Devel::Cover - what do the numbers mean ?

2003-10-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have just used Devel::Cover successfully for the first time. I even got the HTML pages. Great! But what are those numbers and colors in the columns ? I could not find in the documentation. Please point me to the description if it is available somewhere. thanks Gabor

Re: Devel::Cover - what do the numbers mean ?

2003-10-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:00:33PM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: But what are those numbers and colors in the columns ? I could not find in the documentation. Please point me to the description if it is available somewhere. Percentage of the code

Re: tesing exceptions of Error.pm

2003-11-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Andy Lester wrote: How am I going to test this ? Take a look at Test::Warn for warnings, and Test::Exception for errors. I think qa.perl.org needs a listing of Test::* modules so that people know what's available.

Re: Testing complex web site

2004-01-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Adrian Howard wrote: On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 06:10 pm, Gabor Szabo wrote: If this is OT, please point me to some better place to find an answer. [snip] Not OT in my opinion, but you also might want to try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces

Re: Testing complex web site

2004-01-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Ed Summers wrote: If you are testing from the cmd line One of the prime problems of my customers is the fact that I don't give them a nice GUI for the test tool where they can click. the nice thing about Perl's testing framework is that it would be feasible to write C#

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Devel::Cover 0.41

2004-04-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
Where would we be without your work ? Out in the desert to fall prey to any bug ? At least we can run and get some cover. Thank you ! Gabor

reporting bugs to RT

2004-05-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is there some command line tool that can be used to report bugs to RT ? Something that after I saw that make test fails (or even if it just prints warnings) I can type some command line magic and will submit a bug report with all the relevant information including the output of make test.

Re: reporting bugs to RT

2004-05-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Andy Lester wrote: On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 11:40:32PM -0200, Gabor Szabo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there some command line tool that can be used to report bugs to RT ? Sure, it's called sendmail. If you want to send a bug on Test::Harness, send an email to [EMAIL

Re: Devel::Cover: completing $x{foo} ||= 1 conditions

2004-05-22 Thread Gabor Szabo
purple I might like to signal Devel::Cover that func() has a constant return (or lack thereof). however, in the process of development we are required to analyze any of the inevitable gaps and decide whether the unhit condition is valid. if it is we write a test for it. if it

how to run test.pl before the t/*.t tests ?

2004-06-18 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am dealing with a module which has a test.pl using Test.pm Specifically I am talking about HTML::Template for which I try to act as a hoplite. I am trying to add a bunch of tests in t/ using Test::More but in order to make sure we don't lose any previous test we would like to keep the test.pl

Re: Single Sign-on Re: Perl Passport?

2004-07-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Oliver Schnarchendorf wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:12:16 +0800, Kelvin Wu wrote: dunno whether this is the right place to post, but i am looking for a solution(for both win32 and linux), something like microsoft passport, one login account can be used cross over domain

Devel::Cover on Windows, ppm anyone ?

2004-07-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
I can see from the testers page that Devel::Cover is supposed to work on Windows. Is there a ppd distribution of it somewhere so I can install it on ActivePerl without a compiler ? Currently if I type ppm install Devel::Cover I get version 0.2 of Devel::Coverage. Not what I wanted. Gabor

RE: Devel::Cover on Windows, ppm anyone ?

2004-07-16 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Jan Dubois wrote: I've forwarded your message to our build engineer to look into. Please send questions about PPM build process to the ppm mailing list (it only accepts messages from subscribers though). Thanks everyone for dealing with this. I hope we'll see DC built

Re: CPANTS preview - coverage in CPAN testers reports

2004-07-24 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Thomas Klausner wrote: - Test coverage. Impossibly, because CPANTS does not run code. But it could fetch it from some other place that does it, right ? What about adding (optional) coverage reports to the reports the CPAN testers send in ? Gabor

testing script using Term::ReadLine

2004-11-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have a script using Term::ReadLine to get input. I'd like to test it by executing it using another script and providing answers from the script test script. I tried IPC::Run with no success but as I notice even simple redirection such as input.pl in.txt does not work. Any ideas how to

