Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Damian Conway
Mark Overmeer wrote: [...yet another honest and heartfelt plea for Pod 6 to be something entirely different from what it is currently designed to be.] The solution is simple, you know, Mark. Why not just write up your own alternate S26, redesigning Pod 6 the way you think it should work, and

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Overmeer wrote: [...yet another honest and heartfelt plea for Pod 6 to be something entirely different from what it is currently designed to be.] The solution is simple, you know, Mark. Why not just write up your

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Paul Seamons
The outcome is that poddoc can be Pod6 pure and perldoc can be (as its name suggests) documentation for Perl. I failed to mention that it also has the benefit that developers can read the perldoc if they care about method details - or they could read poddoc if they only want a 7000 ft view

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Paul Seamons
The outcome is that poddoc can be Pod6 pure and perldoc can be (as its name suggests) documentation for Perl. Sorry to reply to myself twice. Making poddoc independent of Perl 6 opens the doors a little further for having pythondoc and phpdoc and yourlanguageheredoc which extract the POD

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc

2007-06-21 Thread David Green
On 6/21/07, brian d foy wrote: Couldn't most of this be figured out by making Pod6 extensible (or whatever the right term is). Pod6 would be more of the syntax and basic operation, but other people could have custom directives that their Pod6 translators and formatters could then use. Yeah,

ANNOUNCE - Muldis::DB v0.0.0 released, in p5+p6

2007-06-21 Thread Darren Duncan
All, I am pleased to announce the release of Muldis::DB version 0.0.0 for Perl 5 on CPAN. You can see it now, with nicely HTMLized documentation, at: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Muldis-DB/ This is the first formal release of Muldis::DB, which began development last year (under the

Re: Quirky comments

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Larry Wall writes: I have a problem with both extremes, and I want to solve it with a dose of postmodern apathy. It may seem a bit insane, but I think that in print qq:to/END/ =for whatever END I would prefer that the =for is considered Pod by any standard Pod parser,

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14421 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Mark Overmeer writes: * Smylers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070616 09:09]: You're concerned that an aspect of Perl 6 might have too much freedom? Isn't Perl all about giving users freedom to choose their own way of doing something? Why treat documentation as a second-class citizen all the

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Moritz Lenz writes: You could help by contributing some suggestions to what the new Web module should be able to do, and how so. Web is hopefully CGI done right, and still in its early planning stage. Web module? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is it being planned, if not on this

Re: = at Start of Line ([svn:perl6-synopsis] r14421 - doc/trunk/design/syn)

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
brian d foy writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brian d foy writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. It's Pod. *Any* line that begins with '=begin' always starts a Pod block. Always. As

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Damian Conway writes: Here's the first draft (documented in Pod 6, of course ;-). Feedback and suggestions are most welcome. Note that C=alias is a fundamental Perldoc directive, like C=begin or C=for; it is Inot an instance of an Labbreviated block|#Abbreviated blocks. Hence there is no

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Damian Conway
Smylers reported: I was with you right up until the mention of C=encoding; what's that got to do with anything? CP bug. Patched. Thanks! Damian

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Darren Duncan writes: At 6:37 PM +0100 6/21/07, Smylers wrote: Web module? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is it being planned, if not on this list? It was being discussed on the perl6-users list, last year. Thanks. Smylers

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Damian Conway writes: Here's the first draft (documented in Pod 6, of course ;-). =head3 Ambient aliases The CA formatting code specifies an Balias to an ambient antecedent. Please can you explain the reasoning for choosing antecedent, rather than successor? I'm not disagreeing with

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Juerd Waalboer writes: Damian Conway skribis 2007-06-21 11:45 (+1000): A dedicated OO documentation tool could certainly do a better job in that case, I heartily agree. I'm looking forward to using one. This dedicated OO documentation must be core, because Perl itself is heavily OO.

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Juerd Waalboer
Smylers skribis 2007-06-21 21:33 (+0100): That doesn't follow. It's an opinion. I disagree. perldoc.perl.org was started by JJ, gained popularity, and then got awarded the official blessing of the onion. Over the years there have many several sites with Perl documenation. That's not a way

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

2007-06-21 Thread Moritz Lenz
Smylers wrote: Moritz Lenz writes: You could help by contributing some suggestions to what the new Web module should be able to do, and how so. Web is hopefully CGI done right, and still in its early planning stage. Web module? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is it being

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Juerd Waalboer writes: Smylers skribis 2007-06-21 21:33 (+0100): I disagree. perldoc.perl.org was started by JJ, gained popularity, and then got awarded the official blessing of the onion. Over the years there have many several sites with Perl documenation. That's not a way of

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

2007-06-21 Thread Smylers
Moritz Lenz writes: Smylers wrote: Moritz Lenz writes: Web is hopefully CGI done right ... why are we hoping that it will be done right? Because we hope we learned from the past. There are several other modules that fullfill most of CGI's tasks, some of them do most of it

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Damian Conway
Juerd wrote: Damian Conway skribis 2007-06-21 11:45 (+1000): A dedicated OO documentation tool could certainly do a better job in that case, I heartily agree. I'm looking forward to using one. This dedicated OO documentation must be core, because Perl itself is heavily OO. Yes. I

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A code

2007-06-21 Thread Damian Conway
brian asked: Couldn't most of this be figured out by making Pod6 extensible (or whatever the right term is). Pod6 would be more of the syntax and basic operation, but other people could have custom directives that their Pod6 translators and formatters could then use. That is, not all of this

Re: documentation standards (was [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14421 - doc/trunk/design/syn)

2007-06-21 Thread David Green
On 6/21/07, Smylers wrote: Mark Overmeer writes: The boundary between freedom and anacharchy is faint. Indeed. And I'd much rather we err on the side of anarchy. I'd much rather we didn't err at all! Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it's an error, or that it's not worth