Re: Parrot long-term goals/prospects

2002-09-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:03:00AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: 4) The *only* tools you will need to build parrot are a C compiler environment and either a make tool or a shell I believe we may be able to get away without a make tool or a shell. It won't be pretty, but I see no reason why we

Re: Parrot long-term goals/prospects

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 12:12:52PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:03:00AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: 4) The *only* tools you will need to build parrot are a C compiler environment and either a make tool or a shell I believe we may be able to get away without a

RE: Parrot long-term goals/prospects

2002-09-05 Thread Brent Dax
Nicholas Clark: # On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:03:00AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: # 4) The *only* tools you will need to build parrot are a C compiler # environment and either a make tool or a shell # # I believe we may be able to get away without a make tool or a shell. The final build system

RE: Parrot long-term goals/prospects

2002-09-05 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 02:45, Brent Dax wrote: So, building Parrot ought to look something like this (for a Windows user): c:\parrot cd build c:\parrot\build win32 Are you using MS VC++? [yn] y compiler crap cut out Miniparrot build complete. Enter

Re: OT: pronouncing www (was: Re: ... as a term)

2000-08-24 Thread Austin Hastings
"foo.bar" ne "www.foo.bar" pronounce("foo.bar") eq pronounce("www.foo.bar") As in, "Surf to www.perl.org and read the new ..." sounds like "Surf to perl dot org and read the new ..." =Austin --- Tom Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The "www" in e.g., "www.netscape.com" is pronounced,

Re: OT: pronouncing www (was: Re: ... as a term)

2000-08-24 Thread Tom Christiansen
The "www" in e.g., "www.netscape.com" is pronounced, IMO, in the same way as other useless, should-be-obvious punctuation. It's silent. Seems like something you should take up with RFC 819, or maybe with RFC 881, considering that they and their ramifying successors all seem to be in flagrant

Re: [OT] How to pronounce 'www' (was Re: ... as a term)

2000-08-24 Thread Bart Lateur
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:58:02 -0700, Daniel Chetlin wrote: I use "dub dub dub", which I picked up at Intel. I find it much easier to pronounce quickly than anything that uses an approximant. http://x74.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=603967285 I do like "wibbly". Or "wibble". It has a

OT: pronouncing www (was: Re: ... as a term)

2000-08-24 Thread Dave Storrs
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Bart Lateur wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Larry Wall wrote: If you want to save the world, come up with a better way to say "www". (And make it stick...) "The world"? This problem only exists in English! We pronounce it something similar to "way

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-23 Thread Bart Lateur
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Larry Wall wrote: If you want to save the world, come up with a better way to say "www". (And make it stick...) "The world"? This problem only exists in English! We pronounce it something similar to "way way way". -- Bart.

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-22 Thread Damian Conway
I think this is fraught with peril. I'd have expected: print (1, 2, 3, ...) or die; to print 12345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728etc No, if that's what you wanted, you'd get it with print( 1, 2, 3 .. ) # RFC 24

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-22 Thread John Porter
Larry Wall wrote: Either that, or it's a funny unary operator that can take 0 or 1 argument. But I'd be happy with just ... as a statement. Dwimming the unary operator may not be worth it. Especially since it might be confused with the binary operator. Could you make it "evaporate"

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-22 Thread John Porter
Damian Conway wrote: I think this is fraught with peril. I'd have expected: print (1, 2, 3, ...) or die; to print 12345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728etc No, if that's what you wanted, you'd get it with print( 1, 2, 3 .. ) # RFC 24 -- John

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-22 Thread John Porter
Larry Wall wrote: I'd entertain a proposal that ... be made a valid term that happens to do nothing, so that you can run your examples through perl -c for syntax checks. Or better, make it an official "stub" for rapid prototyping, with some way of getting a warning whenever you execute

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-22 Thread John Porter
Damian Conway wrote: Easy. I'll just add a Cthing operator to Q::S. It would take no arguments and return a (lazy?) list of every possible Perl subroutine. PS: Can you tell whether I'm joking? I think you're both joking AND not joking, at the same time. -- John Porter We're

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Damian Conway
The interesting thing about ... is that you have to be able to deal with it a statement with an implied semicolon: print "foo"; ... print "bar"; We already have plenty of statements with implied semicolons: print "foo"; for @list {}

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Larry Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : We already have plenty of statements with implied semicolons: : : print "foo"; : for @list {} : print "bar"; Yes, we do, and I'm trying to figure out how to write a prototype for one of those. :-) / 2 : I'd have expected: : : print (1,

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Damian Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : We already have plenty of statements with implied semicolons: : : print "foo"; : for @list {} : print "bar"; Yes, we do, and I'm trying to figure out how to write a prototype for one of those. :-) / 2 Under RFC 128 and the

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread skud
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 01:01:20PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Larry Wall writes: I'd entertain a proposal that ... be made a valid term that happens to do nothing, so that you can run your examples through perl -c for syntax checks. Or better, make it an official "stub" for rapid

RE: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Brust, Corwin
-Original Message- From: Ed Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Excellent idea- anything to get to production faster! But don't {} or {1} sort of do the same thing? I think the point here is readability, not unique functionality. There more then one way to do it :) -Corwin

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Ed Mills
Excellent idea- anything to get to production faster! But don't {} or {1} sort of do the same thing? From: Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ... as a term Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Randal L. Schwartz writes: : if ($a == $b) { ... } #

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:49:39PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I take it the existing C... operator would be unaffected? Essentially. The lexer is (and will continue to be) quite aware of the difference between terms and operators. Oops, just read this. Ignore my

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Nathan Torkington
Larry Wall writes: I'd entertain a proposal that ... be made a valid term that happens to do nothing, so that you can run your examples through perl -c for syntax checks. Or better, make it an official "stub" for rapid prototyping, with some way of getting a warning whenever you execute

Re: ... as a term

2000-08-21 Thread Damian Conway
Larry Wall writes: I'd entertain a proposal that ... be made a valid term that happens to do nothing, so that you can run your examples through perl -c for syntax checks. Or better, make it an official "stub" for rapid prototyping, with some way of getting a warning