Re: WWW::Mechanize 1.08 fails on some tests

2004-12-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Michael G Schwern wrote: At least when *I* try to access Google with a browser I don't see such a link. I do see such a link but its possible Google is showing you a different page because you're coming from .il. yes, that might be the case. This brings me to the question, or

Coverage testing of web application

2005-03-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
So far I have been using Devel::Cover only in cases where I run code to be analyzed directly. I wonder how should I setup Devel::Cover to test a web application while my test suit is actually using WWW::Mechanize and I am exercising the relevant code via a real web server? How to check the

Re: Phalanx

2005-03-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:45:23 -0600, Walter Goulet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Ok, so I've been trying to get started with testing Net-SSLeay for the Phalanx project. Now the problem I've been having is getting my arms around how to improve the coverage of the tests included with that

Binary distributions

2006-01-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
Why do we need to reinvent this wheel ? Most of the platforms out there have some binary packaging system. Solaris has their own, Linuxen have rpm/deb or whatever else they have. ActiveState with its binary Perl distributions have ppm and while that's not perfect we read that they are working on

Warnings during test

2006-03-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
When installing a module ( in this case Sub-Uplevel-0.09 on 5.8.8) using CPANPLUS I saw many warnings passing by but as all the tests were successful the report to the CPAN Testers was sent as PASS. it would be useful to capture warnings printed on the screen and then even somehow report this

W3C validator

2006-05-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
I must be missing something but I don't understand why is there no module that would provide the W3C validation without hitting http://validator.w3.org and without the need to setup a similar web site? WWW::CheckSite::Validator uses that web site WebService::Validator::HTML::W3C provides an

Re: W3C validator

2006-05-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
I checked it again, one can download the source code of their service from here http://validator.w3.org/source/ and it is even packaged in some of the linux distros. (It is of course slightly outdated on Debian) Someone might want to write a wrapper around it or maybe use

Using Perl in QA departments

2006-06-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
If anybody is interested on this list, the slides and the examples of my 2 days course are available here: http://www.szabgab.com/perl_in_test_automation.html regards Gabor

Re: Using Perl in QA departments

2006-06-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 6/25/06, Ian Langworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks a little familiar.. Great job! I first wrote it about 2 years ago but only recently decide to make it available to the general public. I decided to do so now so it won't come out after the Big Perl Testing Book you mentioned in here:

Re: Using Perl in QA departments

2006-06-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 6/26/06, Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really neat. You might want to add a link to Test::Expect too, which makes it almost to easy to test terminal-based programs. I only recently saw Test::Expect, I'll look at it more deeply and will include a set of examples using it as

check if all the links on an HTML page are working (except the mailto links)

2006-07-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
Using Test::WWW::Mechanize 1.10 I am trying to $w-page_links_ok(); on a page that has an e-mail address in it and the test fails. How could I tell TWM not to bother with the mailto links on the page? Gabor

WWW::Mechanize 1.18 passing value of submit field

2006-07-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
On a form the submit button looks like this: input type=submit name=submit value=Update / when this form is submitted using $w-submit_form ( fields = { fname = 'Foo', }); the field submit and its value Update does not seem to be sent to web server. If I add

Re: WWW::Mechanize 1.18 passing value of submit field

2006-07-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I fix this? WWW::Mechanize(3pm) $mech-submit_form( ... ) This method lets you select a form from the previously fetched page, fill in its fields, and submit it. It combines the form_number/form_name,

Re: WWW::Mechanize 1.18 passing value of submit field

2006-07-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/11/06, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 11, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: If button is not passed, then the submit() method is used instead. Perhaps it could be clearer then: submit() does not pass any button unless you specify it. Yes maybe that, in addition

fetching module version from the command line

2006-07-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
While checking if the versions of all the modules are as required in our installation I am using the following one liner to fetch the version numbers. perl -MModule -e'print $Module::VERSION' Some of the modules print extra error messages and some print only error messages. I have sent e-mail

Testing code that forks

2006-07-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi all, what is the current best practices for testing code that forks? I saw there was a recent discussion about patching Test::More to support forking. Is that going to happen or are there better ways to do it? Gabor

Re: Lessons from the test function parameter placement quibbles?

