Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about testing in general. Any recommendations for books on the subject? -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mar 23, 2015 3:19 AM, Moritz Lenz mor...@faui2k3.org wrote: That said, I wonder why tests need introspection at all. I mean, you test by doing example calls and comparing to expected example return values. No argument from me. I am at the point of trying to replicate, in Perl 6, somene

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
On 23 Mar 2015, at 14:11, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about testing in general. Any recommendations for books on the subject? Perl Testing

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen l...@dijkmat.nl wrote: On 23 Mar 2015, at 14:11, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: Any recommendations for books on the subject? Perl Testing - A Developer’s notebook: Thanks, Liz--getting it! -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Bruce Gray
On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about testing in general. Any recommendations for books on the subject? -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread B. Estrade
As good as this book is, it's still Perl 5 specific. So watch out if you're coming from Perl 5 land and Heaven forbid you're looking to do traditional things, you might get scolded for asking a reasonable question. o_O. Brett On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen l...@dijkmat.nl

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Henk van Oers
[...] From 2005, but still a fantastic primer on testing in Perl. Sorry Tom. I think you must read a book about OO. Unsubscribing from this list now, Regards, Henk

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Mäsak
(resending to p6u) Tom (), Henk (): That doesn't seem to work with private methods. Any trick to accomplish that? What part of 'private' did you mis? Henk, that's an unnecessarily harsh way to say Private methods are private and not visible or testable outside of the class. In my

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM, B. Estrade estr...@gmail.com wrote: As good as this book is, it's still Perl 5 specific. So watch out if you're coming from Perl 5 land and Heaven forbid you're looking to do traditional things, you might get scolded for asking a reasonable question. o_O.

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Henk van Oers h...@signature.nl wrote: From 2005, but still a fantastic primer on testing in Perl. Sorry Tom. I think you must read a book about OO. I will go back and review OO, Henk. Thanks. Best, -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-22 Thread Henk van Oers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2015 1:51 PM, Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de wrote: if $obj.^can($method_name) {... That doesn't seem to work with private methods. Any trick to accomplish that?

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-22 Thread Henk van Oers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Henk van Oers h...@signature.nl wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: I'm trying to write a test. To test what? Your own typo's? The tests are for a public Perl 6 module translated from an existing Perl 5

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-22 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2015 1:51 PM, Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de wrote: if $obj.^can($method_name) {... That doesn't seem to work with private methods. Any trick to accomplish that? -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-22 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Henk van Oers h...@signature.nl wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: I'm trying to write a test. To test what? Your own typo's? The tests are for a public Perl 6 module translated from an existing Perl 5 module. Do Perl 6 modules not need tests? If

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-22 Thread Henk van Oers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Henk van Oers h...@signature.nl wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2015 1:51 PM, Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de wrote: if

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-20 Thread Tobias Leich
if $obj.^can($method_name) {... Am 20.03.2015 um 19:38 schrieb Tom Browder: I am trying to create a testing subroutine to detect if a class object has a certain method. I want it to look something like this: my $obj = Foo.new(); can_ok($obj, 'method1'); sub can_ok($obj, Str

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-20 Thread Will Coleda
class bar { method foo () {}} my bar $a = bar.new(); say so $a.can(foo); True my Int $b; say so $b.can(foo); False I'm not sure this warrants a new _ok method. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to create a testing subroutine to detect if a

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Mar 20, 2015 1:51 PM, Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de wrote: if $obj.^can($method_name) {... Thanks, Tobias. Cheers! -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-20 Thread Will Coleda
use Test; class bar { method foo () {}} ok bar.can(foo), stuff; ok 1 - stuff On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2015 1:50 PM, Will Coleda w...@coleda.com wrote: class bar { method foo () {}} my bar $a = bar.new(); say so $a.can(foo);

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Mar 20, 2015 2:07 PM, Will Coleda w...@coleda.com wrote: use Test; class bar { method foo () {}} ok bar.can(foo), stuff; ok 1 - stuff Oops (I say as I slap my forehead)! Thanks, Will. -Tom