Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-03 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On 06/01/2010 03:34 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Ivan Sergio Borgonovo m...@webthatworks.it writes: On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:47:25 -0600 Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: Pgsql is pretty easy to build from source. Yeah it is. But what is it going to be an upgrade process? On a production

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 07.51:50 Bret S. Lambert wrote: Getting the wrong answer fast is not an improvement over the right answer slow. Doesn't match reality. Listened to any politicians lately? (sorry, couldn't resist.) -- vbi -- In seiner mit Hochspannung erwarteten Rede zur Lage der

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-02 Thread Vick Khera
2010/5/31 Devrim Gündüz dev...@gunduz.org: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:14 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: if you install some libraries like python clients or some software depending on PgSql from the repositories in RPM/DPKG based OS, you will have a tough time with the dependency stuff.

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 31 May 2010 10.29:22 Michal Szymanski wrote: for Debian sometimes we had to wait many weeks for official packages. FWIW: I've just noticed that Debian experimental carries pg 9.0beta1, it was uploaded 3.5., so thats not bad, taking into account that it was released only a few days

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Browne
Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl writes: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian sometimes we

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-02 Thread Mathieu De Zutter
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: On Monday 31 May 2010 10.29:22 Michal Szymanski wrote: for Debian sometimes we had to wait many weeks for official packages. Experiemntal packages can be installed directly into Debian unstable (sid) installations

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
2010/5/31 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com: I run my site (see my signature) on a self managed VPS. I was using the default PGSQL RPM from the fedora repository, the site was getting way slow. So I compiled all the stuff apache, php and postgresql with custom gcc flags, which improved

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Steve Crawford
On 05/31/2010 01:29 AM, Michal Szymanski wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian sometimes we

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Steve Crawford scrawf...@pinpointresearch.com: On 05/31/2010 01:29 AM, Michal Szymanski wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 1 Jun 2010, at 22:03, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Steve Crawford scrawf...@pinpointresearch.com: On 05/31/2010 01:29 AM, Michal Szymanski wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Greg Smith
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: I run my site (see my signature) on a self managed VPS. I was using the default PGSQL RPM from the fedora repository, the site was getting way slow. So I compiled all the stuff apache, php and postgresql with custom gcc flags, which improved performance like hell

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-06-01 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:32:44AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: I run my site (see my signature) on a self managed VPS. I was using the default PGSQL RPM from the fedora repository, the site was getting way slow. So I compiled all the stuff apache, php and postgresql

[GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Michal Szymanski
Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian sometimes we had to wait many weeks for official packages.

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as  

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as  

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Andreas Kretschmer
Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon With which distribution you are

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Szymon Guz
2010/5/31 Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian sometimes

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:47:25 -0600 Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Szymon Guz
2010/5/31 Ivan Sergio Borgonovo m...@webthatworks.it On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:47:25 -0600 Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Lane
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo m...@webthatworks.it writes: On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:47:25 -0600 Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: Pgsql is pretty easy to build from source. Yeah it is. But what is it going to be an upgrade process? On a production box? If it makes you feel better, build

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
You should use whatever you are comfortable with. I would go with ArchLinux for its ease of use and making packages. RPM and DPKG are much harder to build than ArchLinux's .pkg.tar.xz Also, if you install some libraries like python clients or some software depending on PgSql from the repositories

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le lundi 31 mai 2010 10:23:51, Szymon Guz a écrit : 2010/5/31 Ivan Sergio Borgonovo m...@webthatworks.it On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:47:25 -0600 Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi,

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Michal Szymanski dy...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Devrim Gündüz
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:14 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: if you install some libraries like python clients or some software depending on PgSql from the repositories in RPM/DPKG based OS, you will have a tough time with the dependency stuff. Really? -- Devrim Gündüz dev...@gunduz.org

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Devrim Gündüz
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 08:47 -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote: Pgsql is pretty easy to build from source. Right, but some sysadmins don't want to see development libraries on the machines. -- Devrim Gündüz dev...@gunduz.org -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Devrim Gündüz
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 01:29 -0700, Michal Szymanski wrote: Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Monday 31 May 2010, Devrim Gündüz dev...@gunduz.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:14 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: if you install some libraries like python clients or some software depending on PgSql from the repositories in RPM/DPKG based OS, you will have a tough time with the

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Alan Hodgson ahodg...@simkin.ca wrote: On Monday 31 May 2010, Devrim Gündüz dev...@gunduz.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:14 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: if you install some libraries like python clients or some software depending on PgSql from the

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
Hi, I run debian/testing since years and it is the best in my opinion. Besides the fact that new versions come in quite fast (after the wait phase from unstable to testing) the upgrade for major versions (eg 8.3 to 8.4) is very simple as it does not override the old files but does a parallel

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Clemens Schwaighofer clemens_schwaigho...@e-gra.co.jp wrote: Hi, I run debian/testing since years and it is the best in my opinion. Besides the fact that new versions come in quite fast (after the wait phase from unstable to testing) the upgrade for major

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Schwaighofer Clemens
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:30, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: Nope; you're wrong. Even RPM doesn't remove the data. But its always safer to keep a backup. I am not talking about removing the data I am talking of not beeing able to access it because the database itself is still in

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Greg Smith
Michal Szymanski wrote: Currently we use Debian, but it chosen by our OS admnistrator. Now we can change our OS and it is question what Linux edition will be the best. We would like have access to new versions of Postgres as soon as possible, for Debian sometimes we had to wait many weeks for

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 03.08:06 Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: Besides the fact that new versions come in quite fast (after the wait phase from unstable to testing) ... and you can always mix testing and unstable. If your testing installation is not too old, usually not much fiddling with

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Heyho! On Tuesday 01 June 2010 06.01:02 Greg Smith wrote: Put a little time into learning how to build your own packages instead, to work around this one perceived flaw, and you'll be way ahead of the mess that comes with switching distributions altogether. Note that we can always use

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Hi, On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 06:59 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Self compilation has the advantage of custom gcc flags like -O3 -march -msse, etc. which can improve performance. I started to think that you have zero idea about building binary packages. Building RPMs is not a task that

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 07:20 +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Packaging stuff for Debian is not magic, it's just Makefiles, Perl/shell scripts and stuff like this. Given that *even I* ( :P ) could build a few 8.2 .deb packages for my previous employer, I also want to confirm that building .debs

Re: [GENERAL] What Linux edition we should chose?

2010-05-31 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
2010/6/1 Devrim GÜNDÜZ dev...@gunduz.org: Hi, On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 06:59 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Self compilation has the advantage of custom gcc flags like -O3 -march -msse, etc. which can improve performance. I started to think that you have zero idea about building binary