2006-07-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/19/06, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Descriptions are optional because they are not necessary for the test. Sometimes a test doesn't need a description, its obvious from reading the code what its doing. Sometimes it would be redundant. Sometimes you're just writing fast. I

Re: use Tests; # ?

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/20/06, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with $Level is that people don't use it correctly. You want to solve this by providing another element of code that more people will have to use more frequently and hoping that they use it correctly. I'm not sure that's a good

Re: planning at the end

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have a nasty workaround. # at the beginning my $test_allowance = 100; plan tests = $test_allowance; # run the tests here and for each test also execute $test_allowance--; # in the end ok(1) while $test_allowance--; I really hope there is a nicer way to do it. Gabor

Re: planning at the end

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/20/06, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Adriano Ferreira wrote: Ok, that's weird. But it may occasionally have usefulness. Gabor started the thread with the idea of having a test against web pages, which he doesn't know how many at the beginning, but

Test::WWW::Mechanize page_internal_links_ok

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
While using page_link_ok it checks all the links on the page, including those that point to external sites. It is bth unpolite - why hit their site every time I run my test script and when I am working off line it generates false errors. What would be the correct and easy way to test only links

Re: Test::WWW::Mechanize page_internal_links_ok

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/21/06, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: What would be the correct and easy way to test only links that are internal to the site. Maybe a page_internal_links_ok() method? How would you have it determine what's internal? When

Re: planning at the end

2006-07-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/21/06, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/06, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken the problem with no_plan is that the test script might exit before actually running all the tests you wanted and Harness won't notice it. PS In all my years

Re: Test::WWW::Mechanize - submit form with invalid values

2006-08-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 8/19/06, Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: During testing sometimes I would like to submit a form either with values missing from a selection list or with illegal values supplied. Similarry ocassionally I would like to supply fields and values

Re: Kwalitee metric: Community support channels

2006-08-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 7/26/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some software for multiplexing between a web forum, a newsgroup, a mailing list and an RSS feed, which could be useful. But we need to consider whether we also want a forum (a la Gabor's http://www.cpanforum.com/ ) as well. I wonder if

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/7/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Examples go in the installed docs or they are lost. The docs could state that there are some ready-to-run examples in that dir in the distribution. In one module where we had planty of examples I addeded a script that would creata a

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/7/06, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 September 2006 00:51, Gabor Szabo wrote: In one module where we had planty of examples I addeded a script that would creata a Module::Name::Examples.pm that is a collection of the example files in pod format. This modules gets

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/7/06, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/06, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 September 2006 00:51, Gabor Szabo wrote: In one module where we had planty of examples I addeded a script that would creata a Module::Name::Examples.pm that is a collection

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/7/06, Salve J Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Klausner wrote: Oh, and if you want to join the fun and help a bit, here's a (probably incomplete) list of tasks: - Metrics: [snip] Would the metrics for community support channels that were suggested a while ago be welcome? (The

using examples as tests + Devel::Cover

2006-09-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
In a module I have just started to maintain there were 0 tests but there were several exampes with their expected output. As I would like to keep the examples and I would like to have tests but I don't want to duplicate this code I added a test t/sample.t that would run each one of the example

RFC:: Test::Example

2006-09-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
Going along the path of testing the examples in my distribution, I think it could be generalized. What do you think about this? Gabor =head1 NAME Test::Example - Check if all the examples in the distribution work correctly =head1 SYNOPSIS use Test::Example; test_all_examples(); or

Re: using examples as tests + Devel::Cover

2006-09-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/11/06, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They probably need to be run in the same process. What about using Test::Output or IO::Capture to capture the output (and keep it from Test::Harness) and just running the code with do code.pl? Thanks, this was a good idea though the main

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone. Maybe this metric should even check if there's a license in META.yml AND a pod heading namen LICENSE, so that humans and tools

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/13/06, brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone.

