Re: post-install testing

2011-04-13 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: 3. Possible cooperation from the CPAN, CPANPLUS, CPANM and other maintainers (see point 1). From the CPAN client's point of view, installing means executing either «make install» or «./Build install». The actual

Re: RFC: Private CPAN In A Box

2011-05-24 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: Then, given one of those three ordered list of tarballs that satisfy all prereqs, it should be possibly to repeatably deploy an application with a known set of module versions, even as the latest on CPAN evolves. That

Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-09-26 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: So we have started to look for venues and sponsors. Last year's host and main sponsor won't sponsor us this year, because they want to sponsor other Perl events (with more attendees). I will talk with the

Re: Problem with running lots of tests (I think)

2011-10-31 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Buddy Burden barefootco...@gmail.com wrote: t/rand_time.t (Wstat: 9 Tests: 1764021 Failed: 0) Non-zero wait status: 9 *** Signal 9 That one is obvious, it has been SIGKILLed. Probably the tester thought the tests were hanging. t/rand_time.t

Re: What does t/test.pl do?

2011-11-05 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:23 PM, James E Keenan jk...@verizon.net wrote: In a github issue (https://github.com/schwern/test-more/issues/73), Michael Schwern argued that Test::Builder2 ought to be tested with a completely unrelated test system. We have one, t/test.pl from the Perl core. I

Re: TAP - Test::More - fork

2011-11-10 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, H.Merijn Brand h.m.br...@xs4all.nl wrote: Test Summary Report --- t/20-uni-basic.t   (Wstat: 139 Tests: 366 Failed: 0)  Non-zero wait status: 139 t/21-uni-regex.t   (Wstat: 139 Tests: 18 Failed: 0)  Non-zero wait status: 139 Files=19,

Re: Relying more on Mouse

2011-11-21 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:30 PM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: My bigger concern would be inclusion of Mouse in core as a dependency, since the direction of Perl seems to be to have fewer core modules, not more.  I'd run that discussion by p5p/Ricardo before getting too tied to Mouse.

Re: QA hackathon 2012

2011-11-24 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: Seems the propagation is stuck in the intertubes:    $ host 2011.qa-hackathon.org    2011.qa-hackathon.org is an alias for conferences.mongueurs.net.    conferences.mongueurs.net is an alias for

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-05 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: As a result of the discussions, I'm now reconsidering using Mouse in TB2.  Its interesting, it's not for any of the reasons I thought, but for a distressing encapsulation breech built into Moose. The main concern is

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-05 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:26 AM, David E. Wheeler da...@justatheory.com wrote: *How* much longer? Does the upcoming MOP include syntax (class, method, role keywords) and stuff like roles? Will one be able to drop Mouse in favor of it? I just asked doy. It will support all of that, but not on

Re: Launch of site and sign ups

2013-01-18 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Andy Lester a...@petdance.com wrote: On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: The hackathon site is up, we are looking for sponsors and attendees. What made you put it up at a new domain, rather than qa.perl.org? I was

Re: Perl QA Hackathon 2013 / 2014 transition

2013-04-17 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: Hi, As the main organizer of the next Perl QA Hackathon in Lyon (the venue is here: http://goo.gl/maps/mXo15), I would like to collect some feedback on the hackathon that we just came back from, in

Re: How might we mark a test suite isn't parallalizable?

2013-05-03 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:39 PM, brian d foy brian.d@gmail.com wrote: In HARNESS_OPTIONS we can set -jN to note we want parallel tests running, but how can a particular module, which might be buried in the dependency chain, tell the harness it can't do that? It seems to me that by the time

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-07-04 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ricardo Signes perl...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: I just submitted: https://github.com/Perl-Toolchain-Gang/Test-Harness/pull/16 ...to document two undocumented changes. First, the removal of turn on -w by default with no easy way to turn it off and secondly

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-07-07 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Ovid curtis_ovid_...@yahoo.com wrote: What toolchain software is being impacted by this and how hard would it be to make the switch? AFAIK only ExtUtils::MakeMaker and Module::Build use it. The latter can already use TAP::Harness, but there are some details we'd

