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2006-03-14 Thread Jos Boumans
chromatic chromatic at wgz.org writes: Bogus to me is cannot install a dependency because, for all I can tell, the tester has a space somewhere in a directory name somewhere in the path to Perl and the tester's operating system and command shell just can't cope with this. That's well

Re: Erroneous CPAN Testers Reports

2006-03-14 Thread demerphq
On 3/14/06, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just that the reporting system has a very limited view of what should be stamped green, and what should be stamped red. I've never like such breakdowns. Even adding only one more state/color can make it a lot easier to interpret a result

Re: Erroneous CPAN Testers Reports

2006-03-14 Thread Adam Kennedy
Even better would be adding two more states so that you can distinguish between prereq-failure, build-failure, test-failure and ok. Well actually I tried to sit down the other day and work out how many distinct types of success/failure events there might be, for use in PITA. The number

Re: Erroneous CPAN Testers Reports

2006-03-14 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 23:04:02 +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: Even better would be adding two more states so that you can distinguish between prereq-failure, build-failure, test-failure and ok. Well actually I tried to sit down the other day and work out how many distinct types of

Re: Erroneous CPAN Testers Reports

2006-03-14 Thread demerphq
On 3/14/06, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even better would be adding two more states so that you can distinguish between prereq-failure, build-failure, test-failure and ok. Well actually I tried to sit down the other day and work out how many distinct types of success/failure

RE: Erroneous CPAN Testers Reports

2006-03-14 Thread Jerry D. Hedden
Adam Kennedy wrote: Part of the problem comes in defining bogus. This is a red herring. Consider the original proposal: If a tester sends in a 'updated' report (matching all the appropriate criteria), then the update should overwrite/mask the original. There is no need to define the criteria

New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread David Landgren
Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions! I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these, I like being about to go to the build directory and p(aw|ore) through the eg/

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Steve Peters
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:52:18PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions! I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these, I like

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Adam Kennedy
David Landgren wrote: Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions! I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these, I like being about to go to the build directory and

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Tels
Moin, David Landgren wrote: Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions! I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these, I like being about to go to the build directory

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread David Golden
Adam Kennedy wrote: For all those component distributions I consider it a failure if it is so complex that you need something more than just three or four lines from the SYNOPSIS. Maybe there should be a Kwalitee metric for the length of the synopsis? :-) Regards, David Golden

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread David Landgren
Steve Peters wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:52:18PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: [...] /eg scripts are a nice hands-on way of finding out how a module works in real life. No distribution should be without one! Unless, of course, it has an examples/ directory, which would cause the

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:48:52PM -0500, David Golden wrote: Adam Kennedy wrote: For all those component distributions I consider it a failure if it is so complex that you need something more than just three or four lines from the SYNOPSIS. Maybe there should be a Kwalitee metric for the

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread David Landgren
Tels wrote: Moin, My modules are usually so feature crammed that they need a few examples for showing what you can all do with it or to enable the user oto use the modul without having to write/use perl code first. Plus, the code cut and pasted from Synopses winds up with 8 space leading

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:52:18 +0100, David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions! I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these,

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-14 19:05]: Plus, the code cut and pasted from Synopses winds up with 8 space leading indents or whatever, that you have to strip out and/or you forget to turn off vi's auto indenting so you have this massive staircase effect and the last line starts at

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-14 16:55]: No distribution should be without one! Proc::Fork would definitely not benefit from an eg/ directory. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Steve Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /eg scripts are a nice hands-on way of finding out how a module works in real life. No distribution should be without one! Unless, of course, it has an examples/ directory, which would cause the kwalitee test to fail. ;) I do think its a good

Re: New kwalitee metric - eg/ directory

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Tyler MacDonald wrote: Well so far the only ones I've seen are eg, examples, and from that renegade GD::Graph, samples. And from that eccentric Acme::Bleach, demo. /-\ On yahoo!7 Avatars: Dress up like your

Re: Activestate and Scalar-List-Utils

2006-03-14 Thread Steve Peters
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:12:43PM -0500, David Golden wrote: So back at the beginning of February, there was some email traffic about how ActiveState's automated PPM build system was using an outdated version of Scalar-List-Utils, which was causing a cascading prerequisite failure for many

Re: Activestate and Scalar-List-Utils

2006-03-14 Thread Tyler MacDonald
David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So back at the beginning of February, there was some email traffic about how ActiveState's automated PPM build system was using an outdated version of Scalar-List-Utils, which was causing a cascading prerequisite failure for many distributions. Has

Re: Activestate and Scalar-List-Utils

2006-03-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Golden wrote: Steve Peters wrote: The problem was that newer Scalar-List-Utils uses an internal Perl function that Windows does not see as an exported function. This was changed with Perl 5.8.8. Once ActiveState releases a Perl 5.8.8, they should be able to upgrade the version of

Re: Activestate and Scalar-List-Utils

2006-03-14 Thread David Golden
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: It's not that simple a problem, exactly. The PPM build servers are all running one the first ActivePerl release for that platform. That way, forward binary compatibility can be guaranteed going forward. I wondered if that was the cause of it. Still, that means

RE: Activestate and Scalar-List-Utils

2006-03-14 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, David Golden wrote: Steve Peters wrote: The problem was that newer Scalar-List-Utils uses an internal Perl function that Windows does not see as an exported function. This was changed with Perl 5.8.8. Once ActiveState releases a Perl 5.8.8, they should be able to