is that the
planner is estimating it will need 2G to has all the values and in fact it
would need 8G. So for values under 2G it uses a sort and not a hash at all,
for values over 2G it's trying to use a hash and failing.
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Not sure it'll be faster though.
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just as good as the existing code. Just use regular gettext on the two strings
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Well I think we need to be clear enough at least on the what if not the
how. But there's a bit a of a fuzzy line between them I admit.
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creation_date = now() - expression
Both because of the now() instead of 'now'::date and because the latter is a
comparison that can be indexed instead of an expression which could use an
index on creation_date.
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than it
saves in the query -- the reason these limits exist at all..
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timestmp or item_name or some_data_field is sometimes being used and sometimes
not. Perhaps it's switching from an index on one of those columns to an index
on some other column and that's what's throwing it off.
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that might help is that there should be more information
about the problem in the postmaster log. We intentionally don't send
details about the conf file's contents to the client...
Perhaps we should send a HINT to the client saying to consult the postmaster
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Emanuel Calvo Franco postgres@gmail.com writes:
2009/3/10 Gregory Stark st...@enterprisedb.com:
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us writes:
However, a tip that might help is that there should be more information
about the problem in the postmaster log. We intentionally don't send
details about
/start transactions
freely. It also allows you to open multiple connections or run the client-side
code on a separate machine which can have different resources available.
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Summer Time explicitly.
I think the problem is that MUST is missing from the Default
timezone_abbreviations file.
SELECT '2009-01-01 00:56:00 Indian/Mauritius'::timestamp with time zone;
timestamptz
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which block other transactions that's bad.
Alternately if you see a query in pg_stat_transaction which is taking a long
time to run you might check whether you have a bad plan or a bad query running
while holding locks effectively doing the same thing.
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I'm not sure using xmin is such a great idea really. It's handy for ad-hoc
queries but there are all kinds of cases where it might not give you the
results you
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I don't think the current
logic is right I don't think wrapping to 80 columns when your terminal is
wider is one of the current broken cases. It tends to fail in the opposite
direction of randomly not wrapping at all so it's kind of surprising to see
your experience.
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normal suggestion is to increase *vacuum_cost_delay* which tells it
to sleep longer between bits of work. Don't increase it too much or vacuum
will take forever. But if you increase it from 20 to 40 it should use half as
much i/o as bandwidth as now.
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this old gotcha. That type's not going away anytime soon, but could we
rename it to char1 or something like that?
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multiple both by 10 then you'll process close to a megabyte of data and then
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source base which is flexible enough to extend to
use a database backend. I'm under the impression most cron daemons are based
on pretty old and ossified source bases and are burdened by a lot of legacy
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with much more selective searches?
If your full_listing values are quite large then recalculating the tsvector
might be a lot more expensive than doing a full table scan and LIKE match for
cases when nearly the whole table is going to be scanned anyways.
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that in this example if you were to search on just age it wouldn't be
able to use either of these indexes however. In theory it could use the
indexes if you search on just gender but it would be unlikely to for all the
same reasons as previously mentioned for regular indexes.
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perl -MCPAN -e 'install (DBD::Pg)' or whatever pkg
Ah, well that's not a mistake, but you need to check what -dev packages the
CPAN module you're building requires.
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the Hash is not recommended. When should I use the Gin index ?
GIN and GIST are used for fairly specialized purposes. Full text searching,
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What about a WHERE clause like
WHERE P1 P2
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Is it the hierarchical query ability you're looking for or pivot?
The former we are actually getting in 8.4.
AFAIK even in systems with pivot you still have to declare a fixed list of
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executed for every record and retrieved the set of data
to aggregate.
8.4 Will have OLAP Window functions which can implement things like moving
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Daniel Verite dan...@manitou-mail.org writes:
Gregory Stark wrote:
Is it the hierarchical query ability you're looking for or pivot?
The former we are actually getting in 8.4.
AFAIK even in systems with pivot you still have to
declare a fixed list of columns in advance anyways.
Do
be a
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situation will be much improved. However there are still some common usage
patterns where people run into problems.
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to use the ideas you give in my presentation so mark anything you wouldn't be
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really boggles me is why you don't just use unsigned chars everywhere and
remove all of these casts. or would that just move the casts to strcmp and
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Teodor Sigaev teo...@sigaev.ru writes:
I reproduced the bug with a help of Grzegorz's point for 64-bit box. So,
patch
is attached and I'm going to commit it
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!Conf-flagval[(unsigned int) *s] = (unsigned char) val;
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!Conf
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us writes:
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Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand how this fixes the
problem.
s is a char* so type punning it to an unsigned char * before dereferencing
it is really the same as casting it to unsigned char
, though I suppose there's always someone
somewhere holding elections :)
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of wondering what behaviour you two are looking for and what
different DBMS you're referring to.
I'm assuming it's not the ANSI fold-to-uppercase behaviour you're looking for.
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problems themselves and not debating the pros and cons of possible solutions.
I want to encourage people to post their peeves even if they know perfectly
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has to really make it a big success though.
Making modules more, uh, modular, so they can be installed and uninstalled
smoothly and preferably without special access privileges is a recognized
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type called regclass which you can use by doing SELECT conrelid::regclass
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suspect others already suggested this, but you might look at partial
indexes. If your queries are very dynamic against relatively static data you
might look at building denormalized caches of the precalculated data.
