I've only been peripherally watching this thread and this may have been
mentioned...
One advantage of using a consistent prefix is that when you have
forgotten the exact name of a rarely used command and you are using a
shell with readline support, pg_tabtab will bring up a list of
available
On 01/04/2008, Steve Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One advantage of using a consistent prefix is that when you have
forgotten the exact name of a rarely used command and you are using a
shell with readline support, pg_tabtab will bring up a list of
available commands.
For any value of
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
a) every day (e.g. in my cron)
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
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1. a - old notation
2. a
3. e d
4. b c
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* F. Jovan Jester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
1. a - old notation
2. a
3. e d
4. b c
*blink*
hmm. How about 1 and 2?
(is this an April fools joke?)
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Chris Browne wrote:
...
pg_ctl is really more like the scripts in /etc/init.d; whatever it
ought to be called instead, I don't think safe_postgresqld is
it...
eek. where is that save_ something coming from? Apache uses
apachectl which seems pretty forward - pg_ctl seems to be in
the same
Tino Wildenhain wrote:
Chris Browne wrote:
...
pg_ctl is really more like the scripts in /etc/init.d; whatever it
ought to be called instead, I don't think safe_postgresqld is
it...
eek. where is that save_ something coming from?
From safe_mysqld , I imagine. I never understood the rationale
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
I would note that system utilities can be renamed at the packagers
behest.
./configure --exec-prefix=pg
Yes this would create pgpg_ctl.
No, this would make configure abort with an error message.
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:41:52PM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
For the record, I think any renaming is a terrible idea, and a solution
in search of a problem. Any change, no matter how long it takes, will
break untold number of scripts, make us look bad, and frustrate
people, similar
Although I, too, am not fond of the current command names, I'm not aware
of a naming conflict that is serious enough to warrant renaming. Do we
have even one example of one significant naming conflict?
Renaming executable seems likely to create much more confusion that it
will solve. I loathe
Greg Sabino Mullane napsal(a):
snip
Nobody want to rename psql. Personaly, I dislike current command
names for long long time. Many times I tried create unix user by
createuser command. And these names could be potential names of
system commands.
Yours is the first time I've heard of anyone
Adam Rich wrote:
Oh, then there should have been some options in the survey along the
lines of things are fine how they are.
Oh, a bit of answer-forcing wasn't beneath him.
Ummm... Isn't that what Option A is about ?
1) What type of names do you prefer?
On 2008-03-28 02:00, Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote:
On 28/03/2008, Dawid Kuroczko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agree, except I would prefer pg instead of pgc.
And it's been taken for about 35 years by a Unix command called page.
From its man-page.
pg - browse pagewise through text files
So
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Tomasz Ostrowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-03-28 02:00, Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote:
On 28/03/2008, Dawid Kuroczko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agree, except I would prefer pg instead of pgc.
And it's been taken for about 35 years by a Unix command
Zdeněk Kotala a écrit :
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser, etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be
kept for 2 or 3 following versions. The main reason for the patch is to
avoid possible clash of names with systems tools.
And
Please let us know your meaning,
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) with c) as a second choice. Keep names simple.
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
a)
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
--
On 27/03/2008, Zdeněk Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
a) Never seen any clashes with other tools in terms of names.
And the old sys-admin creed: don't fix it if it ain't
Zdeněk Kotala pisze:
Hello All,
1) What type of names do you prefer?
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
b
2) How often do you use these tools?
b) one per week
b
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
c) pg_init
c
4) How do you perform VACUUM?
a) vacuumdb - shell
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I note that we can continue to have the current executables stashed in
PREFIX/share/libexec and let the pg executable exec them.
Not share/ surely, since these are executables, but yeah.
This brings me to the idea that pg is a
Shane Ambler wrote:
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all
the time, I will stick my fingers in my ears and start yelling until
they stop. Bad enough I have to type pg_ctl a few times every day now.