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/14/06, Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Advocacy to get popular modules to state their licenses more prominently * Advocacy to get modules with inconsistently stated licenses (e.g. DSLIP vs. POD) corrected I think if we can include it in the CPANTS tests so there might be

Re: What should be captured in automated test reports?

2006-09-24 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/24/06, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (As posted to Perl Monks, but probably a good question for this list as well) As I've been developing CPAN::Reporter, I've been thinking about what information I wished I had when examining failure reports on CPAN Testers. Test::Reporter already

Re: daily CPANTS data

2006-09-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
Great! I would also like to see e-mail sent out the the author when her module is analysed. Similarry to CPAN testers this should only go out in 'bad' cases to some arbitrary definition of 'bad' e.g: 1) a metric turned from good to bad since the last analysis 2) overall rate of the module is

CPAN.pm to install only flagged versions of modules

2006-10-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am not exactly sure this is the appropriate place to raise this idea but it relates very strongly to quality of CPAN modules. Occasionally new version of CPAN modules break code in applications. We cannot catch that, but we can at least catch cases when it breaks other CPAN modules. There

Re: CPAN.pm to install only flagged versions of modules

2006-10-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
would be a good idea at all. On the other hand if there is a newer version with the security fix and the module works well with the rest of the CPAN modules then Bundle authors could update their bundle in a reasonable time. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Re: CPAN.pm to install only flagged versions of modules

2006-10-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 10/31/06, Andreas J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:51:42 +0200, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What about adding a mechanism to PAUSE to map module/version pairs to the bundles they are mentioned in? One could parse the most recent bundles, extract

Re: CPAN.pm to install only flagged versions of modules

2006-10-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 10/31/06, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you should consider writing a CPAN::Mini extension that makes it easy to create and maintain a minicpan repository with the features that you want. Rather than mirroring just CPAN, I would imagine it would probably draw from Backpan as

recursive_test_files in Module::Build and in ExtUtils::MakeMaker

2006-11-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
In Module::Build I can set recursive_test_files = 1, so I can organize my test files in subdirectories of t/ I am using create_makefile_pl= 'traditional', to create a readme but the Makefile.PL does not have any mention to this recoursiveness. Is this a bug in the makefile creation or

which modules can be used on an older version of perl?

2006-11-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
Recently I was asked how to determine which modules are available for an old version of perl (5.004 or similar). I asked about this on PerlMonks http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=586506 That resulted in this page: http://www.szabgab.com/cpantested/ Based on the database of the CPAN Testers I

Re: which modules can be used on an older version of perl?

2006-12-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 12/4/06, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Romano patched up Test-Simple to restore 5.4.5 compatibility. I'll see about releasing that as 0.66. That might make a whole lot more of CPAN happy on 5.4.x. PS I don't see 5.4.5 in your list. sqlite select count(*) from

Re: which modules can be used on an older version of perl?

2006-12-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 12/4/06, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: On 12/4/06, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Romano patched up Test-Simple to restore 5.4.5 compatibility. I'll see about releasing that as 0.66. That might make a whole lot more of CPAN

Test script with hierarchy

2007-02-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
hi, In a project I am working on there is a separate automation team. This team gets test descriptions from the manual QA people including steps how to implement each step: Test A Step 1 - Setup a smadge and set it to operation Blue Step 2 - Setup another smadge and set it to operation

Re: Eliminating STDERR without any disruption.

