[GENERAL] Problem With gunzip backup

2007-08-01 Thread Ashish Karalkar
Hello All, I am having following PostgreSQL Linux version PostgreSQL 8.2.0 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 20041212 (Red Hat 3.4.3-9.EL4) I am trying to create the backupfile using gunzip utility pg_dump qsweb | gzip /usr/local/backup/backup.gzBut when I run this

[GENERAL] Possible to Attach/Detach Tablespaces?

2007-08-01 Thread Ow Mun Heng
New to PG, just wondering if there's anyway to say.. I want t Full backup of DB-Sample and I can just tar up the directory containing that tablespace, copy it to another PG server and then re-attach it? Thanks ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6:

Re: [GENERAL] Problem With gunzip backup

2007-08-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 09:27 schrieb Ashish Karalkar: pg_dump qsweb | gzip /usr/local/backup/backup.gzBut when I run this command i get error stdin: not in gzip formattried with pg_dump qsweb | gzip /usr/local/backup/backup.tar.gzbut same problem againCan any body please suggest what is

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to Attach/Detach Tablespaces?

2007-08-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 10:07 schrieb Ow Mun Heng: New to PG, just wondering if there's anyway to say.. I want t Full backup of DB-Sample and I can just tar up the directory containing that tablespace, copy it to another PG server and then re-attach it? No. -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to Attach/Detach Tablespaces?

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Huxton
Ow Mun Heng wrote: New to PG, just wondering if there's anyway to say.. I want t Full backup of DB-Sample and I can just tar up the directory containing that tablespace, copy it to another PG server and then re-attach it? No. Apart from anything else OID and transaction numbers would be all

Re: [GENERAL] Problem With gunzip backup

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Huxton
Ashish Karalkar wrote: I am trying to create the backupfile using gunzip utility pg_dump qsweb | gzip /usr/local/backup/backup.gzBut when I run this command i get error stdin: not in gzip formattried with pg_dump qsweb | gzip /usr/local/backup/backup.tar.gzbut same problem againCan any body

Re: {Spam} [GENERAL] FOREIGN KEY migration of syntax, help needed

2007-08-01 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, Mike Haberman a écrit : My old database has the old-style FOREIGN KEY syntax: I've had this very same transition to make on a database here, and successfully used adddepend: http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/adddepends/adddepends/ It has been moved out

Re: [GENERAL] a few questions (and doubts) about xid

2007-08-01 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Friday 27 July 2007 Alvaro Herrera's cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote: Consider an open cursor; you open it and leave it there. Then you delete something from the table. Then you read from the cursor. The deleted row must be in the cursor. Thanks fot these details. Now a few other

Re: [GENERAL] a few questions (and doubts) about xid

2007-08-01 Thread Gregory Stark
Luca Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks fot these details. Now a few other questions come into my mind (I hope not to bother you guys!). In chapter 49 of the documentation (index access) I read that an index stores pointers to any version of the tuple that is present in the

Re: [GENERAL] a few questions (and doubts) about xid

2007-08-01 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Wednesday 1 August 2007 Gregory Stark's cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote: You're right, the index contains pointers to *every* version of the tuple. So in a regular SELECT statement you don't need to look at the update chain at all. The main use of the update chain is when you want to

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Kenneth Downs
Paolo, I started with linux 6 years ago after being a confirmed microsoftie my entire career, this is the experience I can offer: Ubuntu: What Windows wants to be, what the Mac is w/o the and with more control. I just replaced a hard drive in a dell machine. A generic windows CD (the

Re: [GENERAL] Polymorphic functions' weird behavior

2007-08-01 Thread Viatcheslav Kalinin
Tom Lane wrote: You'd have to cast the NULL to some specific array type. regards, tom lane Unfortunately I can't do that (well, in fact it would be pretty inconvenient) because the function is called from other plpgsql function and I cannot be sure if it will be called with NULL or not.

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Hannes Dorbath
On 01.08.2007 13:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora, Ubuntu server, Suse or

[GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread paolo
Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora, Ubuntu server, Suse or others? Thanks in advance, Paolo

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Edward Macnaghten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora, Ubuntu server, Suse or others?

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ?

[GENERAL] How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository?

2007-08-01 Thread John Mitchell
Hi, How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository? Thanks, -- John J. Mitchell

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Madison Kelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora, Ubuntu server, Suse or others?