+10 on hating _
+20 if need be, I'd go
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all the
time...
alias pgctl=pg_ctl
If I were allowed to change the login profile on every system I touch I
wouldn't be typing pg_ctl at all; I'd be typing up and
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all the
time, I will stick my fingers in my ears and start yelling until they
stop. Bad enough I have to type pg_ctl a few times every day now.
alias pgctl=pg_ctl
Tom Lane wrote:
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all the
time, I will stick my fingers in my ears and start yelling until they
stop. Bad enough I have to type pg_ctl a few times every day now.
1) What type of names do you prefer?
1 b
2) How often do you use these tools?
2 c
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
3 e (pg_createcluster by Debian), then d or b
4) How do you perform VACUUM?
4 c b (autovac sql vacuum)
Regards,
Dawid
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ron Mayer
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Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
There are many precedents. cvs update, git
Alvaro Herrera napsal(a):
Tom Lane wrote:
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all the
time, I will stick my fingers in my ears and start yelling until they
stop. Bad enough I have to type pg_ctl a few
Zdenek Kotala wrote:
And what about two commands one for create and one for drop?
It save 6 or 4 chars.
pgc db (as create db)
pgc user
pgd db (as drop db)
pgd user
Well, there are things besides create and drop -- for example vacuum.
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Alvaro Herrera napsal(a):
Zdenek Kotala wrote:
And what about two commands one for create and one for drop?
It save 6 or 4 chars.
pgc db (as create db)
pgc user
pgd db (as drop db)
pgd user
Well, there are things besides create and drop -- for example vacuum.
Yeah, good point I forgot
On Thursday 27. March 2008, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Zdenek Kotala wrote:
And what about two commands one for create and one for drop?
It save 6 or 4 chars.
pgc db (as create db)
pgc user
pgd db (as drop db)
pgd user
Well, there are things besides create and drop -- for example vacuum.
I
Tom Lane napsal(a):
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I like this too. It'd be considerably more work than the currently
proposed patch, though, since we'd have to meld the currently
separate programs into one executable.
I note that we can continue to have the
Naz Gassiep napsal(a):
We're not seriously thinking of changing these are we? Once a command
set has been in use for as long a time as the PG command set has, any
benefit that may be derived by new users with an aversion to
documentation reading is vastly offset by the confusion that would
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To: Naz Gassiep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Naz Gassiep napsal
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Yes, I understand your point of view, but on other side there
are arguments in discussion, that for newbies old name are
terrible to use and frankly, who reads manual before he start
to use a product?
This is a terrible argument.
Nobody
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
I figure something like the more or less standard options for modern
*nixes, with short and long options like eg.
pgc -C, --createdb ...
The idea thrown out was to use something like the CVS/svn model where a
single command gets called followed
Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Naz Gassiep napsal(a):
So I ask again, we're not seriously thinking about this are we?
Yes, we are.
Make that Zdenek is. The reason for this survey is that he's hoping
to gather enough ammunition to overrule the opposition.
In any case, there *will*
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
I figure something like the more or less standard options for modern
*nixes, with short and long options like eg.
pgc -C, --createdb ...
The idea thrown out was to use
Dawid wrote:
[...]
abbreviations in cases where there's some overlap in characters:
pgc cluster
[...]
Agree, except I would prefer pg instead of pgc.
No can do, already taken:
man pg
Reformatting pg(1), please wait...
PG(1) User
Dawid Kuroczko escribió:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pgc cluster
Agree, except I would prefer pg instead of pgc.
pg is already taken by an ancient Unix pager utility (predecessor of
more, less, etc)
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Gregory Williamson wrote:
No can do, already taken:
man pg
Reformatting pg(1), please wait...
PG(1) User
Commands PG(1)
NAME
pg - browse pagewise through text files
Good catch. Haven't used
Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mar 27, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Make that Zdenek is. The reason for this survey is that he's hoping
to gather enough ammunition to overrule the opposition.
Oh, then there should have been some options in the survey along the
lines of things are
On Mar 27, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Naz Gassiep napsal(a):
So I ask again, we're not seriously thinking about this are we?
