Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005-07-14 00:57:57 -0400: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 02:46:01PM +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: The first sentence rules out MySQL, so the second sentence should read So that leaves Postgres. Your problem is solved ;-) (If you are accustomed to

[GENERAL] Case insensitive unique constraint

2005-07-14 Thread Rob Brenart
I have a simple table to store account names... I want each name to be unique in a case insensitive manner... but I want the case the user enters to be remembered so I can't do a simple lower() on the data's way in. Is there an easy way to go about this? Am I about to write my first server

[GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Martynas Brijunas
Hello, I am a total newbie to PostgreSql, coming from MS Access background. I have a question regarding queries in PostgreSql: why do I need to enclose every field name and table name in quotation marks like SELECT Name From contacts That is a major inconvenience when composing a query

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Gregory S. Williamson
This is only really necessary if the table or column names are mixed cases or include spaces or some such ... normally (?) this is not required. PostgreSQL relentlessly lower cases such names unless they are double quoted. HTH, Greg Williamson DBA GlobeXplorer LLC -Original Message-

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Neil == Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neil Does MySQL with InnoDB not qualify as an ACID-compliant database? Not when you can store a value that is larger than allowed, and it is silently truncated to be within range. no *I* integrity there. That's regardless of InnoDB or not. MySQL

Re: [GENERAL] Case insensitive unique constraint

2005-07-14 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005-07-14 02:14:16 -0500: I have a simple table to store account names... I want each name to be unique in a case insensitive manner... but I want the case the user enters to be remembered so I can't do a simple lower() on the data's way in. CREATE TABLE tbl (col

Re: [GENERAL] Case insensitive unique constraint

2005-07-14 Thread Klint Gore
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:14:16 -0500, Rob Brenart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple table to store account names... I want each name to be unique in a case insensitive manner... but I want the case the user enters to be remembered so I can't do a simple lower() on the data's way in.

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 00:57 -0400 schrieb Alvaro Herrera: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 02:46:01PM +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: The first sentence rules out MySQL, so the second sentence should read So that leaves Postgres. Your problem is solved ;-) (If you are

Re: [GENERAL] Case insensitive unique constraint

2005-07-14 Thread Andreas Seltenreich
Rob Brenart schrob: I have a simple table to store account names... I want each name to be unique in a case insensitive manner... but I want the case the user enters to be remembered so I can't do a simple lower() on the data's way in. Is there an easy way to go about this? Would creating

Re: [GENERAL] Japanese words not distinguished

2005-07-14 Thread Harry Mantheakis
C locale and en_* locales give different ordering (at least under Linux). The en_* ordering is case insensitive, and the C locale ordering is case sensitive because it is simply comparing the ASCII codes. You could use lower/upper to get case insensitive ordering with C locale. Okay, that's

Re: [GENERAL] Transparent encryption in PostgreSQL?

2005-07-14 Thread Joachim Wieland
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:18:04PM -0500, Bob wrote: Here is the link in case your fingers are broken and it hurts to type;) http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/encryption-options.html I think the Password Storage Encryption paragraph needs a note similar to what Stephen Frost wrote

Re: [GENERAL] Stopping Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread Richard Huxton
David Mitchell wrote: What is the best way to quickly and reliably stop postgres? We've found that pg_ctl doesn't work for us very well, frequently failing to actually stop the postmaster (it times out and reports that it has failed to stop). This is the same even if we use -m immediate.

[GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Leif Jensen
Hi all, I am trying to make a stored procedure in C that is used as a trigger on before/after insert/update on a certain table. This procedure might do inserts/updates on the same table (recursively triggering itself). I have made (pretty) sure that I'm not using 'global' variables in

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Magnus Hagander
The first sentence rules out MySQL, so the second sentence should read So that leaves Postgres. Your problem is solved ;-) (If you are accustomed to Oracle, you are probably expecting an ACID database, which rules out MySQL too). Does MySQL with InnoDB not qualify as an

Re: [GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Leif Jensen
Oops, I forgot to say that I have tried PostgreSQL 7.4.1, 7.4.6, and 7.4.7 all with the same result. I'm running this on a Linux (Slackware 10.0), kernel 2.6.10y. Leif On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Leif Jensen wrote: Hi all, I am trying to make a stored procedure in C that is used as a

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.0.3

2005-07-14 Thread Solange
As to make the connection with the data base PostgreSQL 8.0.3 being used the address localhost in Ipv6([::1 ]) ? It is possible?

