[PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-19 Thread Charles Brown
LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path From: John Gulick JG sez: I wince at the suggestion that I'm in the same league

[PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-19 Thread Charles Brown
On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:03 PM, ravi wrote: Doug questioned the guys credibility by calling Fox News polemical genius and other such stuff They are geniuses of polemic. That's a completely noncontroversial statement. I'm almost embarrassed by the obviousness of it, in fact. Let me relieve your

[PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-19 Thread Charles Brown
LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:03 PM, ravi wrote: Doug questioned the guys credibility by calling Fox News polemical genius and other such stuff They are geniuses of polemic. That's a completely noncontroversial statement. I'm almost embarrassed by

[PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread John Gulick
I have a few words for Doug, Louis, and you too John... Simple-minded Vicious Assholes. Simple-minded? No, in fact I was set off (and I suspect so too were Doug and Louis, but I'm not their mouthpiece) by Eric's consistently demonstrated simple-mindedness, his repeated insistence that one can

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Leigh has left the list. I mentioned that I thought that Lou's first comment was a bit too harsh. I would have hoped that we could have learned something from Eric; that he could have moved beyond boilerplate engaged with John G. Marty. I am not sure that that could have happened. --

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Leigh has left the list. I mentioned that I thought that Lou's first comment was a bit too harsh. I would have hoped that we could have learned something from Eric; that he could have moved beyond boilerplate engaged with John G. Marty. I am not sure that that could have happened. --

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Michael Perelman
You may be right. On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 08:43:27PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: It is actually not in very good form to subscribe to a mailing list and begin posting long provocative essays right off the bat. He would have been better off easing into the discussion. Frankly, I don't think he

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread ravi
On Feb 18, 2008, at 7:27 PM, John Gulick wrote: (Unfortunately characters like this, who no matter their well-meaning guise are not capable of Socratic dialogue, frequent Louis' list and he can smell them coming from a mile away.) Socratic dialogue! That's a new one! Its a good term though

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread ravi
On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: You may be right. No, he is not. Michael, with all respect (to you and to LP), this is all guesswork on what he was interested in or not. And as Gulick's response demonstrates, there was no attempt to productively engage him, but quite the

[PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread John Gulick
MP posted: I would have hoped that we could have learned something from Eric; that he could have moved beyond boilerplate engaged with John G. Marty. I am not sure that that could have happened. JG sez: I wince at the suggestion that I'm in the same league as Marty when it comes to the

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Henwood
On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:03 PM, ravi wrote: Doug questioned the guys credibility by calling Fox News polemical genius and other such stuff They are geniuses of polemic. That's a completely noncontroversial statement. I'm almost embarrassed by the obviousness of it, in fact. Doug

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread John Gulick
(Unfortunately characters like this, who no matter their well-meaning guise are not capable of Socratic dialogue frequent Louis' list and he can smell them coming from a mile away.)Socratic dialogue! That's a new one! Its a good term though -- single-dimensional attack on the side of

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread ravi
On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:03 PM, ravi wrote: Doug questioned the guys credibility by calling Fox News polemical genius and other such stuff They are geniuses of polemic. That's a completely noncontroversial statement. I'm almost embarrassed by

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:20 PM, ravi wrote: I believe they are geniuses of nothing, even if they tend to offer the polemical, unless of course we consider success a sole measure of genius. i.e., Fox News is successful at riling up the obvious suspects and the cheapest

Re: [PEN-L] LM leaving list for a while/China's socialist path

2008-02-18 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:03 PM, John Gulick wrote: who brings more clutter than enlightenment to left-wing maillists. Doyle; Many Lists seem to function on the principle of argument and perhaps long threads with a lot of detail. What's the purpose? In most cases there is