Yes, we are.
Make that Zdenek is. The reason for this survey is that he's hoping
to gather enough ammunition to
On 28/03/2008, Dawid Kuroczko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agree, except I would prefer pg instead of pgc.
With pg I am sure that the comand is generic to the extreme, so I don't
have to assume what does c stand for. Control? Create? Client? or
Command.
Also its about 33% shorter. ;-)
Oh, then there should have been some options in the survey along the
lines of things are fine how they are.
Oh, a bit of answer-forcing wasn't beneath him.
Ummm... Isn't that what Option A is about ?
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation
On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
a) every day (e.g. in my cron)
b) one per week
c) one
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb, createuser,
etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be kept for 2 or 3
following versions. The main reason for the patch is to avoid possible clash of
names with systems tools.
And after long
Please let us know your meaning,
thanks Zdenek Kotala
1. c
2. a
3. other = pginitdb, to be consistent with pgcreatedb,etc
4. a
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---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser ...
d) remove them - psql is the solution
e)
Zdeněk Kotala escribió:
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser, etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be
kept for 2 or 3 following versions. The main reason for the patch is
to avoid possible clash of names with systems
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:25:04 +0100
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Please let us know your meaning,
I hope it is the right place where to post.
1) What type of names do you prefer?
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser ...
I'd like the idea of having one command +
1. b
2. b
3. b
4. c
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4) How do you perform VACUUM?
1.) b
2.) a
3.) b
4.) a+c
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:25:04 +0100 Zden__k Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] thought
long, then sat down and wrote:
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser,
etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be kept
1. b
2. c
3. d
4. b and c
I do most of my admin using SQL these days. my preference would be
towards keeping them because they're nice in the beginning.
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1) What type of names do you prefer?
d) remove them - psql is the solution
2) How often do you use these tools?
d) never
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
a) initdb
4) How do you perform VACUUM?
b) VACUUM - SQL command
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From: Joey K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Survey: renaming/removing script binaries (createdb,
createuser...)
To: Zdeněk Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let us know your meaning,
thanks
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser ...
d) remove them - psql is the solution
e) remove them - pgadmin is
At 10:25a -0400 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
And after long discussion on patches and hackers list we have made a
decision than we need input from wide audience. This is a reason why
I prepare following surveys.
1. b
2. b
3. b (but whichever, just be consistent)
4. b c
I don't
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Zdeněk Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser
On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser, etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will
be kept for 2 or 3 following versions. The main reason for the patch
is to avoid possible
At 11:04a -0400 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
- maybe a pg[something] action may be better integrated with
bash auto-completion without rewriting a sql parser
$ cat ~/.hypothetical_bashrc
...
complete -o default -F postgres_completion_function pg_cmd
...
$ pg_cmdtabtab
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Zdenk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
b) one per week
3) What name of initdb do you
Steve Atkins wrote:
There are no existing clashes with system tools that I'm aware of. Are
there any? Most of the clashes are with other installations of
postgresql installed on the same machine, so if name clashes is the real
reason for the change, then the version number or port number
Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
There are many precedents. cvs update, git pull
apt-get install.
Anyone else like this approach?
Of the choices, though,
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Steve Atkins wrote:
There are no existing clashes with system tools that I'm aware of.
Are
there any? Most of the clashes are with other installations of
postgresql installed on the same machine, so if name clashes is the
real
reason
On 26/03/2008, Zdeněk Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser,
etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be kept for 2 or 3
following versions. The main reason for the patch is to avoid
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:09:48 -0700
Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, it is. But if the goal is to make it more approachable for
people who
are familiar with mysql, but not prepared to read postgresql
documentation
it's also the obvious change to make.
I would note that system
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
There are many precedents. cvs update, git pull
apt-get install.
Anyone else like this approach?
I'll second that. It would be much
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Zdeněk Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
OTOH,
d) remove them - psql is the solution
2) How often do you use these tools?
