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I don't think much special work would need to be done. I've heard that Test::Cmd
works pretty
well. I was reading that just a few days ago, but I can't remember where I read that
(grr ...)
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: {}
is begging for trouble.
This does mean, though, that it won't play nicely with versions of Perl 5.6.0. Is
that trade
off acceptable?
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1: Older versions are getting cumulative results from newer versions.
2: Everyone rushed out to check their own modules :)
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Let me know if anything is unclear. If you can think of any pros and cons of this
approach, I
would love to hear them.
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,
'shuffle' = \my $shuffle_tests,
'fast' = \$ENV{FAST_TESTS},
);
In this case, this is part of my driver script and I call it like:
grind --fast
That runs through all of my tests, but the FAST_TESTS environment variable is
available in the
test programs that I run.
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approaches.
I hope that made sense.
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to allow me to better manage my tests.
If you have used it in a CPAN module,
please let me know which one, so I can take a look.
I've just made it available at
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_course/downloads/grind.gz
It needs more work, including allowing descending into directories (via
/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
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Any ideas on where to look next?
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FYI: I've managed to replicate this error on another ActiveState Perl linux box. The
Perl -V
information is the same, but the module list is quite a bit smaller. The only common
element that
I can find is ActiveState.
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delete it and
start refactoring from a cleaner code base.
I'll dig some more and see if I can come up with a workaround.
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I'm wondering if coverage results are cumulative? If I have tests in four different
directories ...
Of course they are, if the -merge option is on. I missed that.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
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the idea
of an entire
Perl Mongers group becoming a hoplite. I can't help but wonder if a little friendly
competition
amongst groups might be a wonderful thing. Who can get the most modules tested?
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forget to run some tests. If any tests are skipped, it should be by
the explicit instruction by the person running the test lest nasty
surprises crop up.
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something about that, but I guess it
doesn't annoy me enough to find a patch laying around somewhere.
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Hi all,
http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/AI-NeuralNet-Simple-0.02/
I've a problem in testing Inline::C. In the module
AI::NeuralNet::Simple, I do some work allocating and deallocating
memory and I've been bitten by a bug where I wasn't allocating memory
properly for one of my arrays. It's fixed
of this? Is this a known change in behaviour?
From perl58delta:
The existing behaviour when localising tied arrays and hashes is
wrong, and will be changed in a future release, so do not rely on
the existing behaviour. See Localising Tied Arrays and Hashes Is
Broken.
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op-code level
and can possibly cope with renamed variables as a result.
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I would also like to propose that we remove all -w flags, and convert
them to use the warnings pragma.
Does that mean you don't want to support versions of Perl prior to 5.6? I would think
that should
be up to Tim.
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If this will break things prior to 5.6 then I reverse my proposal and
say that we should *not* use the warnings pragma and instead use the -w
flag.
I always find it easier to roll back unwritten code :)
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this something I should upload?
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Hook::Lexwrap?
It's what I normally use for this sort of thing, and you can
short-circuit the original method in a pre- wrapper.
Ah, never knew about the short-circuiting. Thanks!
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I've no idea why, but when I try to install Devel::Cover, I'm getting far more failed
tests than
there are tests. Below is the summary and my perl -v.
Any ideas? I didn't see anything in the docs to indicate what the problem would be.
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--- Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I'm confused too. None of the Test::Unit examples I've seen use
is, they use some form of assert.
You were looking at Test::Class code, not Test::Unit code.
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Synopsis:
my $override = Sub::Override-new( foo = sub { 'overridden sub' } );
# use the new sub
$override-restore;
# original sub available
You can override multiple subs:
$override-replace('Some::sub1', sub { 'new data1' })
-replace('Some::sub2', sub
.
Steve
MockObjects are great, but sometimes you just want to replace one teeny, tiny little
function
that's making life miserable. Also, MockObjects are great if the interface is OO, but
not if it's
procedural.
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(You can later restore the subroutine, if needed)
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, task
cards and tests are some of the many tools that help with that. Foster
a culture of information sharing through well-defined channels instead
of the information hoarding (though often accidental) that we commonly
see and your project has a much greater chance of success.
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So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great
estimates?
What habits to develop?
And all that writing only to notice that I only peripherally touched on
your question :)
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*become* the programs they are
supposed to document will this problem be solved (and programming will
likely be much better for it.)
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to lead to a
greater need to actually read the test implementation (if not the
actual code.)
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who just started testing.
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tests pass and testa # 217 and beyond fail
because the module didn't load properly. You can spend hours debugging
because you didn't see the use_ok failure at the top. (I speak from
extremely painful personal experience on this.)
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guidelines. I will
confess that I was not entirely happy with my wording on the latter.
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I will be out of the office starting 21/12/2004 and will not return
until
31/12/2004.
I am away today. Talk to Simon
, '... but this hangs';
AI::Prolog is not yet on the CPAN, so if someone want's to test this,
they can grab it from
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/downloads/AI-Prolog-0.01.tar.gz
I didn't do too much research into this as eq_or_diff() solves my
problem, but we appear to have an infinit loop in Test::More
to test this,
they can grab it from
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I didn't do too much research into this as eq_or_diff() solves my
problem, but we appear to have an infinit loop in Test::More::eq_hash.
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must be missing something because that didn't die. It quite happily
ran the tests. Can someone please tell me what I am missing?
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an invalid pattern is supplied.
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--- Ian Langworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm taking a software development class this semester which will
involve
writing extensive object-oriented code. My partner and I are trying
to
decide whether to use Test::Unit, ::Class, or ::Inline for our test
scripts.
I can see
be. I'd love to
see the latter in prove and not being able to override
Test::Builder-ok is giving me fits!
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Per this message from Schwern
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missing here?
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is in color. Passing tests are in
green and failing tests are in red. Further discussion is at
http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/22899.
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that the asterisks at the front of the lines don't
really exist, but those lines are the ones that are colored bold red in
my output.
The rest of the patch was fine and I thank you very much!
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+elsif ($result{number} and my $extra = $self-_is_extra_line(
$line ))
Always fails to collect the data I need because $result{number} is
false when the extra data is being accumulated. Thus, I changed it
to:
elsif (!$result{number} and my
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And this is confusing me because the next line actually uses the
$result{number} but the code still works.
elsif (!$result{number} and my $extra = $self-_is_extra_line(
$line )) {
my $test = $totals-{details}[$result{number} - 1];
OK
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Odd. I think the problem was in looking for undefined values; at
least,
I remember ending up with that while writing the patch and running
the
Test::Harness tests.
Perhaps we have something else different
Has there been any final decision as to what to call test names? There
was quite a bit of discussion, but I don't recall the resolution.
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Once it's made useful, it's a whole 'nuther ball game :)
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:48:39AM -0800, Ovid
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It's actually rather important that I have an answer for this, but
I
really can't go into more detail (sorry).
It's a comment.
There's more than one thing being defined
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problems with? Will passing a function reference have any chance
of altering the behavior of the code (it would in Perl).
* Is there threading in JavaScript?
Used to be no, but I'm not sure about the latest versions.
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can't be
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has any bearing on David's problem is not clear to me.
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language to
blame failed contracts correctly, but I don't know what that means. I
also note that the link you point us to after that comment is a
citation, not something I can actually read.
Other than that, it looks interesting.
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the array each time. I'm expecting my test suite to still
continue working but under this proposed idea, it could be a nightmare
for me to debug. Heck, when I print out the arrays with Data::Dumper,
I'll see the same values and be mystified why they're not equivalent.
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if someone wants to pitch a
solution rather than continue a long email chain, I'm sure we'd be
grateful :)
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PPI::Normal and fail back to B::Deparse.
Right now, this test module is not as useful as I would like due to
caveats listed above. Suggestions welcome.
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to this problem for a couple of days, but
I'm glad to know there's a path to follow.
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in that module (doing so would kill a bit
of irony). And POD coverage for a module that consists of one line of
code?
We should at least throw the poor module author's a bone and leave
Acme:: out of this.
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PS: Someone should really write Acme::Code::Police::State. It would
search
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this or is this one common enough that someone knows the offending
party?
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However, there's a lot more stuff I would like to do with the test
output (imagine a Wx extension that provides the red/green color bars
that JUnit provides). By fixing Test::Harness, we get a more general
case solution and everybody wins.
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stabilize until 5.6. I recall
this
from Email::Find and URI::Find. But for normal use its ok in 5.5.
FYI: Deeply nesting qr// constructs can have performance impacts.
ovid $ perl -le '$x=qr{x};$y = qr{y$x};print qr{$y};'
(?-xism:y(?-xism:x))
Perl will decompile the individual regexes back
?node_id=503758. In short, I need to use
a different strategy to get around the problems outlined in that node
(reproduced below).