2007-03-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
Some other ideas I saw in a real system: - distinguish between failures in the configuration of the system under test and the actual tes this would yield levels such as conf_error and conf_warning - In addition I am not sure if some of these calls should automatically bail out as being fatal

MAKE TEST failed: Illegal seek PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1

2007-05-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
OK, so a test failed as in http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2007/05/msg474043.html What does the Illegal seek mean there? Gabor

testing dependent modules

2007-05-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Before releasing or installing a module it might be a good thing to test all the other CPAN modules that depend on the one to be released or installed. Is there a tool to do this? How would you do this? Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/ Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. You know - you've kind of tickled a raw nerve here.

testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
If you have already started to argue about Windows vs Unix issues is there a way - besides uploading to CPAN and waiting for the CPAN testers to test my modules on platforms I don't have? [*] Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc (see full list on this page

HP Testdrive

2007-05-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
mailing lists. Before I start writing a program that will do that (and hoping that I will actually have the tuits for that) is there anyone out there already using this system? Maybe with an automated script already? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 5/31/07, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 May 2007, at 08:28, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Wouldn't it would be interesting if there were a multiplexing service for this sort of thing? E.g. maybe a system that allows you to subscribe to a personal mailing list of sorts in much the

Reporting setup problems separately?

2007-07-24 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, I have a test that looks like this: ok(prepare_first(), first prepared); ok(test_first(), first is working); ok(prepare_second(), second prepared); ok(test_second(), second is working); That is, there is a phase where I setup the test environment and then there is the actual test.

Re: Reporting setup problems separately?

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
SKIP might be a good idea to avoid running tests that cannot work due to some missing prereq or bad environment or whatever but it still does not solve the reporting problem. There can be calls like this ok($ok, environment is ready); and calls like this ok($ok, system under test works well);

Re: T::H 2.x and 3.0

2007-08-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 8/26/07, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Aug 2007, at 15:51, Randy W. Sims wrote: I haven't followed too closely, but has anyone checked with the CPAN smokers to see if they can set up the new harness on their test systems to use when they are testing modules on CPAN?

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
and their source code on CPAN. Look at http://kobesearch.cpan.org/ search for the modules name and look at the soruce code. Gabor Szabo

Test::Deep without the Test part?

2007-09-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
I would like to compare data structure in some non-test code. Test::Deep seems to give all the features I need, except that it is integrated with the testing framework. How could I use that or what else should I use to compare two deep data structures? Gabor

Re: Test::Deep without the Test part?

2007-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
thank you all!

Re: Dropping 5.5 support from my modules.

2007-11-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
://cpantesters.szabgab.com/stats/ http://cpantesters.szabgab.com/stats/perl_5.5.5.html Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

MakeMaker warning

2007-12-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, might be slightly unrelated to QAsorry After installing JOSHUA/Net-Telnet-Cisco-1.10.tar.gz if I run perl Makefile.PL on an unrelated Makefile.PL that requires 'Net::Telnet::Cisco' = '1.10' I get a warning Argument 1.3.1 isn't numeric in numeric lt () at

Re: MakeMaker warning

2007-12-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Dec 26, 2007 12:37 PM, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: might be slightly unrelated to QAsorry In the future, MakeMaker issues go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for that. After installing JOSHUA/Net-Telnet-Cisco-1.10.tar.gz if I run perl Makefile.PL

Re: What should it's name be?

2008-01-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
I know I am a bit late to the party but what about Test::Anything ? Gabor

Re: Smoking private dists?

2008-02-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Feb 5, 2008 11:55 AM, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could look at buildbot. It can do all of the above. It's in Python if that matters :) Or Tinderbox which was the original that buildbot copied. (Why did they have to keep the GUI I don't know :) Gabor

Re: Update 3 on the QA Hackathon in Oslo

2008-02-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi Salve and others. I have added an entry to http://adserver.szabgab.com/ advertising the QA workshop. It is in English and should show up in every country. If you can send me texts in other languages as well with the appropriate country code I'd be glad to add them. See the linked yaml file to

QA Hackathon - Where are you staying?