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora, Ubuntu server, Suse

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
I'm about to install a new Linux server, and I've followed this thread with interest, being a tinkerer rather than any sort of expert. I'm going to try out Debian, which I haven't used before - the server it's replacing is running an old RedHat - and would be interested in people's comments.

Re: [GENERAL] How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository?

2007-08-01 Thread John Mitchell
Hi, I am trying to store schema definitions in version-control which I can do by saving the definition and then importing into svn, but I would like it to be automatic , so that when an update occurs to a table or view within postgres then that table or view is flagged within svn. This would

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread paolo
-Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Reid Thompson Inviato: mercoledì 1 agosto 2007 15.15 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Oggetto: Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora,

Re: [GENERAL] How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository?

2007-08-01 Thread Tino Wildenhain
John Mitchell schrieb: Hi, How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository? Please elaborate: what do you mean with connect? If you want to version control your DDL, people use pgdump to create individual dumps (as sql text files) and just

[GENERAL] Triggers: Detecting if a column value is explicitly set in an UPD ATE statement or not... (IS NULL not working?)

2007-08-01 Thread Weber, Geoffrey M.
I'm having a problem, and can't seem to find a good answer in the mailing list archives... sorry if I'm missing something obvious! Postgres version: 8.2.4 O/S: Solaris 10 I want to set a BOOLEAN column value to FALSE by default for all INSERT and UPDATE statements performed against a particular

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
On Wednesday 1. August 2007 16:15, Madison Kelly wrote: /Personally/, I love Debian on servers. It's not quite as 'hardcore' as Gentoo (a great distro, but not one to start with!). It's the foundation of many of the popular distros (Ubuntu, Mepis, Knoppix, etc) and the Debian crew is very

Re: [GENERAL] How do I connect postgres table structures and view structures to an existing svn repository?

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Huxton
John Mitchell wrote: I am trying to store schema definitions in version-control which I can do by saving the definition and then importing into svn, but I would like it to be automatic , so that when an update occurs to a table or view within postgres then that table or view is flagged

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Owen Hartnett
At 4:52 PM +0200 8/1/07, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: On Wednesday 1. August 2007 16:15, Madison Kelly wrote: /Personally/, I love Debian on servers. It's not quite as 'hardcore' as Gentoo (a great distro, but not one to start with!). It's the foundation of many of the popular distros (Ubuntu,

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread charlie derr
Raymond O'Donnell wrote: I'm about to install a new Linux server, and I've followed this thread with interest, being a tinkerer rather than any sort of expert. I'm going to try out Debian, which I haven't used before - the server it's replacing is running an old RedHat - and would be

Re: {Spam} [GENERAL] FOREIGN KEY migration of syntax, help needed

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Haberman
wow.. Thank you. mike On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Dimitri Fontaine wrote: Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, Mike Haberman a ?crit?: My old database has the old-style FOREIGN KEY syntax: I've had this very same transition to make on a database here, and successfully used

[GENERAL] how do i get num of recs inserted/deleted/updated in plpgsql

2007-08-01 Thread Gauthier, Dave
Looking to capture the total number of records affected with insert/delete/update from within a plpgsql (v7.4 on linux). Would be nice to have this in an integer. Thanks -dave

Re: [GENERAL] how do i get num of recs inserted/deleted/updated in plpgsql

2007-08-01 Thread Gauthier, Dave
Perhaps rowcnt integer; ... get diagnostics rowcnt := row_count; ??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gauthier, Dave Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: [GENERAL] how

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Joseph S
I just moved one of my desktops and my laptop from Fedora 6 to Unbuntu 7.04 because Fedora lacked hardware support that Unbuntu and my Fedora machines had all sorts of problems like sound dropping out and machines locking up. (Also the Fedora installers are terrible). My small gripes about

Re: [GENERAL] how do i get num of recs inserted/deleted/updated in plpgsql

2007-08-01 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
On Wednesday 1. August 2007 18:05, Gauthier, Dave wrote: Looking to capture the total number of records affected with insert/delete/update from within a plpgsql (v7.4 on linux). Would be nice to have this in an integer. http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/23.php 8- How many rows were

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Tomasz Myrta
charlie derr napisal 2007-08-01 17:37: I would include the following as legitimate reasons to want to build from source: 2. You need features from a newer version than is available in Debian. Martin Pitt - Debian's PostgreSQL package maintainer makes a great job. You won't wait too

