On 11/15/17 16:06, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Here is the final patch set for the conversion.
I have committed this.
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instances that must have wal_level =
> logical
> defined.
That is explained in the section before the one you are looking at.
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the number of result sets. But the
relationship should always be deterministic.
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e are trying to
get rid of it (by moving these settings to postgresql.conf, mostly). So
I don't think we need to spend a lot of time rationalizing this at this
point.
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them, be sure
> to get Flex 2.5.31 or later and
>
committed
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es this sentence mean that every correct plan will *in most cases*
> output
> the same row set? Or something different altogether?
This is a slightly silly way of saying, if the code is correct, then
every plan will output the same set of rows.
I think it's OK to leave it like that.
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numbers in the next that don't match the
EXPLAIN output?
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s note outdated? A brief look into history of
CheckSelectLocking() suggests that it might never have been correct.
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to be updatable, or the
+ DECLARE command will error if an updatable cursor
+ cannot be created for the supplied query.
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in every aspect of the system. So as a user when I'm dealing with
operating system integration, or schema design, or backups, or
replication, or monitoring, etc., then I want to know about the security
concerns on that subject.
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Pos
docbooc-xsl dir.
But these are sections inside ref pages, so they don't have numbers.
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.3 Debian Packages
>
> "docbook" and "dbtopub" missed in install command.
>
> make world works after above to package installed.
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On 1/5/18 16:38, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM, Peter Eisentraut
> <peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com
> <mailto:peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com>> wrote:
>
> On 1/4/18 09:09, PG Doc comments form wrote:
> > The following docu
rst of
> the month, which will cause conflicts. The last date needs to be the final
> day of the same month.
I don't think so, because the upper bound of the range is not included
in the range.
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gt;
> in the overlay example, there should only be 'xxx' instead of ''. (the
> 'xxx' is being replaced with 'hom'.)
The example correctly illustrates that the replacement string does not
have to have the same length as the string being replaced.
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quot;);
test_connect_fails($common_connstr, "sslmode=require
sslcert=ssl/client.crt");
If you change the Makefile rule for generating the client CA to omit the
-extensions v3_ca option, then the first test will fail.
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omething I am missing here?
It might work sometimes, especially if you are trying it on a dummy
setup, but it's not going to work in general.
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ible between different PostgreSQL
> versions, which is only possible using pglogical.
The documentation is correct.
(The only caveat is that there are currently no other versions than 10
that have built-in logical replication, but if there were any, it would
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oving the password column from this example or replacing the
> md5 hash with something more secure (a secure hash algorithm with a salt).
We don't have any other hash functions built in and exposed at the SQL
level. (Maybe that is a problem.) Do you have any other ideas how to
rewrite tha
On 10/3/17 03:16, Alexander Lakhin wrote:
> While working on translation I've found a wrong name in credits:
> Fakhroutdinov Evgenievich
That's how the name was entered in bug #14682.
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On 2/3/18 00:08, Alexander Lakhin wrote:
> Hello,
> 03.02.2018 00:56, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On 10/3/17 03:16, Alexander Lakhin wrote:
>>> While working on translation I've found a wrong name in credits:
>>> Fakhroutdinov Evgenievich
>> That's how the na
ion items, because I don't want to go into the details
of how SCRAM works on the wire.
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From 34eff9bd65ca051c3ba173476e3f9360ee0d51b9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eise
latter would make more sense if anyone was inspired to
> write something comparable in length to the existing per-index-type
> chapters. But I'm not volunteering to do that, so if it's a chapter it'd
> be a mighty thin one to start with.
xindex seems better to me.
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oving the password column from this example or replacing the
> md5 hash with something more secure (a secure hash algorithm with a salt).
This has been fixed in the master branch.
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quot;magic incantations" are that generate this
> navfooter?
This comes from the DocBook XSL stylesheets. The stuff in
stylesheet.xsl and similar is just a customization layer on top of those.
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All but one of the links at the end of
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/static/installation-platform-notes.html#INSTALLATION-NOTES-AIX>
redirect to some generic documentation home page. Anyone care enough to
find updated locations?
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I have committed the proposed changes now.
We can substitute better links when we have them, but for now we don't
appear to have any.