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Yeah, actually that doesn't work.
If you want to do that the only way to do it properly is to Bcc the various
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Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
Gregory Stark wrote:
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
Well cross-posting is especially annoying on subscriber-only moderated lists
such as ours. Anyone who follows up to an email who isn't subscribed to all
the lists
it is how much dead space is in the table due
to previous updates and deletes, as well as how fragmented the indexes have
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Another idea, I wonder if the project has gone more international and
therefore has more traffic at odd hours of the day for everyone. It would
also
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-analyze.info/
What would be really neat would be having the mailing list do something
automatically. Either fix the message inline or generate a link to something
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moving on to the next one.
Another idea, I wonder if the project has gone more international and
therefore has more traffic at odd hours of the day for everyone. It would also
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could see this working is if you use a filesystem which logs
data changes like ZFS or ext3 with data=journal. Even then you have to be very
careful to make the filesystem block size that the journal treats as atomic
match the Postgres block size or you'll still be in trouble.
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Invisible under normal operation sure, but when something fails the
consequences will surely be different and I can't see how you
could make a compressed filesystem safe
and have it only bother copying up to that point?
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on a filesystem that felt free to
compress portions of it. Would the filesystem still be able to guarantee that
torn pages won't tear across adjacent blocks? What about torn pages that
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I can't really see trusting Postgres on a filesystem that felt free
to work around, just resize the window again a little bit
once you're at the prompt. Readline notices that and adjusts.
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Could you define messed up?
What I see is that the query output is formatted correctly but readline still
thinks the screen is the old size. (This is in CVS HEAD -- this code was
definitely different in 8.3 and before so the behaviour may
.
One thing that comes to mind though, I would have defined one of those two
indexes to include both columns. Probably the file_id index, so you would have
an index on revision_id and an index on file_id,revision_id. That would
be a huge win for this query.
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comments or de-emphasize them to help the user concentrate on the new
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. Then we can mmap as much as we want.
Before we lose root privileges we can even mlock as much as we want.
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that would be a type mismatch, heh.
prepare select * from foo where a = any($1::int[])
then pass {1,2,3}
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get charged $8.00 not $7.996. If you fail to round at that point you'll find
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has me confused. Can anyone shed some light on the
situation?
How much memory the OS allows Postgres to allocate will depend on a lot of
external factors. At a guess you had some other services or queries running at
the same time the first time which reduced the available memory.
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, which would be by far
the most likely result if we tried to cache all function results.
Sorry Tom, I confused STABLE with IMMUTABLE; my bad.
No, this is equally untrue for immutable.
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the cluster or alter table such as
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Incidentally the visibility bugs are indeed entirely fixed in 8.3. In 8.2 and
before cluster and alter table rewrites can both cause tuples to not appear
for transactions which were started before the cluster or alter
of
gist_redo() in gistxlog.c and when recovery (hopefully) completes immediately
drop any gist indexes?
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a recent_post_id) then you could have a
query on forums which pulls the most recently updated thread directly without
having to join on form_post at all. That would slow down inserts but speed up
views -- possibly a good trade-off for a forum system.
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pk.
Then you'll have to build indexes, swap the tables, and fix any views or rules
which refer to the old table (they'll still refer to the old table, not the
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Any tips why this is so?
They don't appear to contain the same data.
If they do have you run analyze recently?
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anyways.
I'm not sure if there's a fundamental reason why there has to be an index that
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(Rather than trying to browbeat configure into doing this, I'd suggest
manually adjusting CFLAGS in src/Makefile.global, then make clean and
rebuild.)
eh? either of these should
--enable-debug
And yes, you have to do make clean. I often forget that step :(
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allocation anyways though. Few allocators return memory to the OS anyways. It
might just be exaggerated in this case since probably a significant part of
Postgres's footprint here was the per-transaction memory being used by this
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CREATE INDEX token_position_func on (token(position+1))
Ooops, I misread that as if token were a function and not the table. Sam
Mason had the right syntax. Sorry.
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first file you run so that it hasn't updated both tables and exited before the
second one even starts. But I'm just guessing since you haven't sent the
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you could use if you can stand the downtime is to periodically
CLUSTER the table. Older versions of Postgres had a concurrency bugs in
CLUSTER to watch out for, but as long as you don't run it at the same time as
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would be where you have a lot of dead space in
the table (but not in the index), partial indexes which don't cover much of
the table, or a table which is already very well clustered (possibly,
depending on other factors).
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(make sure to read how to use pg_start_backup() properly) against longer
recovery times. TANSTAAFL :(
If you do this then you may as well turn fsync off on the server since you're
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message. My response was only to this one point and not
the longer previous point. I actually think this is a more important point to
get across than simply don't top post which just seems to generate lots of
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connection using named portals. But if you called PQgetResult() on one you
have to ensure all threads wait until it returns before issuing PQgetResult()
(or any other libpq function) on the other portal.
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the later command -- before it was overwritten it was
apparently \i bench-index-after.sql. It seems something with the
PsqlScanState is not being sufficient to make the lexer completely reentrant
here.
What version of flex is this built with?
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What is this in response to?
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pollutant.
To get anything more you would have to post an EXPLAIN output and preferably
an EXPLAIN ANALYZE output if you can find a query which completes.
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about integrity issues if you started having the same error
with something like an xlog WAL file though.
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