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Relyea, Mike
You only need to use quotes in your SQL statements if your table names in PostgreSQL contain any upper case letters. PostgreSQL automatically converts all of your SQL statements to lower case unless they're quoted. As an alternative to quoting in VB (assuming you're using Access as your FE),

Re: [GENERAL] Stopping Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
David Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the best way to quickly and reliably stop postgres? We've found that pg_ctl doesn't work for us very well, frequently failing to actually stop the postmaster (it times out and reports that it has failed to stop). This is the same even if we

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Russ Brown
How difficult would it be to add a configuration option (at the global, database or session level) to make PostgreSQL transparently quote identifiers for you? That would be a simple way to allow users to use case-sensitive names without quoting everything manually or changing deep parts of the

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas F. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, if I do a lookup by oid for 94144936 in pg_class, I don't see it. And, clearly, it's not in $PGDATA/base/32019395. You should be looking at relfilenode. See http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/storage.html and/or use oid2name to

Re: [GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Leif Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to make a stored procedure in C that is used as a trigger on before/after insert/update on a certain table. This procedure might do inserts/updates on the same table (recursively triggering itself). I have made (pretty) sure that I'm not

Re: [GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Leif Jensen
Hi Tom, Thank you for the suggestions. I didn't know anything about SPI_push and SPI_pop and I will walk through my code and stuff them in. Am I looking at some wrong documentation ? I never saw anything about those ? Do you know any good examples doing such things ? Leif On Thu, 14

Re: [GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Leif Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for the suggestions. I didn't know anything about SPI_push and SPI_pop and I will walk through my code and stuff them in. Am I looking at some wrong documentation ? I never saw anything about those ? They weren't well documented in old

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.0.3

2005-07-14 Thread Richard Huxton
Solange wrote: As to make the connection with the data base PostgreSQL 8.0.3 being used the address localhost in Ipv6([::1 ]) ? It is possible? I think it should be possible to connect via IPv6, so long as your operating-system supports it properly. Have you found problems? PS - did you

Re: [GENERAL] Recursive stored procedure in C.

2005-07-14 Thread Leif Jensen
Hi again, Thanks. No changes on this 7.x.x - 8.x.x ? .. and just to be sure: SPI_exec does the SPI_push/SPI_pop thing too ? Leif On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Tom Lane wrote: Leif Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for the suggestions. I didn't know anything about SPI_push and

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Tony Caduto
The easiest solution is just not to use caps or spaces in your table/object names, there is no advantage to doing so. People just need to get over the fact that having caps in a name make it easier to read. My Test Table should be my_test_table, the naming makes no difference to the

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 23:57, Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 02:46:01PM +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: The first sentence rules out MySQL, so the second sentence should read So that leaves Postgres. Your problem is solved ;-) (If you are accustomed to

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Peter Fein
Tony Caduto wrote: The easiest solution is just not to use caps or spaces in your table/object names, there is no advantage to doing so. People just need to get over the fact that having caps in a name make it easier to read. Not to pick nits, but I disagree. Capitalization (CamelCase in

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Matt Miller
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 14:32 +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think you can use just plpgsql's parser. ... it relies on the main backend parser If you're content to treat expressions and SQL queries as opaque strings, you shouldn't need to concern yourself with the

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
The oid in question does not correspond to a relfilenode, and oid2name -o 94144936 doesn't return anything when run against the database in question. Could this be related to temp tables? We use a lot of them in data imports, and this was a point of discussion on IRC. Having a limited

Re: [GENERAL] DB/clog corruption

2005-07-14 Thread Reid Thompson
Tom Lane wrote: Reid Thompson writes: $ pg_dump -f table_dump.sql -t table_with_error dbname FATAL 2: read of clog file 1559, offset 0 failed: Success You've got a clobbered tuple header in that file (ridiculous xmin or xmax value). Alternatively, given the evident age of this server, it

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas F. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could this be related to temp tables? Possibly, given that the table doesn't seem to be there anymore. Does bgwriter operate on temp tables, and could there exist an edge condition in which bgwriter might have scheduled a write to disk for a

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Richard_D_Levine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/14/2005 10:38:43 AM: On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 14:32 +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think you can use just plpgsql's parser. ... it relies on the main backend parser If you're content to treat expressions and SQL queries as

Re: [GENERAL] Data type to store latitude and longitude

2005-07-14 Thread woodb
Hi guys, Is there a data type to store data extracted from a GPS? The only thing I need is store latitude and longitude. Thanks in advance, There are a few options, Using basic Postgresql: store the lats as +-90 longs as 0-360 or +-180 numeric datatypes. create a numeric array

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Ted Slate
To everyone, Thanks very much for your replies, and if these responses are any indication of Postgres quality then I'd be in good hands. Ted _ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!

