Re: Test::DoubleQuotedEntities

2004-08-24 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
on that module, either. K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://infotrope.net/ There's too much blood in my caffeine system.

Re: Updates to modules-related pod

2004-08-17 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
, why burden new authors with it? I raised this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] the other day in fact. Register namespace is useful in some ways and not in others, it seems. The most useless part of it is the published modules list, and IMO we should get rid of the thing. K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert

Updates to modules-related pod

2004-08-16 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
there. Thinking of attacking perlmodlib next, and removing a lot of those long lists. I'm pretty sure we're better off pointing to web resources for most of the gunk that's in there. K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://infotrope.net/ Fist it. It's my solution to everything

perl6-modules list?

2001-06-15 Thread Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
Hi Ask, perl6-meta, and perl6-stdlib, Today at YAPC in the Perl 6 session there was some discussion of modules and what work needs doing in that area for Perl 6. Basically it breaks down the following two topics: WHAT goes into the core? (covered by perl6-stdlib) HOW do we write Perl 6

Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-15 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 07:13:30PM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:03:12PM +, Simon Cozens wrote: There's obvious FUD out there and we don't seem to be giving the impression of getting much done, or doing anything to counter it. Let's be fair. We're not getting

perl6-language needs admin help too :)

2001-02-15 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
As many of you may know, I've recently moved to the other side of the world, and my life's a bit hectic. I hadn't counted on p6-l bursting into life just now, and while I'd like to keep right up to date with it I really can't guarantee daily reading. Would anyone like to volunteer to do weekly

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
I've got one ready to go on the topic of "Perl 6: the story so far". I'm presenting it next week at linux.conf.au and would be happy to submit it for YAPC and/or TPC. K.

intercal

2000-12-06 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
mstevens other languages are great. they are a source of features to steal^Wborrow. Skud INTERCAL mstevens except maybe intercal

Re: Perl Apprenticeship Program

2000-12-05 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:05:43AM -0800, Steve Fink wrote: David Grove wrote: Also, as far as documentation goes, I think it _should_ be written by apprentices, so that non-masters can understand it too. That's always been a huge criticism of the perldocs. That's not grunt work. That's

Re: Tech documentation (Re: Perl Apprenticeship Program)

2000-12-05 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:28:31AM -0800, Nathan Wiger wrote: Anyways, that's just one suggestion. Do I have any idea where to find these mythical people? No, unfortunately. Perhaps some feelers on newsgroups might be a good place to start. Personal experience shows that this could be a

Perl 6 paper

2000-11-21 Thread Skud
This coming Saturday, I'm presenting a paper on Perl 6 (the story so far) at the Australian Open Source Symposium. Is anyone interested in looking over my notes and commenting on them in the next couple of days? K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://infotrope.net/ Today

Re: Critique available

2000-11-05 Thread Skud
was voiced with at least some courtesy. p5p is rather less polite about things. I, for one, consider this to be a feature, not a bug. K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://infotrope.net/ "Darkly hinting of head hitting desk" -- Megahal (trained on asr), 1998-11-05

Re: Critique available

2000-11-05 Thread Skud
e wind. K. -- Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://infotrope.net/ "Darkly hinting of head hitting desk" -- Megahal (trained on asr), 1998-11-05

Re: RFC - Prototype RFC Implementations - Seperating the men from the boys.

2000-09-12 Thread skud
Schwern wrote: Seperating the men from the boys. I'll just go get my detachable penis :) K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source development, consulting and solutions Level 10, 500 Collins St, Melbourne VIC

Re: RFC - Prototype RFC Implementations - Seperating the men from the boys.

2000-09-11 Thread skud
RFC - Prototype RFC Implementations - Seperating the men from the boys. Feh. Scuse me while I find my detachable penis. K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source development, consulting and solutions Level 10, 500 Collins St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Phone:

Language WG quasi-report

2000-09-11 Thread skud
There's been a lot of discussion lately on -meta which implies that the RFC/brainstorming process has gotten out of control. I personally think that it's going exactly as it should, and I've seen little to worry about, which is why I've been fairly hands-off apart from trying to get some

Seeking new regex sublist chair

2000-09-11 Thread skud
Mark-Jason Dominus has indicated that he would like to be replaced as chair of the regex sublist. Would anyone else like to take on this role for the next few weeks? The responsibilities include: - weekly report to me - guide discussion on regex related issues - encourage RFC authors to

Please take RFC 179 discussion to -data

2000-09-11 Thread skud
Could we please take discussion of 179 to -data? I think that's where it should be. K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source development, consulting and solutions Level 10, 500 Collins St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Phone: +61 3 9614 0949 Fax: +61 3 9614 0948

