Re: Sending simple email
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Roderick A. Anderson raand...@cyber-office.net [2009-06-06T17:50:13] Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org [2009-06-06T11:34:29] I see the recommendation to use Email::Sender, but are there docs available? You have sent this message at an excellent time! Email::Sender::Simple is potentially done, and I've written a quickstart guide, just last night. OK I'm hooked. How much more potential is there? :-) I think I've nearly got all our internal features into Simple. One that didn't make it is the archiver, which I will release later as a subclass of Simple. It basically says after send_email, send AGAIN to ANOTHER transport, but throw away any failure. We use this to keep a copy of all the automated messages we send out without having to write code to do so explicitly. Interesting idea. So far those that receive the messages either save a copy themselves or delete them. I've been trying for a good and simple way to send email from Windows and Linux systems. So E:S:S looks like it would fill the bill. In fact I think I've tried and used (with differing success) Email::Sender and friends but never came up with a consistent tool/method that worked for both OS'. The current dev release of Simple doesn't yet try to use Sendmail transport, it just starts with SMTP. The next release will try Sendmail first, and fall back to SMTP. I need to look at this some more. Most of the time these reports/notifications try not to use the local transport. They use SMTP on another (email) system. Real life experience with using it welcome! Well real life with have to be testing for real life until I know they work but I'm going to do some of that testing stuff later today. \\||/ Rod --
Re: Sending simple email
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org [2009-06-06T11:34:29] I see the recommendation to use Email::Sender, but are there docs available? You have sent this message at an excellent time! Email::Sender::Simple is potentially done, and I've written a quickstart guide, just last night. OK I'm hooked. How much more potential is there? :-) I've been trying for a good and simple way to send email from Windows and Linux systems. So E:S:S looks like it would fill the bill. In fact I think I've tried and used (with differing success) Email::Sender and friends but never came up with a consistent tool/method that worked for both OS'. \\||/ Rod -- http://rjbs.manxome.org/tmp/QuickStart.html I tend to either send plain text or html formatted messages. If I send an html messages and I don't also have a plain text version I want to extract text and links from the html to make a plain text part. You might like the BBC's Email::MIME::CreateHTML: Email-MIME-CreateHTML I think it does everything you want.
Re: Sending simple email
* Roderick A. Anderson raand...@cyber-office.net [2009-06-06T17:50:13] Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org [2009-06-06T11:34:29] I see the recommendation to use Email::Sender, but are there docs available? You have sent this message at an excellent time! Email::Sender::Simple is potentially done, and I've written a quickstart guide, just last night. OK I'm hooked. How much more potential is there? :-) I think I've nearly got all our internal features into Simple. One that didn't make it is the archiver, which I will release later as a subclass of Simple. It basically says after send_email, send AGAIN to ANOTHER transport, but throw away any failure. We use this to keep a copy of all the automated messages we send out without having to write code to do so explicitly. I've been trying for a good and simple way to send email from Windows and Linux systems. So E:S:S looks like it would fill the bill. In fact I think I've tried and used (with differing success) Email::Sender and friends but never came up with a consistent tool/method that worked for both OS'. The current dev release of Simple doesn't yet try to use Sendmail transport, it just starts with SMTP. The next release will try Sendmail first, and fall back to SMTP. Real life experience with using it welcome! -- rjbs
Re: Sending simple email
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:01:40PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org [2009-06-06T11:34:29] I see the recommendation to use Email::Sender, but are there docs available? You have sent this message at an excellent time! Email::Sender::Simple is potentially done, and I've written a quickstart guide, just last night. http://rjbs.manxome.org/tmp/QuickStart.html Looks pretty good. Thanks. Any plans to add simple attachments? Like I mentioned, one of the more common tasks for apps I work on seem to be attaching pdfs and spreadsheets. I tend to either send plain text or html formatted messages. If I send an html messages and I don't also have a plain text version I want to extract text and links from the html to make a plain text part. You might like the BBC's Email::MIME::CreateHTML: Email-MIME-CreateHTML I think it does everything you want. I looked at that and I don't think it will create the plain text version automatically from the html, but I'll take a look again. Thanks, -- Bill Moseley. mose...@hank.org Sent from my iMutt
Re: Sending simple email
* Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org [2009-06-07T19:07:34] On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:01:40PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: You have sent this message at an excellent time! Email::Sender::Simple is potentially done, and I've written a quickstart guide, just last night. http://rjbs.manxome.org/tmp/QuickStart.html Looks pretty good. Thanks. Any plans to add simple attachments? Like I mentioned, one of the more common tasks for apps I work on seem to be attaching pdfs and spreadsheets. Well, Email::Sender doesn't deal with attachments at all. It doesn't know what's in your message, beyond *maybe* looking at the to/from headers. Attachment stuff is all handled by Email::MIME. Can you give me an idea what the Perl you want to write would look like? You might like the BBC's Email::MIME::CreateHTML: Email-MIME-CreateHTML I think it does everything you want. I looked at that and I don't think it will create the plain text version automatically from the html, but I'll take a look again. You're right, oops. In these circumstances I do one of three things: a) shell out to w3m (ugh!) b) only write the plaintext part, in Markdown, and use that to generate both (see http://search.cpan.org/dist/Email-MIME-Kit-Assembler-Markdown) c) use HTML::FormatText::WithLinks -- rjbs
Re: Sending simple email
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 07:28:13PM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
Well, Email::Sender doesn't deal with attachments at all. It doesn't know
what's in your message, beyond *maybe* looking at the to/from headers.
Attachment stuff is all handled by Email::MIME.
Can you give me an idea what the Perl you want to write would look like?
Well, Mail::Sender has something close. I haven't used that module
before but it looks like this:
$sender-MailFile({
to = $to,
cc = $cc,
subject = 'May 2009 Monthly Report',
msg = 'Attached is the report you requested.',
file= $spreadsheet_filename,
});
But, I don't think it does any MIME detection of the file.
That's a bit tricky -- MIME::Types or File::LibMagic could be used.
It's pretty simplistic, but probably a large percentage of email would
be handled by that. Everything (except subject) takes a scalar or an
array ref.
--
Bill Moseley.
mose...@hank.org
Sent from my iMutt
