Re: S4: Can PRE and POST be removed from program flow?

2004-09-05 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Siracusa) writes: there's an official way, you'll certainly see less wheel reinvention than in Perl 5. This is a good thing. That is only true if you accept the fundamentalist principle that one should never reinvent wheels. If that were true, then we wouldn't be

Re: S4: Can PRE and POST be removed from program flow?

2004-09-05 Thread Smylers
John Siracusa writes: To bring it home, I think packaging and distribution is important enough to warrant a standard, core-supported implementation. Yes, it's great to be able to roll your own solution, but forcing the issue by providing nothing but the most basic features required to

Re: The last shall be last (was: The first shall be first)

2004-09-05 Thread Smylers
John Williams writes: BTW, there should be no ambiguity between Cpostfix:'th and C'', because one occurs where an operator is expected, and one occurs where a term is expected. There may be no ambiguity for the Perl engine, but any use of C' for anything other than quoting makes life hard for

Re: The last shall be last (was: The first shall be first)

2004-09-05 Thread Richard Proctor
On Sun 05 Sep, David Green wrote: On 2004/9/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lang) wrote: (Nice Subject change, I almost missed it!) Larry Wall wrote: Yow. Presumably nth without an argument would mean the last. If it means the last, why not just use Clast? Conflict with last LOOP?

Re: What Requires Core Support (app packaging)

2004-09-05 Thread John Siracusa
On 9/4/04 11:42 PM, chromatic wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 18:44, John Siracusa wrote: To bring it home, I think packaging and distribution is important enough to warrant a standard, core-supported implementation. I think the specially structured dir of files and its single-file packaged

Re: Synopsis 9 draft 1

2004-09-05 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 19:47, Larry Wall wrote: This synopsis summarizes the non-existent Apocalypse 9, which discussed in detail the design of Perl 6 data structures. It was primarily a discussion of how the existing features of Perl 6 combine to make it easier for the PDL folks to write

Re: What Requires Core Support (app packaging)

2004-09-05 Thread Luke Palmer
John Siracusa writes: I think the most important question was at the end of my last message: is something even *possible* without core support? Taking a set of scripts and libs and making single-file, compiled (or precompiled bytecode or whatever) executable that will run on all platforms

Re: The last shall be last

2004-09-05 Thread Matt Diephouse
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:17:22 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan Lang Agreed; that's why I'd include last for newbies to use. 0th as last works only as an extension of -1st as first from last, -2nd as second from last, and so on; you have positive numbers counting from the first, and negative numbers