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a lot of downloads.
Why not go further and just ship the release notes of the current major
version. If you want to look at the release notes of version 11, read
the documentation for version 11. Who reads the documentation of
version 12 to get the release notes of version 11?
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nt the setup of popular packages in the main
documentation, but we currently don't, and we would have to do it more
consistently across platforms.
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On 16.07.18 20:42, Liudmila Mantrova wrote:
> I have noticed uncommon English syntax in datatype.sgml, with two full
> sentences following a colon in the same paragraph.
I don't understand what's wrong with that.
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hp.com seem to have gone away on or about 28Aug2018.
> They also fall under the heading of HP OpenVMS Systems Doc which may explain
> why they've disappeared.
This has already been fixed in git and will be in the next minor
releases. Thanks.
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gt; collation to use for the index, or zero if the column is not of a collatable
> data type."
It's a standard convention in the PostgreSQL system catalogs that OID
zero means "none". There are likely many places where this is not
explicitly documented.
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On 29.06.18 18:51, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 29 Jun 2018, at 15:08, Peter Eisentraut
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/28/18 13:19, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>> Unless someone steps up before 11 is rolled, maybe builddoc.pl should be
>>> made
>>> into
tml
>
> If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, depth)”
> the expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs above
> it.
This was that way in the source. Probably originally 8-space tabs.
I've fixed it now.
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ctions up one level in the
hierarchy so they end up on separate HTML pages.
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From ef0ffbfae26a344310cd710c1249b0a8018bccee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisent
On 3/28/18 21:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 3/23/18 08:56, Daniel Westermann wrote:
>> is it only me who sees blanks before the first word in the first line of
>> the code boxes, e.g. here:
>>
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html
>>
reatetable.html
>
> For the devel documentation it is fine:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html
>
> Tested in Firefox and Chrome.
Yeah, that looks weird. I'll look into it.
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On 3/28/18 21:36, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>
>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut
>> <peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com
>> <mailto:peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com>> wrote:
>>> Yeah, that looks weird. I'll look into it.
>>
>>
be added) and
inheritance roots (which can).
> 2.) Will it only work on current descendants or will it also work on
> future descendants?
only current
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hunk.xsl"/>
> + href="https://cdn.docbook.org/release/xsl-nons/current/xhtml/chunk.xsl"/>
That would affect those who are currently relying on catalog entries
redirecting the old URLs to their local copy.
I think we will at least need to wait for a new release with new
catal
IGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...
(with a line break)
but before it looks like
... ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...
(without a line break).
So maybe some part of the processing code thinks it should do some kind
of "indentation" here.
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>>
>
> Patch applied and backpatched to Postgres 10. Thank.s
Per the nearby discussion, this should probably also be backpatched further.
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> think the word "checkpoint" is unnecessary here. I tried to rephrase
> this definition in fix_checkpoint_warning_definition_doc.patch.
This was more appropriate when the related parameter was called
checkpoint_segments, but now it indeed seems confusing. Also fixed.
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Certainly more so then some-person-on-github's latest idea for how to
convert ASCII art into diagrams.
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On 6/28/18 13:19, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> Unless someone steps up before 11 is rolled, maybe builddoc.pl should be made
> into a exit immediately no-op since "nothing" is better than “broken”?
I'm thinking, just delete the file and the documentation section.
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don't think the statement is incorrect or inappropriate.
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PL/Py
> is broken. Specifically, the link shown is
> http://python.projects.postgresql.org/backend/, which redirects to
> http://python.projects.pgfoundry.org/backend/ and returns 404. I don't know
> what the correct link should be, if any.
This was already removed in the PostgreSQL 10 docume
On 07/09/2018 01:27, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut writes:
>> On 07/09/2018 00:58, PG Doc comments form wrote:
>>> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/libpq-ssl.html
>>> Version 10
>>> The pointers off to hp.com seem to have gone away on
, presumably for the reasons you identified inside the SVG code.
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From e2647f228f7cb4b553e858b61a0e86f7740b627e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut
Date: Th
On 2019-03-28 01:50, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut writes:
>> This has been committed. The SVG images are committed as well, so no
>> new tools are required.