Re: RFC 173 (v1) Allow multiple loop variables in foreach statements

2000-08-30 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:21:19AM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: Allow for a list of loop variables in for(each) statements, i.e. e.g., foreach my ($x, $y, $z) (@list) { ... } Hear, hear. I like this one :) K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open

Re: Proposal: chop() dropped

2000-08-30 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:31:00PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: chomp() is best used for chop()s main raison d'etre, removing $/ from a string. I say we drop chop(). Works for me. Are you going to RFC it? K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source

Re: RFC 175 (v1) Add Clist keyword to force list context (like Cscalar)

2000-08-30 Thread skud
(yes, I'm in an RFC-commenting mood today...) On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:22:31AM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: Add Clist keyword to force list context (like Cscalar) Makes sense to me. Does it connect in any way with Damian's generic want() function? K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL

Re: Proposal: use Perl5

2000-08-30 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 04:43:56PM -0400, Jerrad Pierce wrote: Since everyone seems intent on breaking backward compatibility (Okay, so no one is explicitly setting out to do so, it is merely often dismissed as a non-issue). How about an RFC be done proposing that perl6 ship with a module named

Re: RFC 2 (v3) Request For New Pragma: Implicit

2000-08-30 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 04:53:46PM -0400, Bryan C . Warnock wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Michael Maraist wrote: Good idea, but you have it backwards.. If anything, there should be an "explicit" keyword.. Remember, we want % perl -p -e 's/foo/bar/g' file.txt Oh, I know. I threw it in

Re: RFC format

2000-08-29 Thread skud
The most common format I've seen in the field so far is to have "Status: foo" up with the maintainer and version info, where it's easily seen. Can we do this instead of a separate section? And can we make it required, please? K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/

Automated no status messages

2000-08-28 Thread skud
I've just run a nasty hairy script over the RFC repository and sent email to those people who I think have language RFCs but haven't put statuses on them yet. My aim in this is to figure out which RFCs are still actively under discussion and which aren't. Some people haven't updated their RFCs

Fwd: Re: Automated no status messages

2000-08-28 Thread skud
The way people seem to be showing the status of RFCs is by putting "Status: foo" up near the maintainer info etc. This makes good sense. Can this be reflected in the sample RFC and the instructions and so on? K. - Forwarded message from Peter Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Peter

READ THIS: Re: My Wish

2000-08-26 Thread skud
Righto. I'll coach Sumesh through how to post an RFC properly, and how to check whether something's in Perl yet or not. DO NOT fill -language with discussions of these pseudo-RFCs. Please. I'm begging you. K. -- Kirrily Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread skud
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 01:01:20PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Larry Wall writes: I'd entertain a proposal that ... be made a valid term that happens to do nothing, so that you can run your examples through perl -c for syntax checks. Or better, make it an official "stub" for rapid

Re: Maximum length input lines

2000-08-20 Thread skud
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 05:45:39PM -0700, Peter Scott wrote: At first I thought this was a -io item, but then I realized the -io part is easy; it's the -language part I need to get right :-) Um. The -io sublist is called -language-io for a reason -- it's for language discussions related to IO.

Re: Permanent sublists (was Re: Language WG report, August 16th 2000)

2000-08-17 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 11:15:40PM -0700, Peter Scott wrote: Sorry I didn't chime in earlier, but I would like to say that I prefer published deadlines. Reason: people will talk for as long as you give 'em. However long a meeting is scheduled for, that's how long it will take. We're

Re: error handling and syntax extension

2000-08-17 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 12:15:30PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: If "catch" can be defined DURING PARSING and SYNTAX ERRORS are catchable error handling can be used to define otherwise undefined syntax, becoming a macro language. Please take this to the -errors sublist. Thanks... K. --

Re: RFC 107 (v1) lvalue subs should receive the rvalue as an argument

2000-08-17 Thread skud
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 08:05:25PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: =head1 TITLE lvalue subs should receive the rvalue as an argument =head1 VERSION Maintainer: Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15 Aug 2000 Version: 1 Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Number: 107 I think

Re: Permanent sublists (was Re: Language WG report, August 16th 2000)

2000-08-17 Thread skud
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 10:35:09AM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: I agree. I think the trend should be to establish some permanent sublists, which we're informally leaning towards already. Something like: -io = ALL I/O issues, like open/socket/filehandles -subs = ALL sub/method/func

Re: $!

2000-08-17 Thread skud
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 09:19:20AM -0700, Peter Scott wrote: I realize this is very pedestrian compared to the exception-handling stuff we've been tossing around, which could largely be said to render the issue moot; but I thought I'd shake the branches anyway and see what fell out. I'm