Re: QA for Perl

2013-07-31 Thread Leon Timmermans
Hi Tracy, Given your industry, I can readily imagine you need that paperwork. I don't think such a formal document exists, but I do believe perl's QA routine is sufficiently robust that it would pass through that. I suspect we'd know the answers, but not the questions in this matter. We don't

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-09-17 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Ovid curtis_ovid_...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm winding up with astonishingly little bandwidth due to launching our company, so I was hoping to see a strong consensus from the users. I would also love to see examples of where the change or lack thereof is causing an

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-09-17 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Mark Stosberg m...@summersault.com wrote: I think a pro/con list is a reasonable request. I've read all the messages myself, am a regular user of Perl's testing tools, and the benefits and drawbacks are not clear to me either. An attempting-to-be-neutral

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-09-18 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Ricardo Signes perl...@rjbs.manxome.orgwrote: It looks like Module::Build already has use_tap_harness. So what's suggested is a patch to ExtUtils::MM_Any to switch from Test::Harness to TAP::Harness...? Or both just setting $Test::Harness::switches = ''…

Re: TAP::Harness and -w

2013-09-21 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Ricardo Signes perl...@rjbs.manxome.orgwrote: * Leon Timmermans faw...@gmail.com [2013-09-17T11:26:40] Just as I expected, make it a wiki means it gets warnocked again. Can we please make a decision, or if we must first come to an agreement on how

Re: How to Port https://metacpan.org/module/Test::Run::Plugin::TrimDisplayedFilenames to TAP::Harness

2013-11-26 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: I read that post and have one question: can I easily create several specialised plugins and have them all apply their modified behaviours to the relevant part of TAP::Harness? Seems like I can only set up a single

Re: New Test::Builder version broke Test::ParallelSubtest

2014-01-13 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Jan Seidel jan.sei...@skyera.com wrote: Hi, I’m using the Test::ParallelSubtest module to run multiple tests in parallel. However, a change in Test::Builder now broke this module. Every bg_subtest block fails with an error like the following: not ok 1

Re: New Test::Builder version broke Test::ParallelSubtest

2014-01-15 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Jan Seidel jan.sei...@skyera.com wrote: Have you contacted the author? It doesn't look to me like you filed a bug report. Odds are this is something that could easily be fixed. Leon Thanks for the recommendation, I opened a bug. I initially skipped this as

Re: TAP::Harness timeout?

2014-01-29 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Todd Rinaldo to...@cpanel.net wrote: I’m looking at using TAP::Harness to process our test suite. Up to now we’ve been using some home grown code that IMHO is a heroic attempt to re-implement TAP::Harness. It seems to do everything we need with one exception.

Re: Request for Feedback: cipra C++11 TAP13 library based on Test::More

2014-02-27 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Patrick Michael Niedzielski patrickniedziel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm sending this email to request some comments on a C++11 library I've written based on Test::More. I hope this is on topic for this mailing list. If there are better places for this,

Re: Final TPF Devel::Cover grant report

2014-10-07 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Paul Johnson p...@pjcj.net wrote: In accordance with the terms of my grant from TPF this is the final report for my work on improving Devel::Cover. Since the last report I have released versions 1.16 and 1.17. The stable release of perl 5.20.1 along with

Re: new Stream Test::Simple question, XS requirement

2015-04-25 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:57 PM, bulk88 bul...@hotmail.com wrote: Since Test::Stream::Context's core design uses weaken() everywhere, that means new Test::Simple always requires XS building (for Scalar::Util), which means it will never run on miniperl, and hence, new Test::Simple will never

Re: Test2/Test::Builder release plan

2016-04-07 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Chad Granum wrote: > > RJBS and I have spoken, and feel it is time to set a release date for > Test2/Test-Builder. We have agreed that doing it at the QAH in Rugby is a > good time. The plan is to release Test2 and the new Test::Builder as