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Douglas McNaught
Joseph S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My small gripes about Ubuntu are: 1) rpm, for all its faults, is still better than using apt You *must* be joking. In Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a tenth of the dependency hell that you regularly hit with RPMs (though yum has improved things

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On 8/1/07, Douglas McNaught [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My small gripes about Ubuntu are: 1) rpm, for all its faults, is still better than using apt You *must* be joking. In Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a tenth of the dependency hell that you

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Madison Kelly
Joseph S wrote: I just moved one of my desktops and my laptop from Fedora 6 to Unbuntu 7.04 because Fedora lacked hardware support that Unbuntu and my Fedora machines had all sorts of problems like sound dropping out and machines locking up. (Also the Fedora installers are terrible). My

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Douglas McNaught
Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't start this. These issues are exactly why one should be looking at an ENTERPRISE OS for a server. Fedora, ubuntu, etc... are not enterprise OSes, and any discussion of such issues are certainly off-topic for this mailing list. An

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Joseph S wrote: My small gripes about Ubuntu are: 1) rpm, for all its faults, is still better than using apt This is drfiting off-topic for this list, but this statement is so odd I can't let it go unchallenged. You must have some odd criteria for better or run into

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, Reid Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a dedicated production server, look at UBUNTU 6.10 server. If you're planning to connect a monitor and run X-windows ( i.e. I bought a server, but i'm going to use it as a learning platform for LINUX in general also), i'd suggest

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrej, Richard, How quickly people forget about the quiet distribution: Slackware. Ideal for servers, and great on desktops and portables, too, for those who know what they're doing. Slackware is my preferred distro by a long stretch, I've

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 8/1/07, Madison Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph S wrote: I just moved one of my desktops and my laptop from Fedora 6 to Unbuntu 7.04 because Fedora lacked hardware support that Unbuntu and my Fedora machines had all sorts of problems like sound dropping out and machines locking

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread John K Masters
On 06:30 Thu 02 Aug , Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote: On 8/2/07, Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrej, Richard, How quickly people forget about the quiet distribution: Slackware. Ideal for servers, and great on desktops and portables, too, for those who know what they're

[GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Barry C Dowell
Please forgive me if this question is being asked in the wrong area (and please suggest the proper one so I can ask there :-) ), but I'm in search of assistance in moving a database from a Solaris system over to a Windows system. Solaris 5.8, postgreSQL 8.01, to Windows Server 2003, postgreSQL

Re: [GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Barry C Dowell
You asked for details, here's a few: The database that I'm working with on the Solaris side is approximately 1.5GB in size. One file in the directory that I believe is that database, is over 1GB in size on it's own. When I tried using the plain format, I got human readable information which is

Re: [GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Erik Jones
On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Barry C Dowell wrote: Please forgive me if this question is being asked in the wrong area (and please suggest the proper one so I can ask there :-) ), but I'm in search of assistance in moving a database from a

Re: [GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Barry C Dowell wrote: Please forgive me if this question is being asked in the wrong area (and please suggest the proper one so I can ask there :-) ), but I'm in search of assistance in moving a database from a Solaris system over to a Windows system.

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Brent Wood
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ?

Re: [GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Barry C Dowell
Ok, if you can forgive the possible stupid answer and help pull me a long a bit more, in answer to this: Yes, dump/restore is pretty much the standard to move dbs across architectures so we'll need more to work with. One thing to check, did you make sure that your dump was in the same encoding

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Slackware but have eventually gone back to running my servers on Debian stable. Most of the Debian derivatives base on unstable to get the latest version of things but stable is rock solid and will never let you down. The advantage of

[GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Mason Hale
On a 8.1.9 version database that has been recently vacuumed and analyzed, I'm seeing some dramatic performance degradation if a limit clause is included in the query. This seems counter-intuitive to me. Here's the query and explain plan WITH the LIMIT clause: SELECT * FROM topic_feed WHERE

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread John K Masters
On 09:15 Thu 02 Aug , Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote: On 8/2/07, John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Slackware but have eventually gone back to running my servers on Debian stable. Most of the Debian derivatives base on unstable to get the latest version of things but stable is

Re: [GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Jeff Davis
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 15:56 -0500, Mason Hale wrote: On a 8.1.9 version database that has been recently vacuumed and analyzed, I'm seeing some dramatic performance degradation if a limit clause is included in the query. This seems counter-intuitive to me. Here's the query and explain plan

