Re: [Pen-l] Re: Politico: Summers may be off of Treasury short list
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Julio Huato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug wrote: The test would be if he picked someone displeasing to big capital, which just won't happen. Test of what? Are we testing whether Obama is a true communist or not? Or whether he is a true feminist or not? Obama is a socialist. Joe the plumber (a worker, ergo someone with a worker's consciousness) told me so. -- Sandwichman ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
Re: [Pen-l] Re: Politico: Summers may be off of Treasury short list
Julio Huato wrote: Test of what? Are we testing whether Obama is a true communist or not? Or whether he is a true feminist or not? How about true liberal in the sense of George McGovern or even Jimmy Carter (in some respects)? What's obvious now is that he is a true Clintonite. Frankly, if Hillary had been elected, you'd see the same people and the same policies Obama is pushing. As her husband once said, we are all Eisenhower Republicans. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
Re: [Pen-l] Re: Politico: Summers may be off of Treasury short list
On Nov 14, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: How about true liberal in the sense of George McGovern or even Jimmy Carter (in some respects)? What's obvious now is that he is a true Clintonite. I still think it is too early to say... we should consider the simple possibility that Obama is a young, non-pedigreed (in blue blood sense) -- and yet a product of the meritocracy (in the Harvard sense) -- black man who has been (even against his wishes) cast as a Messiah by his followers while at the same time subject to the return of naked racism and bigotry ... and with this baggage, I would assume, comes a sense of great trepidation and uncertainty, which manifests itself in the grim, clipped style of speech and expression, the progressive step forward followed by a turnaround to safer ground. BTW, Carrol's post on movements and individuals was absolutely brilliant. I call for a Henwood mediated and moderated debate on Obama between Proyect and Huato somewhere in the city or surroundings! Keyboard leftists such as this author are in sore need of direction! --ravi -- Support something better than yourself ;-) PeTA = http://peta.org/ Greenpeace = http://greenpeace.org/ If you have nothing better to read: http://platosbeard.org/ ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
Re: [Pen-l] Re: Politico: Summers may be off of Treasury short list
ravi wrote: I still think it is too early to say... we should consider the simple possibility that Obama is a young, non-pedigreed (in blue blood sense) -- and yet a product of the meritocracy (in the Harvard sense) -- black man who has been (even against his wishes) cast as a Messiah by his followers while at the same time subject to the return of naked racism and bigotry ... and with this baggage, I would assume, comes a sense of great trepidation and uncertainty, which manifests itself in the grim, clipped style of speech and expression, the progressive step forward followed by a turnaround to safer ground. Actually, his later memoir made explicit that he wanted to emulate Bill Clinton. ___ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
