Re: Perl, the new generation

2001-05-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
What is Camel4 going to look like for perl 6? What is going to be required knowledge for perl6. Let's just start by looking at Apoc2. To use perl, you'll have to know Unicode, you'll have to know OO, you'll have to understand references. Those are three very technical concepts that make

Re: perl5 to perl6

2001-05-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
In this thread I've heard both perl6 is too different from perl5 and perl6 is too similar to perl5, without anybody naming the specific things that are problems and suggesting solutions. The old adage about programmers being like cats, constantly at the wrong side of the door, or at the both

Re: Perl, the new generation

2001-05-10 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
If you talk that way, people are going to start believing it. The typical Perl 6 program is not going to look very different from the typical Perl 5 program. The danger of us continually talking about the things we want to change is that people will forget to notice the tremendous amount

Re: State of PDD 0

2001-02-20 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:43:14PM -0800, Peter Scott wrote: At 05:30 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 02:15 PM 2/20/2001 -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: Bryan C. Warnock writes: Ask, all, are we reusing perl6-rfc as the submittal address, or will there be a new one (perl-pdd)?

Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name. Likewise. What's wrong with builders? -- Johan -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is

Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:48:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:57:02PM -0500, Bryan C . Warnock wrote: Particularly after this: http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc "Innovation-- you keep using this word, I do

Re: Critique available

2000-11-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Comparing the perl6-language and the perl5-porters simply doesn't fly. It's not even comparing apples and oranges, it's like comparing a busy market place and a faculty lunch. In the first case we are talking about a crowd of people most of which do not know each other, do not know what the

Re: Critique available

2000-11-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
I agree partly, but not fully. Where I agree is that we did a lousy job in having tighter control by not requiring authors to record the opposing opinions or pointed out deficiencies, not requiring more work on the implementation side, not bestowing more power to the chairs/moderators, and so

Re: Critique available

2000-11-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 03:42:41PM -0500, Andy Dougherty wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Nathan Torkington wrote: When an article in perl.com is so overwhelmingly negative about the work so far, do Yup. I can't see www.sun.com carrying an

how the FreeBSD project gets its core members

2000-10-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
http://www.bsdtoday.com/2000/October/News306.html -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: how the FreeBSD project gets its core members

2000-10-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 04:35:42PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: http://www.bsdtoday.com/2000/October/News306.html Oops, sorry about that, didn't read Ziggy's message first... -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable

Re: Reading list

2000-10-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:56:00AM -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new