Re: [GENERAL] To Postgres or not

2005-07-14 Thread Gregory Youngblood
On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:57 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 02:46:01PM +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: The first sentence rules out MySQL, so the second sentence should  read "So that leaves Postgres".  Your problem is solved ;-)(If you are accustomed to Oracle, you are

[GENERAL] cursors problem

2005-07-14 Thread Ковалевский Андрей
Hi! Is there any possibility to get the number of rows resulted by SELECT CURSOR? Best Regards, Andrei. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:49:56AM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote: Does bgwriter operate on temp tables, and could there exist an edge condition in which bgwriter might have scheduled a write to disk for a file corresponding to a temp table that was removed by sudden termination of

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 03:38:43PM +, Matt Miller wrote: The main parser depends (at least) on the List handling and memory handling. The PL/PgSQL parser also depends on these, although to a lesser degree. I suppose these dependencies are okay as long as I can just link my

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:07:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know, what would be *totally* cool is to implement Oracle PL/SQL syntax transparently in PostgreSQL. You just can't do packages in PL/pgSQL. You can mimic them with schemas, but there are things that must be done

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suggested that bgwriter may be the culprit, mainly because the log lines were not preceded by the log_line_prefix as the other lines in the log. See an extract here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/awxFnY15.html Hmm, what are the logging configuration

Re: [GENERAL] Converting MySQL tinyint to PostgreSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:52:04PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Ron Mayer wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Well, you get another issue, alignment. If you squeeze your string down, the next field, if it is an int or string, will get padded to a multiple of 4 negating most of the

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
Sorry, I didn't have the evidence about the bgwriter before. It was based on conjecture on IRC last night and newly gathered evidence from this morning. Here's a list of current postgres processes on the box. postgres 1186 2.8 5.0 437812 417624 ? SJul13 22:37 postgres: writer

Re: [GENERAL] getting the ranks out of items with SHARED

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Janning Vygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and this is the combined statement: UPDATE temp_gc SET gc_rank = ranking.rank FROM ( SELECT *, ranking(r1.gc_gesamtpunkte, r1.gc_gesamtsiege) AS rank FROM ( SELECT mg_name,

Re: [GENERAL] strange error with temp table: pg_type_typname_nsp_index

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Janning Vygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PERFORM n.nspname ,c.relname FROM pg_catalog.pg_class c LEFT JOIN pg_catalog.pg_namespace n ON n.oid = c.relnamespace WHERE n.nspname like 'pg_temp_%' AND pg_catalog.pg_table_is_visible(c.oid) AND

Re: [GENERAL] Quotation marks in queries

2005-07-14 Thread Russ Brown
Tony Caduto wrote: The easiest solution is just not to use caps or spaces in your table/object names, there is no advantage to doing so. People just need to get over the fact that having caps in a name make it easier to read. My Test Table should be my_test_table, the naming makes no

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas F. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, this is a system where the interloper is superuser (and, yes, changing this has been a TODO). But even so, I need help understanding how one backend could access the temp table of another. You'd have to do it pretty explicitly:

Re: [GENERAL] i need you help about postgresql(rollback)

2005-07-14 Thread Jaime Casanova
On 7/13/05, Nee.Mem(倪明) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: systemguards,hi! i see you wrote on this page http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-07/msg00319.php test exsample: create or replace function test() returns void as ' begin delete

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Matt Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... The stuff in src/pl/plpgsql/src/ looked like a good starting point. gram.y and scan.l are there. pl_funcs.c has some cool-looking dump* functions. Now, can this stuff be straightforwardly hacked into a program that gets its PL/pgSQL source code from

[GENERAL] Help needed with PGOleDB driver and ADO

2005-07-14 Thread Craig Bryden
Hi We have a numeric field in our table. When setting the value of this field to 1.00, we experience the following problem when using ADO (with the PgOleDB driver) to query the table. the field comes back correctly identified as a NUMERIC field, but the actual value of of the field is

Re: [GENERAL] Standalone Parser for PL/pgSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 15:38 + schrieb Matt Miller: On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 14:32 +1000, Neil Conway wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think you can use just plpgsql's parser. ... it relies on the main backend parser If you're content to treat expressions and SQL

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
On Jul 14, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Thomas F. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, this is a system where the interloper is superuser (and, yes, changing this has been a TODO). But even so, I need help understanding how one backend could access the temp table of

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
So my first instinct was to avoid use of temp tables in this scenario altogether, but now I'm thinking all I might need to do is unhook the temp tables from inheritance. But I just want to raise a basic reliability issu raised in the nearby Autovacuum loose ends thread issue before I

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas F. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does pg_autovacuum as currently written in contrib vacuum temp tables, and, in 8.0, is this then able (however unlikely) to cause the sort of error I encountered yesterday? No, and no, and still no for the integrated version. The

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:08:48PM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote: So my first instinct was to avoid use of temp tables in this scenario altogether, but now I'm thinking all I might need to do is unhook the temp tables from inheritance. But I just want to raise a basic reliability issu

Re: [GENERAL] Converting MySQL tinyint to PostgreSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:30:36AM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:52:04PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: This is a good point. We have always stored data on disk that exactly matches its layout in memory. We could change that, but no one has shown it would be a win.

