Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:50:39PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: Its a higher level construct. Akin to telling your interior decorator that you'd like the furniture to match the wallpaper. You've left out all the details but the decorator can easily see what you're talking about. So

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:31:30PM -0400, Ken Fox wrote: not because language design is a fun thing to do of an evening. Huh? You mean I'm supposed to pretend to not enjoy myself? I keep all my hair shirts at work, thanks. Don't be stupid. I said we're *primarily* doing it for the good of

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread Jeremy Howard
Simon Cozens wrote: Right. You don't seem to be getting it, so I'm going to have to be harsh here. Are you sure? Is it possible that it's just that this isn't a side of programming you've had need for or are familiar with yourself? TMTOWTDI, you know, even if you're way is the best way. You

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:47:47PM +1000, Jeremy Howard wrote: I feel that your RFC misses the inclusive nature of perl. Then I withdraw it. Perl should not stay Perl, fuck it. Call me when it's time to get coding. -- Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread skud
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:54:25PM +0900, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:47:47PM +1000, Jeremy Howard wrote: I feel that your RFC misses the inclusive nature of perl. Then I withdraw it. Perl should not stay Perl, fuck it. Call me when it's time to get coding. This language is

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-05 Thread Chaim Frenkel
"SC" == Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SC On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:47:47PM +1000, Jeremy Howard wrote: I feel that your RFC misses the inclusive nature of perl. SC Then I withdraw it. Perl should not stay Perl, fuck it. Call me when it's SC time to get coding. I think you missed

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:05:38AM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: Suggestion: Can we manually renumber this "RFC 0"? This should be the first one at the top of the list, not buried somewhere within. my($.02). We *shouldn't* need to spell this out for people. It really, really terrifies me that we

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread skud
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Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread John Porter
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: =item Functional Programming Just because Perl has a Cmap operator, this doesn't make it a functional programming language. Perl has always been squarely procedural, It has also been roundly object-oriented and rectangularly functional, at least since

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Chaim Frenkel
I'm not quite buying into this. There are some things that are just easier with this style of thinking. Its a higher level construct. Akin to telling your interior decorator that you'd like the furniture to match the wallpaper. You've left out all the details but the decorator can easily see

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
"PRL" == Perl6 RFC Librarian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PRL =item Functional Programming PRL Just because Perl has a Cmap operator, this doesn't make it a PRL functional programming language. Perl has always been squarely PRL procedural, and so things like Creduce and Ccurry and other

Re: RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Ken Fox
Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: not because language design is a fun thing to do of an evening. Huh? You mean I'm supposed to pretend to not enjoy myself? I keep all my hair shirts at work, thanks. If that's the case, nobody wins if we bend the Perl language out of all recognition, because it

RFC 28 (v1) Perl should stay Perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Perl6 RFC Librarian
This and other RFCs are available on the web at http://tmtowtdi.perl.org/rfc/ =head1 TITLE Perl should stay Perl. =head1 VERSION Maintainer: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 4 2000 Version: 1 Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Number: 28