Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-30 Thread Jasen Betts
On 2010-11-24, Daniel Verite dan...@manitou-mail.org wrote: Fredric Fredricson wrote: But if you change the column names in the second SELECT in the UNION this is ignored: # SELECT c1,c2 FROM (SELECT 1 AS c1, 2 AS c2 UNION SELECT 2 AS c3, 1 AS c4) AS x; c1 | c2 + 1 | 2

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Alexander Farber, 24.11.2010 08:49: Why do you want to do anything like that? Easier to read... login, logout I understand the easier to read part. But what do you mean with login, logout? Thomas -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Dmitriy Igrishin
Please note, that in cases when you can't do simple dump - fix - restore (e.g. in production) you can always create view(s) with ordinal positions of columns convenient for you. 2010/11/24 Dmitriy Igrishin dmit...@gmail.com Hey Alexander, Ordinal positions of columns can't be set manually by

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be in some other. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz, 24.11.2010 10:37: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be in some other. I always try to convince people

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Bex
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:37:02AM +, Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be in some other.

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Dmitriy Igrishin
It is easy to create view based on SELECT which explicitly specifies the columns names. IMO it is better to hide tables structures behind views and work with them, since views are not materialized and it is easy to drop and recreate or just add another view into the database. With this approach

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Robert Gravsjö
On 2010-11-24 10.43, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz, 24.11.2010 10:37: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be in some other. This can't be true because several SQL

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2010/11/24 Florian Weimer fwei...@bfk.de: * Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns could be in some other.

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: 2010/11/24 Florian Weimer fwei...@bfk.de: * Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the return columns

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Fredric Fredricson
On 11/24/2010 12:31 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: 2010/11/24 Florian Weimerfwei...@bfk.de: * Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Daniel Verite
Fredric Fredricson wrote: But if you change the column names in the second SELECT in the UNION this is ignored: # SELECT c1,c2 FROM (SELECT 1 AS c1, 2 AS c2 UNION SELECT 2 AS c3, 1 AS c4) AS x; c1 | c2 + 1 | 2 2 | 1 Apparently, in a UNION the column names are

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Derrick Rice
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Thomas Kellerer spam_ea...@gmx.net wrote: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz, 24.11.2010 10:37: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 11/24/2010 03:32 AM, Peter Bex wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:37:02AM +, Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: just never use SELECT *, but always call columns by names. You'll avoid having to depend on the order of columns, which is never guaranteed, even if the table on disk is one order, the

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Tom Lane
Stuart McGraw smcg2...@frii.com writes: This is the first time I've ever looked at the 1000+ page spec and I haven't tried to chase down all the definitions so I don't pretend to be authoritative but it sure sounds to me (as your observation above implies) that SQL *does* have an explicit

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-24 Thread Scott Ribe
On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Derrick Rice wrote: Even if an example doesn't exist, you can at least imagine a scenario where an improvement to postgresql is made such that the column order is decided internally, rather than by table definition. Not when SQL compatibility requires that the

[GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello, is there a syntax to add a column not at the last place, but somewhere inbetween or do I have to dump/restore the table? For example if I'd like to add last_logout right after last_login: \d pref_users; Table public.pref_users Column |Type |

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-23 Thread Szymon Guz
On 24 November 2010 08:42, Alexander Farber alexander.far...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, is there a syntax to add a column not at the last place, but somewhere inbetween or do I have to dump/restore the table? For example if I'd like to add last_logout right after last_login: \d pref_users;

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-23 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Alexander Farber, 24.11.2010 08:42: is there a syntax to add a column not at the last place No, because the order of the column is irrelevant (just as there is no order on the rows in a table) Simply select them in the order you like to have. Thomas -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-23 Thread Dmitriy Igrishin
Hey Alexander, Ordinal positions of columns can't be set manually by ALTER TABLE. 2010/11/24 Alexander Farber alexander.far...@gmail.com Hello, is there a syntax to add a column not at the last place, but somewhere inbetween or do I have to dump/restore the table? For example if I'd like

Re: [GENERAL] alter table add column - specify where the column will go?

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander Farber
Easier to read... login, logout On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Szymon Guz mabew...@gmail.com wrote: no Why do you want to do anything like that? -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: