Re: This week's Summary

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Object Freezing [ ... ] ... The upshot is that we're doing it Dan's way; Glorious Leader continues to trump Pumpking Patchmonster. As this is a summary, abbove sentence is a summary as well. The reality is more complex. The final implementation

Re: Garbage-collecting classes [was: This week's Summary]

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do worry about some long-running daemon that uses anonymous classes heavily. It's possible that after quite some time, we'd run out of integers, Its the same problem as assigning PIDs to a process. We will have to cycle around and reuse old free numbers

Re: NCI Broken On Win32

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: src\jit_cpu.c(95) : error C2065: 'RTYPE_COM' : undeclared identifier Did you recheck that recently, I had committed a change WRT this. NMAKE : warning U4006: special macro undefined : '$' link -dll -def:libparrot.def -nologo -debug -o

Re: [perl #24333] [PATCH] pthreads configure on FreeBSD

2003-10-29 Thread Nick Kostirya
- Original Message - From: Lars Balker Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Juergen Boemmels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [perl #24333] [PATCH] pthreads configure on FreeBSD Juergen Boemmels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars

[ANNOUNCE] feature freeze

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
As originally proposed by Melvin Smith, we gonna have a Halloween release. Its not so much Nothing fancy, just something fun. :) - A lot of things did happen since the last release. Not really milestones, though - nevertheless the rather big list of improvements[1] justifies a release. *

Re: [PS] open patches

2003-10-29 Thread Michael Scott
Some of patches on that list that are mine. #24030 Obsolete #24038 Obsolete #24043 Applied #24063 Applied #24177 Rejected #24188 Applied I tried to update the status of #24177 but got Permission Denied. Any chance of that being changed so I could update them myself? Mike On Wednesday, Oct 22,

Re: [perl #24329] Testing error sys/socket.h for FreeBSD.

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Nick Kostirya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise, it would be necessary to introduce the idea of 'headers that are required for testing a header'. After a test you have the result in $PConfig{whatever}, so you can adjust the next test according to the results of the previous one. leo

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- t\src\extend.t1 256121 8.33% 11 I've committed a change for extend_11 (I did print to

[patch] math.ops, out PMC

2003-10-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey, Attached is a small patchlet, that allows the following code to execute: .pcc_sub _main prototyped .sym PerlUndef a a = new PerlUndef a = 10 + 5 print a .end And avoids having to instead do: .pcc_sub _main prototyped .sym PerlUndef a a = new

[perl #24341] [PATCH] classes/null.pl was trying to return 0 from a void function.

2003-10-29 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Andy Dougherty # Please include the string: [perl #24341] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=24341 The new classes/null.pl was trying to return 0 from a void function. The problem

Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Jeays, Mark
Hi, I'm writing on behalf of Ottawa Perl Mongers. At our last meeting, one of our members gave us a quick introduction to the Phalanx project and its goals. A number of the members were interested in the idea and we have been looking for a group project. How would we go about getting involved?

RE: Recommendations for testing e-mail output

2003-10-29 Thread Gordon Henriksen
Use your test script as the MTA (instead of sendmail/qmail-inject/etc.)? Print the oks from your pseudo-MTA. -- Gordon Henriksen IT Manager ICLUBcentral Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stosberg Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: PATCH: (unofficial) Make Devel::Cover use Storable

2003-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Tim Bunce said: On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 09:17:24PM -0500, Michael Carman wrote: I've included a patch for Devel/Cover/DB.pm in case someone else wants to try it. It has *not* been sanctioned by Paul (though he's welcome to it) so use at your own risk. Obviously, the file format for the

Re: PATCH: (unofficial) Make Devel::Cover use Storable

2003-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I ran some more tests, some of which might be more significant: time(sec) db size (kB)peak RAM (MB) no coverage 15 --- ~ 10 Data::Dumper+eval246 245 ~ 23.4 Storable 190

Re: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Andrew Savige
Jeays, Mark wrote: Hi, I'm writing on behalf of Ottawa Perl Mongers. At our last meeting, one of our members gave us a quick introduction to the Phalanx project and its goals. A number of the members were interested in the idea and we have been looking for a group project. How would we go

Re: PATCH: (unofficial) Make Devel::Cover use Storable

2003-10-29 Thread mjcarman
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snipped Devel::Cover metrics] Thanks. This is interesting. Was this using all the coverage criteria? Looking back at my test harness... no, it's just the heavy stuff that I find most useful: statement, branch, and condition

Re: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Ovid
--- Jeays, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm writing on behalf of Ottawa Perl Mongers. At our last meeting, one of our members gave us a quick introduction to the Phalanx project and its goals. A number of the members were interested in the idea and we have been looking for a group

Re: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Andy Lester
1) DBI (Tim Bunce specifically asked for help in re-designing the test suite). 2) CPANPLUS. 3) Module::Build. I'm all for having those biggies handled by Phalanx, and handled well. That's why I'd like to hold off on the top two tiers at http://qa.perl.org/phalanx/distros.html until we get

Re: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Andy Lester
While Andy would certainly be the best person to answer this, I rather like the idea of an entire Perl Mongers group becoming a hoplite. I can't help but wonder if a little friendly competition amongst groups might be a wonderful thing. Who can get the most modules tested? I agree entirely.

Hoplites report!

2003-10-29 Thread Andy Lester
So does anyone have anything to report as far as progress on their modules? Reports back to update on the website would be appreciated. Note that all the status pages, like http://qa.perl.org/phalanx/status/Archive-Tar.html are actually POD behind the scenes, so if Andrew wanted to update

RE: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Jeays, Mark
Ottawa eh? Well, if the infamous `/anick is involved, I'm sure we are all in for a lot of fun. ;-) I don't know if he will be. His name usually comes up once every other meeting or so, but nobody who goes to the meetings has actually seen him in real life! Sort of like the Yeti, except

Re: PATCH: (unofficial) Make Devel::Cover use Storable

2003-10-29 Thread Tim Bunce
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:16:57AM +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm still a little concerned about hitting problems with Storable, so I think I'll apply the patch and then run cpancover on a bunch of modules and compare the output to that of Data::Dumper/eval. If all goes well I'll keep the

Re: Phalanx

2003-10-29 Thread Tim Bunce
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:38:31PM -0600, Andy Lester wrote: 1) DBI (Tim Bunce specifically asked for help in re-designing the test suite). 2) CPANPLUS. 3) Module::Build. I'm all for having those biggies handled by Phalanx, and handled well. That's why I'd like to hold off on the

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Melvin Smith
At 06:40 PM 10/29/2003 +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Adam Thomason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other problematic test is ye = olde -0 error, t/op/number_10.t seems to be failing because of -0 from Cmod. Any hints what to do WRT such behavior? leo Its an issue with our (IBM's) compiler. It

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Jonathan Worthington
From: Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Types: iv=long long, intvalsize=8, intsize=4, opcode_t=long long, opcode_t_size=8, ptrsize=4, ptr_alignment=4 byteorder=12345678, nv=double, numvalsize=8, doublesize=8 Can you

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Melvin Smith wrote: At 06:40 PM 10/29/2003 +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Adam Thomason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other problematic test is ye = olde -0 error, Its an issue with our (IBM's) compiler. It comes from 0.0-0.0*0.0 as a result of the mod test if I

Re: Garbage-collecting classes [was: This week's Summary]

2003-10-29 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Luke Palmer wrote: Object Instantiation Dan had a moment of clarity and declared that the Parrot Way to instantiate an object in class Foo will be: new P5, .Foo All we need now is a working implementation. And, apparently, knowing what

Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Dan Sugalski
I don't know why, exactly, but extend test 11 and 12 don't work on windiws, at least under cygwin--they hang. (For a while extend 11 was sucking down all availabe memory, which was fun) Is anyone else seeing this? (Heck, is anyone else trying with cygwin on windows?) I'm tempted to disable the

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Jonathan Worthington
I don't know why, exactly, but extend test 11 and 12 don't work on windiws, at least under cygwin--they hang. (For a while extend 11 was sucking down all availabe memory, which was fun) Is anyone else seeing this? (Heck, is anyone else trying with cygwin on windows?) I'm tempted to disable

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Here is entire output of make test on cygwin, FYI. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/parrot/parrot $ make test perl t/harness t/src/*.t t/src/basic...ok t/src/exitNOK 3 # got: 'ex3 # ' # expected: 'ex3 # ex2 # ex1 # ' # Looks like you failed 1 tests of 3. t/src/exitdubious

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Jonathan Worthington
- Original Message - From: Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Tinderboxens Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail Failed

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why, exactly, but extend test 11 and 12 don't work on windiws, at least under cygwin--they hang. Could be the missing prototypes for Parrot_call (the prototype is in extend.h, but over things are missing, so I used the emedding interface, where

Re: [perl #24341] [PATCH] classes/null.pl was trying to return 0 from a void function.