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Reid Thompson
Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote: On 8/2/07, Reid Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a dedicated production server, look at UBUNTU 6.10 server. If you're planning to connect a monitor and run X-windows ( i.e. I bought a server, but i'm going to use it as a learning platform for LINUX in

Re: [GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Tom Lane
Jeff Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 15:56 -0500, Mason Hale wrote: SELECT * FROM topic_feed WHERE topic_id = 106947234 ORDER BY score DESC LIMIT 25 In plan 1, the planner thinks that it will find 25 tuples matching that topic_id quickly during the backwards index

Re: [GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 8/1/07, Mason Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a 8.1.9 version database that has been recently vacuumed and analyzed, I'm seeing some dramatic performance degradation if a limit clause is included in the query. This seems counter-intuitive to me. Here's the query and explain plan WITH the

Re: [GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Scott Marlowe wrote: On 8/1/07, Mason Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a 8.1.9 version database that has been recently vacuumed and analyzed, I'm seeing some dramatic performance degradation if a limit clause is included in the query. This seems counter-intuitive to

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an alternative viewpoint, I've been running the latest postgres on Mac OS X Server 10.4, and it's been great for me. It was my first time using a server, and my first serious use of postgres (although I have had a lot of previous unix

[GENERAL] What do people like to monitor (or in other words, what might be nice in pgsnmpd)?

2007-08-01 Thread Josh Tolley
Work is beginning on pgsnmpd v 2.0, and I figured it would be a good time to ask folks what they typically like to monitor, so we can make sure pgsnmpd instruments it properly. The current version of pgsnmpd supports something called RDBMS-MIB, which is a set of data designed to be applicable to

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 10:37, Owen Hartnett wrote: At 4:52 PM +0200 8/1/07, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: On Wednesday 1. August 2007 16:15, Madison Kelly wrote: /Personally/, I love Debian on servers. It's not quite as 'hardcore' as Gentoo (a great distro,

Re: [GENERAL] why is the LIMIT clause slowing down this SELECT?

2007-08-01 Thread Mason Hale
Let's call those plan 1 and plan 2. In plan 1, the planner thinks that it will find 25 tuples matching that topic_id quickly during the backwards index scan on topic_feed_score_index. Instead, it looks like it has to go through a lot of tuples before it finds the necessary 25. In plan 2,

Re: [GENERAL] Move database from Solaris to Windows

2007-08-01 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/2/07, Barry C Dowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, if you can forgive the possible stupid answer and help pull me a long a bit more, in answer to this: Yes, dump/restore is pretty much the standard to move dbs across architectures so we'll need more to work with. One thing to check, did

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a Dell server and I am going to use it for installing PostgrSQL 8.2.4. I always used Windows so far and I would like now to install a Linux distribution on the new server. Any suggestion on which distribution ? Fedora,

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 21:44, Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote: On 8/2/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an alternative viewpoint, I've been running the latest postgres on Mac OS X Server 10.4, and it's been great for me. It was my first time using a

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/2/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 10:37, Owen Hartnett wrote: At 4:52 PM +0200 8/1/07, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: On Wednesday 1. August 2007 16:15, Madison Kelly wrote: /Personally/, I love Debian on servers.

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 21:58, Merlin Moncure wrote: [snip] 3. binary packaging While I like the debian distros generally, I dislike the debian packaging of PostgreSQL. IMO, it's over engineered. If you plan to How so? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, Merlin Moncure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A server with a GUI sitting on a login screen is wasting zero resources. Some enterprise management tools are in java which require a GUI to use so there is very little downside to installing X, so IMO a lightweight window manager is

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Andrej Ricnik-Bay escribió: On 8/2/07, Merlin Moncure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A server with a GUI sitting on a login screen is wasting zero resources. Some enterprise management tools are in java which require a GUI to use so there is very little downside to installing X, so IMO a

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 22:05, Merlin Moncure wrote: On 8/2/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/07 10:37, Owen Hartnett wrote: At 4:52 PM +0200 8/1/07, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: On Wednesday 1.

Re: [GENERAL] Linux distro

2007-08-01 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 8/2/07, Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 4735 root 18 0 52524 7204 4304 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 httpd 4820 root 15 0 141m 6648 3140 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.64 X I think most of the virtual memory used

[GENERAL] file-system snapshot under freebsd for backup

2007-08-01 Thread ProAce
I already put the data directory on hds san storage, but there is no snapshot license on it. Could I use mksnap_ffs under freebsd to make snapshot for backup ? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend