[GENERAL] Too many postgres instances

2009-06-18 Thread Sam Wun
Hi,

Can anyone explain to me why my system is spawn so many postgress instances?
System: FreeBSD 7.2 Stable I386
RAM:  1GB

Here is the output of the top command:
Mem: 457M Active, 92M Inact, 150M Wired, 23M Cache, 85M Buf, 18M Free
Swap: 999M Total, 150M Used, 849M Free, 14% Inuse

Here is a list of the postgres instances running in my system:
pgsql   70502  0.0  0.5 10364  3800  ??  Ss2:24AM   0:28.85
postgres: stats collector process(postgres)
pgsql   70797  0.0  0.4 49724  2892  ??  Is2:28AM   0:00.24
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(54110)  (postgres)
pgsql   70798  0.0  0.7 49724  5060  ??  Is2:28AM   0:00.43
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(52754)  (postgres)
pgsql   70799  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(49593)  (postgres)
pgsql   70800  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(55760)  (postgres)
pgsql   70801  0.0  0.6 49724  5016  ??  Is2:28AM   0:00.56
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(56710)  (postgres)
pgsql   70802  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(65367)  (postgres)
pgsql   70803  0.0  0.6 49724  4508  ??  Is2:28AM   0:00.27
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(55101)  (postgres)
pgsql   70804  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(62522)  (postgres)
pgsql   70805  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(57897)  (postgres)
pgsql   70806  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(51393)  (postgres)
pgsql   70894  0.0  0.8 49724  5908  ??  Is2:30AM   0:00.67
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(65399)  (postgres)
pgsql   70895  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(54991)  (postgres)
pgsql   70896  0.0  0.7 49724  5412  ??  Is2:30AM   0:00.65
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(63123)  (postgres)
pgsql   70897  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(63978)  (postgres)
pgsql   70898  0.0  0.8 49724  6284  ??  Is2:30AM   0:00.59
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(65359)  (postgres)
pgsql   70902  0.0  0.6 49724  4264  ??  Is2:30AM   0:00.25
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(50233)  (postgres)
pgsql   70903  0.0  0.6 49724  4924  ??  Is2:30AM   0:00.41
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(65401)  (postgres)
pgsql   70904  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(63124)  (postgres)
pgsql   70905  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(54153)  (postgres)
pgsql   70906  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(63712)  (postgres)
pgsql   80297  0.0  0.7 49724  5044  ??  Is6:22AM   0:00.28
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(58431)  (postgres)
pgsql   80298  0.0  0.7 48700  5288  ??  Is6:22AM   0:00.48
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(50051)  (postgres)
pgsql   80299  0.0  1.0 49724  7600  ??  Is6:22AM   0:00.30
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(49678)  (postgres)
pgsql   80300  0.0  0.7 48700  5380  ??  Is6:22AM   0:00.67
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(58183)  (postgres)
pgsql   80301  0.0  0.6 49724  4748  ??  Is6:22AM   0:00.37
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(55792)  (postgres)
pgsql   93527  0.0  0.4 49724  3464  ??  Is   11:28AM   0:00.14
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(54222)  (postgres)
pgsql   93528  0.0  0.0 48700 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(52385)  (postgres)
pgsql   93529  0.0  0.0 48700 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(59677)  (postgres)
pgsql   93530  0.0  0.0 48700 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(60016)  (postgres)
pgsql   93531  0.0  0.0 49724 0  ??  IWs  - 0:00.00
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(56885)  (postgres)
pgsql   95330  0.0  0.9 49724  6812  ??  Is   12:05PM   0:00.18
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(55050)  (postgres)
pgsql   95331  0.0  0.7 48700  5680  ??  Is   12:05PM   0:00.07
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(53490)  (postgres)
pgsql   95332  0.0  0.8 49724  6572  ??  Is   12:05PM   0:00.47
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(50029)  (postgres)
pgsql   95333  0.0  0.5 48700  3544  ??  Is   12:05PM   0:00.04
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(65012)  (postgres)
pgsql   95334  0.0  0.8 48700  6236  ??  Is   12:05PM   0:00.06
postgres: liferay lportal 127.0.0.1(57130)  (postgres)

It seems I don't have enough memory to run my Liferay web portal,
there are 3 web portal instances are running, but some of  the primary
keys are failed to index properly:
..
16:40:18,175 WARN  [ResourceActionsUtil:564] Unable to obtain resource
actions for unknown portlet SampleContactUs
17:45:17,326 WARN  [PortalImpl:2948] Current URL
/c/portal/login?p_l_id=10404 

Re: [GENERAL] Too many postgres instances

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Moran
Sam Wun swun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can anyone explain to me why my system is spawn so many postgress instances?

Postgres starts a dedicated process for each connection.  If you have too
many processes, then either you're allowing too many connections, or you
failed to size your server properly for the load you're experiencing.

 System: FreeBSD 7.2 Stable I386
 RAM:  1GB

1G of RAM is not very much for a modern DB server.

 Here is the output of the top command:
 Mem: 457M Active, 92M Inact, 150M Wired, 23M Cache, 85M Buf, 18M Free
 Swap: 999M Total, 150M Used, 849M Free, 14% Inuse

I see you only have 1G of swap, you should allocate more than that, 2x
RAM is generally recommended.

However, to address your RAM question directly, it's difficult to know
where your problem is with the information you've provided.  Let me take
a guess, however.

I'm guessing your shared buffers and other memory settings in Postgres
are actually very low, and you're blaming Postgres for the memory problem
simply because you see a lot of processes in top/ps.  You can verify this
by looking at these settings in your postgresql.conf:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/runtime-config-resource.html

My guess, further is that it's actually Liferay that's using all the memory,
it _is_ a Java app, and for all the good things about Java, it's not known
for fitting in a small memory footprint.  The top output will be a little
more informative if you use:
top -o res
from the command line, which will sort the list by memory usage instead of
CPU usage.  Remember that whatever value you see for the postgres
processes, you can subtract your shared_buffers setting from that, since
all the postgres processes are sharing that RAM.

 Here is a list of the postgres instances running in my system:

[snip]

Looks like you have about 30, which isn't very many.  As a result, I'd
guess that you failed to properly plan your hardware for the load, or the
load is higher than you expected.  I'm not familiar with liferay, so
I don't know if this is typical, but you might want to investigate your
liferay configuration to see if you can convince it to use less
connections.

 ..
 16:40:18,175 WARN  [ResourceActionsUtil:564] Unable to obtain resource
 actions for unknown portlet SampleContactUs
 17:45:17,326 WARN  [PortalImpl:2948] Current URL
 /c/portal/login?p_l_id=10404 generates exception: No Layout exists
 with the primary key 10404
 20:22:57,623 WARN  [PortalImpl:2948] Current URL
 /c/portal/login?p_l_id=11432 generates exception: No Layout exists
 with the primary key 11432
 (END)

I'm not sure that this problem is related to the other problems.  It looks
like your database has become corrupt or your configuration for liferay
is corrupt.  You'll probably get better assistance if you take this
particular question to the Liferay community for help.

Hope this points you in the right direction.  Feel free to ask again if
you hit other snags.

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[GENERAL] connecting to a remote pq always require a password

2009-06-18 Thread David Shen
Hi,

I am trying to use the libpq to connect to my postgresql 8.3 server.
If I use dbname = mydb, the connection made successfully because I
am using a socket connection. But if I use host = 127.0.0.1 dbname =
mydb, the error message is no password supplied.

In the pg_hba.conf file, I even change the host access control to this:
hostall all 127.0.0.1/32  trust

but it still does not work. What I missed?


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Re: [GENERAL] connecting to a remote pq always require a password

2009-06-18 Thread John DeSoi


On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, David Shen wrote:

In the pg_hba.conf file, I even change the host access control to  
this:

hostall all 127.0.0.1/32  trust

but it still does not work. What I missed?