2003-10-29 Thread Melvin Smith
At 07:25 PM 10/28/2003 +, via RT wrote: # New Ticket Created by Andy Dougherty # Please include the string: [perl #24341] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=24341 The new classes/null.pl was trying to

vtable extension for, well, extensions

2003-10-29 Thread Dan Sugalski
This will have to wait until after the release, of course, but the ponie stuff has brought up a *really* good point that needs addressing. There's no good way to get or set a generic pointer in a PMC. Right now we're either cheating (by poking into the guts of a PMC) or hijacking an exiting entry

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tend to test it much on cygwin, but have done it now. Of possible interest is this warning when running Configure.pl:- Determining some sizes... Hmm, I see your chosen INTVAL isn't the same size as your pointers. This doesn't really look

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: t\src\extend.t1 256121 8.33% 11 'fraid it wasn't. Still fails in the same way. Sorry. Checked in another change, Win32 seems to buffer stderr too, added a fflush(stderr). Jonathan leo

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: t\src\extend.t1 256121 8.33% 11 'fraid it wasn't. Still fails in the same way. Sorry. Checked in another change, Win32 seems to buffer stderr too, added a fflush(stderr). With

Re: vtable extension for, well, extensions

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (void *)get_pointer() void set_pointer(void *) Good. So we can clean up cheating in Sub PMCs, where we are using _integer vtables, when actually absolute byte-code addressess are passed. Dan leo

Re: vtable extension for, well, extensions

2003-10-29 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (void *)get_pointer() void set_pointer(void *) Good. So we can clean up cheating in Sub PMCs, where we are using _integer vtables, when actually absolute byte-code addressess are passed. Yep, I was

[perl #24355] [PATCH] Some stuff for URM

2003-10-29 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Please include the string: [perl #24355] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=24355 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, before we release Parrot

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tend to test it much on cygwin, but have done it now. Of possible interest is this warning when running Configure.pl:- Determining some sizes... Hmm, I see your chosen INTVAL isn't the same size as your pointers. This doesn't really

Re: [perl #24355] [PATCH] Some stuff for URM

2003-10-29 Thread Melvin Smith
At 02:51 PM 10/29/2003 +, via RT wrote: # New Ticket Created by [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Please include the string: [perl #24355] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=24355 before we release Parrot to the wild

Re: Dying tests on windows

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Types: iv=long long, intvalsize=8, intsize=4, opcode_t=long long, opcode_t_size=8, ptrsize=4, ptr_alignment=4 byteorder=12345678, nv=double, numvalsize=8, doublesize=8 Can you Configure it with intval=int? Yeah, that gets rid of

Re: Tinderboxens

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Adam Thomason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other problematic test is ye = olde -0 error, t/op/number_10.t seems to be failing because of -0 from Cmod. Any hints what to do WRT such behavior? leo

Some questions about currying

2003-10-29 Thread Joe Gottman
I just reread the section of A6 about currying, and I have several questions about it. 1) Suppose I have a function like the following: sub foo($param, @param) {...} where the parameter names differ only by their sigils. Is it legal for me to type

Re: Some questions about currying

2003-10-29 Thread Luke Palmer
Joe Gottman writes: I just reread the section of A6 about currying, and I have several questions about it. 1) Suppose I have a function like the following: sub foo($param, @param) {...} where the parameter names differ only by their sigils. Is it legal for me

Re: [PS] open patches

2003-10-29 Thread Robert Spier
Some of patches on that list that are mine. #24030 Obsolete #24038 Obsolete #24043 Applied #24063 Applied #24177 Rejected #24188 Applied I tried to update the status of #24177 but got Permission Denied. Any chance of that being changed so I could update them myself? You have to log in

Parrot IO fun

2003-10-29 Thread Melvin Smith
Parrot fetched its first web page tonight. Its a baby step, but hey... :) You can now stuff hostnames into a socket as well as a numeric IP address. see examples/io/http.imc -Melvin