>
> Buildfarm member alabio seems less than pleased.
See
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/695560/assist
w, let's see if it recovers.
>
>
> FYI, it did recover. Per above, I think this is something we should
> document.
It seems like this is a Debian/Ubuntu-specific packaging issue. We
could document it, but I wonder if it's just a transient thing.
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screen. Is that better?
>
> Yes - we can control how much of the screen the image will take up with
> the Bootstrap grid CSS classes, which is what the patch on the pgweb
> side does.
How do you do it outside of Bootstrap?
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bile.
Image scaling is currently intentionally disabled for the HTML output
(see ignore.image.scaling in stylesheet-html-common.xsl). But if we
turn it on, then the images will automatically be huge if you have large
screen. Is that better?
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of the tools ...
The portability is not something I'm concerned about, but Ditaa requires
Java, so that might annoy some people.
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else we'll forever
> be fighting silly markup errors. That's not a productive use of
> anybody's time.
Let me rephrase: I'm agree that portability is important, and I'm
confident that the tools in question are portable enough.
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to proceed in this direction.
(We can have some discussion about whether we want to commit the
intermediate SVG files and what the directory layout should be etc. I
didn't bother with that in my patch yet.)
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How do you get from the Inkscape SVG files to the what you call
"optimized SVG" files?
I loaded the gin_inkscape.svg file into Inkscape, saved it back out as
"Plain SVG", but the resultant file did not look at all similar to the
existing gin.svg.
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uate
> it in deep. If it is an urgent problem (I have seen that the
> commitfest-entry is tagged as "release 12") we shall shift the pg_dump
> figure to a later release.
The problem is that images don't show up in man pages, so we can't put
any images in there, or it w
for IDs. (At some
point, underscores where not allowed. I'm surprised that that's no
longer the case.) I also wouldn't put "_svg" into the ID. The format
is irrelevant to the ID.
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On 24/01/2019 00:53, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> This is a pretty complicated issue with a lot of back-story. I am
> thinking Tatsuo or me will probably commit it before March.
Isn't that all the more reason to add it to the commitfest?
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ld start with
> the line
>
> CREATE SEQUENCE tablename_colname_seq AS INTEGER;
fixed
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d review. Please find attached my proposed
> little doc patch for this issue.
committed
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On 2019-05-30 16:34, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 2:33 PM Peter Eisentraut
> wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-05-12 10:14, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>> I noticed that in our docs for PG12 there is no SQL-2016, but we actually
>>> have JSON Path implementati
generated by Graphviz.
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From d60477ca234f761c5a3509f31b975576f63564ca Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:49:21 +0200
Sub
On 2019-06-11 13:19, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Commit 29046c44f36099f4c979b1491fcf27db2f9184f9 manually edited the SVG
> file generated by Ditaa, which was kind of what we wanted to avoid
> having to do. Here is an automated way to take care of the same thing,
> by using an XSL
re the patch ?
I have now updated the feature list to SQL:2016. All the
SQL/JSON-related features are currently set to "NO". Please propose
patches to update that.
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you want to change it to a warning
box, then you also need to rephrase the surrounding text. But I don't
really see the need. It seems fine as it is.
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ould you use them for? Who goes
to the documentation (or any other book-like material) thinking, I'm in
the mood to look at some tables today, let's see what's in them.
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eover, we had an image for every topic. Then
learning by just flipping through the images would be interesting. But
we are not nearly there yet. Promoting a list of images now would just
make those looking for that kind of learning sad.
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file
systems can be added more easily.
Can anyone suggest some succinct advice on what file systems are
supported on Windows (see XXX in the patch)?
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On 2019-04-23 13:00, Martín Marqués wrote:
> Didn''t read the proposed patch, but would like to point out that I
> would also add that it has to be mounted without file attribute caching.
Why?
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On 2019-04-23 16:15, Joe Conway wrote:
> On 4/23/19 9:47 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On 2019-04-23 14:31, Joe Conway wrote:
>>> Looks like you dropped the advice WRT the asynchronous mount option.
>>> Isn't that is still relevant?
>>
>> I don't think tha
On 2019-04-23 14:31, Joe Conway wrote:
> Looks like you dropped the advice WRT the asynchronous mount option.
