemma

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Devine
this doesn't contradict the basic point of the PD story, as I understand it: it says that individual rationality (as usually defined) isn't really rational, i.e., doesn't produce the best results for the individuals involved. On 8/4/07, ken hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the type of

[PEN-L] Hofstadter on the Prisoner's Dilemma

2007-08-04 Thread ken hanly
Here is the type of non-standard solution to the Prisoner's Dilemma that I had in mind by Douglas Hofstadter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma [edit] Rationality and super-rationality One resolution of the dilemma proposed by Douglas Hofstadter in his Metamagical Themas is to reject