Re: [GENERAL] chosing a database name

2005-07-14 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:18:34PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: I concur with this advice. Just use a sequence number which happens to correspond with your software release numbers... or not. They can be separate, especially once you get more stable and have more software updaes than

Re: [GENERAL] chosing a database name

2005-07-14 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:18:30AM +1000, Tim Allen wrote: Others have given you some of the advice I would have given. One more suggestion - does your database fit in just one schema in the gnumed database? It would, for the time being, size-wise. However, we have conceptually separated the

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
From this thread, these two bits about PostgreSQL stand out: I have an old note to myself that persistent write errors could clog the bgwriter, because I was worried that after an error it would stupidly try to write the same buffer again instead of trying to make progress elsewhere. (CVS tip

Re: [GENERAL] Stopping Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread David Mitchell
I'm using PG 8.0.1 on Gentoo Linux (kernel 2.6.10 SMP) on Pentium 4 w/ HT. I run the following as root: su postgres -c pg_ctl stop -D /var/lib/postgresql/data -m fast Or with -m immediate. Some of the backends stop but others never shutdown. Even if I do a killall postmaster (just with

Re: [GENERAL] Case insensitive unique constraint

2005-07-14 Thread Rob Brenart
Klint Gore wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:14:16 -0500, Rob Brenart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple table to store account names... I want each name to be unique in a case insensitive manner... but I want the case the user enters to be remembered so I can't do a simple lower() on

Re: [GENERAL] Stopping Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
David Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I run the following as root: su postgres -c pg_ctl stop -D /var/lib/postgresql/data -m fast Or with -m immediate. Some of the backends stop but others never shutdown. Even if I do a killall postmaster (just with sigterm, not -9), these backends hang

[GENERAL] gborg down

2005-07-14 Thread Joe Healy
Hi apache test page is showing at 2005-07-15 09:00 AEST. Joe. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [GENERAL] Converting MySQL tinyint to PostgreSQL

2005-07-14 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:29:23PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:30:36AM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:52:04PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: This is a good point. We have always stored data on disk that exactly matches its layout in

Re: [GENERAL] gborg down

2005-07-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
back up ... On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Joe Healy wrote: Hi apache test page is showing at 2005-07-15 09:00 AEST. Joe. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: could not open relation

2005-07-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
One other detail: pg_autovacuum is running on this system. I just noticed this from Tom's Autovacuum loose ends post from earlier today: The code does not make a provision to ignore temporary tables. Although vacuum.c and analyze.c will disregard the request to touch such tables, it'd

Re: [GENERAL] strange error with temp table: pg_type_typname_nsp_index

2005-07-14 Thread Janning Vygen
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2005 16:04 schrieb Tom Lane: Janning Vygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just testing some configuration settings, especially increasing shared_buffers and setting fsync to false. And suddenly it happens 3 times out of ten that i get this error. Could you put

Re: [GENERAL] getting the ranks out of items with SHARED

2005-07-14 Thread Janning Vygen
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2005 15:35 schrieb Tom Lane: Janning Vygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this way it works: CREATE TEMP TABLE ranking AS *Q*; EXECUTE 'UPDATE temp_gc SET gc_rank = ranking.rank FROM ranking WHERE temp_gc.mg_name = ranking.mg_name;'; and this way it doesn't:

[GENERAL] How to obtain the list of data table name only

2005-07-14 Thread Sunny
Hi, I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I can obtain only the list of data table in postgresql without function and other ancillary tables. I hope that I can add a tag that can filter only data table. I am using the following SQL Statement: SELECT TABLE_NAME, TABLE_TYPE FROM

Re: [GENERAL] What's Popular for CMS and RAD with PHP/PostgreSQL?

2005-07-14 Thread John DeSoi
On Jul 13, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Google Mike wrote: Using PHP and PostgreSQL only, what do you feel are the most popular CMS and RAD tools out there? Drupal is a very nice CMS for PHP and PostgreSQL. I'm using it for some consulting projects now and it has saved me a great deal of time.

Re: [GENERAL] Looking for a good ERD Tool

2005-07-14 Thread Rob Brenart
I was afraid of that, it's such a useless duplication of effort, but what can you do... what's EMS Manager though, I'm just using phpPgAdmin EMS is a more polished version phpPgAdmin has a lot more features I dunno if I'd define the same way you have, one of the great things about