> Isn't that is still relevant?
I don't think that advice was correct. An async mounted NFS file system
will flush data on fsync, which is what one wants.
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On 2019-04-23 18:53, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut writes:
>> On 2019-04-23 16:15, Joe Conway wrote:
>>> I don't think so. Not sure if you have an account at Red Hat, but this
>>> ticket covers it:
>>> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/48199
>
>
On 2019-04-26 09:41, Thomas Munro wrote:
> Those options are Linux-specific -- maybe just say so?
committed with that change
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On 2019-07-01 13:48, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 26 Jun 2019, at 15:09, Peter Eisentraut
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-06-14 10:47, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>> The warning about using ident for authorization or access control is using a
>>> with an
On 2019-09-25 00:13, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut writes:
>> PostgreSQL 12 requires C99, so those guidelines should probably be
>> rephrased from "because old compilers don't accept it" to "because we
>> like it that way".
>
> Yeah, or more
t probably not all that much -- but
> there can certainly be cases where nearby langaugae also has to be
> changed to make it work properly. But I have a hard time seeing it as
> being a *huge* undertaking.
I find this proposal to be dubious and unsubstantiated. Do we need to
get rid of &q
L commands).
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From 953847e5d5ead9987e29817c75a2a6ae990befd7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:43:18 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] doc:
"a
generated column" for easier reading
The current wording seems more precise. It's the expression that does
the referencing, not the column itself. There could be other things
attached to a column to could reference other things or not.
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On 2019-10-19 18:54, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Here is a patch to make more use of and in the docs,
> instead of the plain ASCII "-". I think this is nicer to read in some
> cases and in other cases makes the appearance consistent with the text
> generated by the Do
that word from our
> docs ?
$ git grep -w master | wc -l
611
You might be thinking of "slave".
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le being preferred to // style since I'm
> not entierly convinced postgres compiles on C89 anyways.
PostgreSQL 12 requires C99, so those guidelines should probably be
rephrased from "because old compilers don't accept it" to "because we
like it that way".
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hese individuals use when posting to these mailing lists, in
whichever order they prefer. So as far as I'm concerned, the forms
listed in the release notes for PG10 and PG11 are canonical and should
continue to be used.
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Is
> that only the case when they appear in tandem?
Again, you might be confusing this. I don't recall any such initiative
nor do I see any commits to that effect.
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be banned. In
which case that would certainly propagate to the web site, the wiki,
other nearby resources, some of which certainly do use that term
liberally in various configurations. So we should think that through
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probably no big extra
effort to do other supported branches as well.
Committed to 12, 11, 10. After that the patch didn't apply anymore and
nobody should be upgrading to that anyway.
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the example.
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On 2020-04-21 21:04, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:10:09PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On 2020-04-14 10:03, Jürgen Purtz wrote:
The example "XSLT Stylesheet for Converting SQL/XML Output to HTML" is
tagged as , but it isn't a figure, it's an example scri
e packages for this. We should
write instructions for this in any case.
(With this you can undo the other patches discussed here and just write
and it should look correctly.)
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shipped
with the name as it did, and users know it as such. If we start
retroactively renaming all functionality when we change our mind, it
will create complete madness. New ideas belong into the master branch.
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into the built PDF.
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be hands-on, how do you get started, how do you get some results.
Your material is more of an overview of the whole system. What's a new
user supposed to do with that?
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r examples, figures and tables and shows it
in the wrong list. We should change the tagging.
Why is it wrong to make this a figure?
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On 2020-05-19 08:17, Laurenz Albe wrote:
The term "cluster" is unfortunate, because to most people it suggests a group of
machines, so the term "instance" is better, but that ship has sailed long ago.
I don't see what would stop us from renaming some things, with
, but other
processors don't necessarily require it.
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for this then.
The same criticism applies to the documentation patch, I think. We
don't usually make the schema part explicit.
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Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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see and
which are both sect2s in the same chapter, then you get a rendered text of
see Section 24.1.1 and autovacuum
which is bizarre.
If you want the link appearance to change only in the release notes,
then the right approach is to use the tag, as was done before.
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that one of them is
unprofessional and then leave it at that and give no further guidance.
I think we should leave this out.
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