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If others can see that this is not an unusual problem it might help.
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Hi all,
I've noticed that http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/HOP-Parser-0.01/,
amongst other modules, has no CPAN test results appearing even though
CPAN tester reports are coming in. I've seen this for other modules,
too.
Is there an announced reason for this I missed or is something down?
Cheers
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Internally it uses the following:
'JSON' = 1.00,
'Test::Differences' = 0.47,
'Test::Simple' = 0.62,
'Test::Tester' = 0.103,
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I'd recommend a nice glass of Cigar Volant
(http://www.strangehorizons.com/2005/20050905/lucianovic-c.shtml)
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I've been using it and once you get it set up, it's fairly straight
forward. You can see a sample in my journal:
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I've been using it and once you get it set up, it's fairly straight
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Interesting
than simply an SQL tester.
Thoughts?
I'm thinking a name like Test::ControlWhitespace.
Also posted to http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/28819
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to provide their
own grammars and thus structure the output to better suit their needs.
Of course, I would like a Ponie with that, too).
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hurtin' me ;)
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(might) be inclined to argue the point, but even then
it's questionable. As a language-independent tool, an API is silly and
I'm a fool for shooting my keyboard off for thinking only about the
implementation problems as opposed to its benefits.
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to handle got/expected failure information in Java or C? There are
pretty rich data structures we could put out there and YAML might help.
That would also likely simplify a parser.
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If you mean you want pluck YAML test results from a noisy input
stream I'd say youd probably be wrong.
Naturally, I forgot to include the most compelling argument. The
noisy input stream is noisy only because we've never tamed it. If it
becomes well-defined
thing. I don't mind ##.
Anyone else?
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writing automated tools for TAP is problematic. There's more stuff
folks would like to do and we need these issues resolved to make those
things happen.
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Sounds like a good idea, but what about strings? You'd need to mask
those out prior to the test, wouldn't you? And if they were multi-line
strings, you'd need to mask 'em out with the right type of ending
(unless PPI were being used).
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$trick_that_naughty_cpants_thingy_into_thinking_I_use_strict = 'Ha, ha!';
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Huh? Can you post an example? The logical spot for having the module phone
home would be in the Makefile.PL. I also glanced at some tests, but didn't
see anything there, either.
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: '3'
# expected: '4'
# this is diag output
That would be easy to parse, should be trivial to implement and, I suspect, be
backwards compatible.
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feedback as to whether or not such a feature would be incorporated.
And while we're at it, another non-bug but definitely useful feature out be
for TAP output to have a version number, but that's another story ...
Sorry for the line noise.
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Hi all,
I would still like to be in a position to write a grammar for TAP, but I've
heard no answers to my questions. Should I assume that a formal grammar is not
wanted/desired at this point?
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can easily
produce some output which doesn't make sense. Thus, I'm stuck in the awkard
position of needing fundamental issues resolved before I can proceed in a
confident manner.
Cheers,
Ovid
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to be loaded rather than use
heuristics to guess what version is allowed.
Cheers,
Ovid
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From: chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday 03 July 2006 09:12, Ovid wrote:
I am tempted, but there are some problems with parsing TAP output as it
currently stands. I can write a grammar for it, but the grammar can easily
produce some output which doesn't
community do you program for? Just do it, man. Get approval /
fix it later.
Doing it now. Tougher than I thought! Due to some weird semantics involved,
I've already jettisoned HOP::Lexer and have rolled my own :(
Not sure when it will be done.
Cheers,
Ovid
be irrelevant.
Mandating that would only impose extra overhead.
Cheers,
Ovid
});
$parser-parse($tap); # croaks if it can't
print $parser-plan;
foreach my $line ( $parser-test_lines ) {
print $line;
}
I'm sure there's more information I can capture and provide for you, so tell me
what you want (if I can easily provide it, I will).
Cheers,
Ovid
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}
You can download it from
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/downloads/TAP-Parser-0.01.tar.gz
It'd be awfully swell if you can feed it a bunch of TAP output so I can see
what if fails on. Kibitzing is also encouraged, though I warn you that the
thing was thrown together rather hastily.
Cheers
that's not
the best approach, but sooner or later we have to trust *someone's* judgment.
Cheers,
Ovid
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