1. b
2. a
3. b (must be consistent with 1st question prefix)
4. c, b
Bruno Lavoie
Zdeněk Kotala a écrit :
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser, etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be
kept for 2 or 3 following versions.
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Steve Atkins wrote:
There are no existing clashes with system tools that I'm aware of. Are
there any? Most of the clashes are with other installations of
postgresql installed on the same machine, so if name clashes is the real
reason for the change, then the version
Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Steve Atkins wrote:
pg_ctl to safe_postgresqld,
Now that's plain weird.
Yes, it is. But if the goal is to make it more approachable for people
who are familiar with mysql, but not prepared to read
On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Steve Atkins wrote:
pg_ctl to safe_postgresqld,
Now that's plain weird.
Yes, it is. But if the goal is to make it more approachable for
people
who
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. It would be much easier on the brain, as you might
issue a pg --help
On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
There are many precedents. cvs update, git pull
apt-get install.
Anyone else
- Original Message -
From: Zden?k Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:25 am
Subject: [GENERAL] Survey: renaming/removing script binaries
(createdb, createuser...)
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like
createdb, createuser
Tom Lane wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I like this too. It'd be considerably more work than the currently
Tom Lane wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. It would be much easier on the brain, as you
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 16:25, Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
b) one per week
3) What name
Le Wednesday 26 March 2008 15:25:04 Zdeněk Kotala, vous avez écrit :
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser
Tom Lane wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
...a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. ...
I like this too.
Though I guess we might need to find
Ron Mayer napsal(a):
Tom Lane wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
...a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. ...
I like this too.
Though I guess
Tom Lane napsal(a):
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. It would be much easier on the brain, as you might
Ron Mayer napsal(a):
Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
1) What type of names do you prefer?
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
There are many precedents. cvs update, git pull
apt-get install.
Anyone else like this approach?
Alvaro Herrera napsal(a):
Tom Lane wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wednesday 26. March 2008, Ron Mayer wrote:
I'd prefer a pg program that took as arguments
the command. So you'd have pg createdb instead
of pg_createdb.
I'll second that. It would be much easier on the
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
2) How often do you use these tools?
---
b) one per week
3) What name of initdb do you prefer?
-- --
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I like this too. It'd be considerably more work than the currently
proposed patch, though, since we'd have to meld the currently
separate programs into one executable.
I note that we can continue to have the current executables
Zdenek Kotala wrote:
One of my original idea was to create pg_cmd command which will integrate
all create/drop command in one. For example
pg_cmd create database
pg_cmd list user
and so on.
I do like this idea, though I don't like the pg_cmd name, because it
conflicts with pg_ctl on 4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Atkins) writes:
There are no existing clashes with system tools that I'm aware of. Are
there any? Most of the clashes are with other installations of
postgresql installed on the same machine, so if name clashes is the
real reason for the change, then the version number
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:25:04PM +0100, Zdeněk Kotala wrote:
Hello All,
I prepared patch for renaming postgreSQL script tools like createdb,
createuser, etc. to pg_createdb, pg_creteuser. Original names will be kept
for 2 or 3 following versions. The main reason for the patch is to avoid
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Steve Atkins wrote:
These were mostly rhetorical suggestions. Not serious in themselves,
but hoping to make people come clean about why name changes of
binaries might be needed.
So far I haven't seen anyone besides Zdenek gives a reason why this is
worth the trouble, and
1) What type of names do you prefer?
---
a) old notation - createdb, createuser ...
b) new one with pg_ prefix - pg_createdb, pg_creteuser ...
c) new one with pg prefix - pgcreatedb, pgcreateuser ...
d) remove them - psql is the solution
e) remove them - pgadmin is
Greg Smith wrote:
And if anybody suggests putting a _ in something I have to type all
the time, I will stick my fingers in my ears and start yelling until
they stop. Bad enough I have to type pg_ctl a few times every day now.
+10 on hating _
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Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz
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