Re: Cobra Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Walton
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:41 AM, yary not@gmail.com wrote: Perl is being actively developed for the Parrot VM. LLVM is another interesting option and if someone or some group would like to take it on, it would be a welcome alternate implementation. What parts in particular of Cobra and

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Damian Conway
Aaron Sherman asked: Should there be an explicit way to step this down to just parsing the bits that are called out as pod? The original conception allowed for Pod to be independent of the interleaved language. That has now been supplanted by a model that views Pod as an integral part of Perl.

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Carl Mäsak
Timothy ():        I'd actually be in favour of Masak's post being copied to the site (with attribution) and expanded, rather than just linked, if Carl is happy with the idea. [...] I'd be honoured. In general, consider anything I write on use.perl to be cc-attr-licenced.

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Moritz Lenz
Timothy S. Nelson wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 19:49 +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: +1. I have a set of 7 bookmarks that load in tabs that I call my Perl 6 bookmarks. I load this group of tabs into a separate web browser window when I'm

Re: Cobra Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Raphael Descamps
Also any thoughts on implementing Perl 6 on LLVM? Well, the planning is already under way... Parrot want to eventually use LLVM as one of the possible backend: http://wknight8111.blogspot.com/2009/09/first-steps-on-jit-overhaul.html At the moment, it is targeted for the 2.6 release:

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Saravanan T
Thanks everyone for sharing the links... Thought of working in porting Data::Dumper functionality in perl 6 .Seems like already there is .perl function which does the same.. and a monker mberends said there is a bug in circular references .. So i am thinking to get deep into the problem. Was

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Walton
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Saravanan T mail2sarava...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for sharing the links... Thought of working in porting Data::Dumper functionality in perl 6 .Seems like already there is .perl function which does the same.. and a monker mberends said there is a bug

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread yary
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Damian Conway dam...@conway.org wrote: Aaron Sherman asked: ... I'd very much like to establish that at default optimization levels for execution, this information is not guaranteed to be maintained past the creation of the AST. Unfortunately, it is. Perl 6

Re: Cobra Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread yary
Matthew Walton wrote Yes, Perl 6 does - it is not backwards compatible with Perl 5. That so? I thought Perl6 was supposed to recognize and execute perl5 code. That statement itself implies that perl6 and perl5 are different languages, and I'm not too interested in arguing over semantics. I am

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:12 -0700, yary wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Damian Conway dam...@conway.org wrote: Aaron Sherman asked: ... I'd very much like to establish that at default optimization levels for execution, this information is not guaranteed to be maintained past the

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Damian Conway
yary asked: Can some concept/implementation of $=POD lazyness only incur the memory and performance hit on access? IANAImplementor, but I suspect that virtually all of the performance hit could be incurred at run-time, if it happened to be implemented that way. The memory hit too, if

Announce: Rakudo Perl 6 development release #21 (Seattle)

2009-09-17 Thread jerry gay
On behalf of the Rakudo development team, I'm pleased to announce the September 2009 development release of Rakudo Perl #21 Seattle. Rakudo is an implementation of Perl 6 on the Parrot Virtual Machine [1]. The tarball for the September 2009 release is available from

Re: Cobra Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Walton
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM, yary not@gmail.com wrote: Matthew Walton wrote Yes, Perl 6 does - it is not backwards compatible with Perl 5. That so? I thought Perl6 was supposed to recognize and execute perl5 code. That statement itself implies that perl6 and perl5 are different

Re: Cobra Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Juan Madrigal
I'll take a look at web.pm and see I can get involved. Would be interesting to see if Catalyst is being ported over as well. I see Perl 6 really taking off if the tools for server side scripting/ web development get revamped to take on PHP's and Ruby's in terms of ease of use and

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Jon Lang
Not actually S26; but closely related: should $=POD and .WHY be read-only? Also, should there be other Pod variables besides $=POD? If so, which ones? Back on the subject of S26: should declarator blocks and aliases be able to introspect the object with which they're associated? That is, should