Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Carl Mäsak
Mark (), Moritz (), Larry via commit bot (): +PERL# Lexical symbols in the standard perlude Did you mean prelude instead? I took the quotation marks to indicate an intentional misspelling/coinage: perl + prelude = perlude. At which point one might ask oneself whether it is more

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Duncan
pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: In the abstract, Perl is written in Unicode, and has consistent Unicode -semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. +semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. By default +Perl presents Unicode in NFG formation, where

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Darren Duncan dar...@darrenduncan.net wrote: pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: By default Perl presents Unicode in NFG formation, where each grapheme counts as one character. A grapheme is what the novice user would think of as a character in their

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:49:13AM +0100, Carl Mäsak wrote: : Mark (), Moritz (), Larry via commit bot (): : +PERL# Lexical symbols in the standard perlude : : Did you mean prelude instead? : : I took the quotation marks to indicate an intentional : misspelling/coinage: perl +

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Larry Wall la...@wall.org wrote: We want something that comes outside your program, that is, a lexical scope that *surrounds* the file scope. We don't have a good word for that: circumlude? ambilude? [...] Or we could go with a more linguistic contextual

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Jon Lang
Larry Wall wrote: So I'm open to suggestions for what we ought to call that envelope if we don't call it the prelude or the perlude. Locale is bad, environs is bad, context is bad...the wrapper? But we have dynamic wrappers already, so that's bad. Maybe the setting, like a jewel? That has

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 08:30:25AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: So anyway, just because other languages call it a prelude doesn't mean that we have to. Perl is the tail that's always trying to wag the dog... What is the sound of one tail wagging? For my dog Sally, the sound of one tail wagging

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:30:02AM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote: pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: In the abstract, Perl is written in Unicode, and has consistent Unicode -semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. +semantics regardless of the underlying text

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:12 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: @@ -103,7 +106,7 @@ =item * POD sections may be used reliably as multiline comments in Perl 6. -Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now requires that C=begin comment +Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now lets you use C=begin

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:28:43AM -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: : On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:12 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: : @@ -103,7 +106,7 @@ : =item * : : POD sections may be used reliably as multiline comments in Perl 6. : -Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now requires

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Duncan
Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:30:02AM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote: What's with this NFG / Normal Form G that you refer to? I don't see any mention of that in http://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ ... did you mean NFC? Nope, this is a Perl/Parrot idea. It started out with a notion