2008-02-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
I guess many of the participants of the QA Hackathon are registered here as well so I added an entry listing who stays when and where during the Hackathon Please add your info to it http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008 Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Detailed name of the Operating System in the CPAN Tester reports

2008-03-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is the detailed name and version of the OS (e.g Ubuntu Linux 7.10 ) available in the Test reports? I found some information in the ccversion field of %Config but that's still only and indication. If not I think this information might be quite useful, especially for creating statistics and seeing

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
if you did not have a perl based test environment you could also ask questions on how to set it up... Or if you just wanted to use TAP without Perl, that could also a base for asking questions here... Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Gergely Brautigam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One last question then I swear I will shut up :) Why use perl for testing? Of course all others languages are used for testing this and that.. What excels perl to be used for testing. Obviusly it has powerfull

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Gergely Brautigam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... We used Java with JUnit and .NET with NUnit... C++ for low level testing and so fort and so on.. They all had there advantages and disatvantages. I use perl for nearly one and a half year now. But appart

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Salve J Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) Whiteboards, markers erasers. Lots of whiteboards for taking notes. At least one whiteboard just for projects being worked on, the grid at BarCamps is an example. We'll have at least 5 rooms with

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, does anyone know a student? I tried to spam all the local universities but with the current USD exchange rate people get about 30-40% less this year than 2 years ago... ok, I know its not about the money. Gabor

Topics in Oslo

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On the Topics page http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_Topics I have started to move the topics suggested by people to a separate place and started to include a list of interested people. I think the talks can be removed from this page as they are already available on

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Salve J Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael G Schwern said: David Golden wrote: I'm curious to try git, if anyone is up for teaching it. I had the same thoughts. My concern is that we'll be spending time futzing with git rather than hacking

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit libraries of Java and .Net and create some wrapper around them (or a replacement) so people with existing tests

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Gergely Brautigam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do I have the feeling that I'm part of a Borg cube ? :D I don't know but I should re-read my sentences *before* I send them. It seems my English gets worse by the hour. Sorry for that. Gabor

Re: Is FIT fit for purpose?

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
There were already many good answers here, let me just add my perspective probably just repeating the previous comments. I am not a Fit expert and I have never used that with real customers but I did use something resembling it as I think all of you have. Occasionally I organize a QA Day for QA

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-04-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have arrived to Oslo this morning. http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2008/04/1207076595.html on Friday I'll finish at Linpro at 17:00 and then I'd be glad to join the rest of you. Gabor

W3C validator without network access?

2008-04-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is there a W3C validator that works locally on my computer? All the modules I found so far use the http://validator.w3.org/ service including Test::HTML::W3C but that's not really usable in a frequently running test suit. There is Bundle::W3C::Validator that I think bundles all the modules need

Re: W3C validator without network access?

2008-04-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Thanks. Now I hope someone will package it as a module on CPAN :-) Gabor On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, April 6, 2008 9:28 pm, Gabor Szabo wrote: Is there a W3C validator that works locally on my computer? All the modules I

Re: Preparing a new Test::* module

2008-04-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say put as much as possible of this outside the Test:: namespace and then wrap in a thin Test:: wrapper. I wish I'd done this with Test::Deep, it's on the todo list but I'll never get around to it, I am not sure

Keeping tests for execution at a later point in time

2008-04-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
installation? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Test::Harness 3.10 lots of issues under Devel::Cover 0.64

2008-05-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi Paul, I am not sure if this was discussed already but while Test::Harness 3.10 passes its tests on my Ubuntu 7.10 with perl 5.8.8 it fails when running with Devel::Cover: Here is the beginning of the 2684 lines of output: Deleting database

libwww-perl-5.812 and Devel::Cover 0:64

2008-05-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
After running the following as I have been doing with many other modules cover -delete export DEVEL_COVER_OPTIONS=-coverage,statement,branch,condition,path,subroutine,time HARNESS_PERL_SWITCHES=-MDevel::Cover make test cover -report html all tests PASS and then I get: Can't open database

Test::NoWarnings and plan skip_all don't like each other

2008-05-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
Yesterday I was happy to notice that you can use Test::Warn together with Test::NoWarnings. So you can test for a watning in a specific test while testing that nothing else gives a warning.\ Good. :-) Today I found out that if you skip_all tests while you have Test::NoWarnings your test will

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