Did you reload the configuration (or restart the sever) after making  
this change?


pg_ctl reload -D /path/to/your/data




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[GENERAL] postgres -- monitor and suggestions

2009-06-18 Thread Sim Zacks
Is there a tool that can monitor my postgresql and recommend
configuration changes based on actual use?

For example, when I run VACUUM ANALYZE it tells me that I should
consider increasing the max_fsm_relations.

After monitoring for a period of time, I would like to know if my shared
buffers are set optimally (for example). Or if I need more RAM in the
machine to run better etc..

Thank you
Sim

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Re: [GENERAL] postgres -- monitor and suggestions

2009-06-18 Thread Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2009/6/18 Sim Zacks s...@compulab.co.il:
 Is there a tool that can monitor my postgresql and recommend
 configuration changes based on actual use?

 For example, when I run VACUUM ANALYZE it tells me that I should
 consider increasing the max_fsm_relations.

 After monitoring for a period of time, I would like to know if my shared
 buffers are set optimally (for example). Or if I need more RAM in the
 machine to run better etc..
No.
There's pgtune, but that's for initial configuration. EVerytnig else
you have to findout yourself from logs.


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Re: [GENERAL] connecting to a remote pq always require a password

2009-06-18 Thread Lennin Caro



--- On Thu, 6/18/09, David Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: David Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com
 Subject: [GENERAL] connecting to a remote pq always require a password
 To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:11 PM
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to use the libpq to connect to my postgresql
 8.3 server.
 If I use dbname = mydb, the connection made successfully
 because I
 am using a socket connection. But if I use host =
 127.0.0.1 dbname =
 mydb, the error message is no password supplied.
 
 In the pg_hba.conf file, I even change the host access
 control to this:
 host    all     
    all     
    127.0.0.1/32       
   trust
 
 but it still does not work. What I missed?
 
 
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waht is the ip number of the host machien and the remote machine to try connect

you can pass a password to the string conection

host=127.0.0.1 dbname=mydb user=myuser password=mypassword

maybe the problem is the net direction 127.0.0.x check this 






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[GENERAL] SET TIMEZONE doesn't affect to SELECT statement

2009-06-18 Thread POST
Title: SET TIMEZONE doesn't affect to SELECT statement




Hello; by tutorial I have tried the example:

set timezone to 'Europe/London';
select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;

Result: 2008-01-01 15:00:00


set timezone to 'Europe/Moscow';
select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;

Result: 2008-01-01 15:00:00


Why is the result identical ? Is something wrong ?

Thanks for suggestion.





Re: [GENERAL] SET TIMEZONE doesn't affect to SELECT statement

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Christensen
Strange, maybe there's some server setting because I get different results
on mine..

set timezone to 'Europe/London';
select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;
Result: '2008-01-01 14:00:00+00'


set timezone to 'Europe/Moscow';
select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;
Result: '2008-01-01 17:00:00+03'

2009/6/18 POST p...@centrum.sk

  Hello; by tutorial I have tried the example:


 set timezone to 'Europe/London';

 select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;


 Result: 2008-01-01 15:00:00



 set timezone to 'Europe/Moscow';

 select '2008-01-01 12:00:00 GMT+2'::timestamptz;


 Result: 2008-01-01 15:00:00



 Why is the result identical ? Is something wrong ?


 Thanks for suggestion.



[GENERAL] Question re 2 aggregates from 1 query

2009-06-18 Thread Scott Ribe
Assume a simple many-to-one between 2 tables:

 create table docs (id int8 primary key, timestamp imported_when);
 create table pages (id int8 primary key, doc_id int8 not null references
docs);

It's easy to get a count of docs imported by date:

 select imported_when::date, count(1)
 from docs 
 group by imported_when::date;

It's easy to get a count of pages imported by date:

 select imported_when::date, count(1)
 from docs, pages 
 where docs.id = pages.doc_id
 group by imported_when::date;

Is there any way to get count of docs  pages imported by date without
resorting to selecting from a select:

 select dt, count(1), numpgs from (
   select docs.imported_when::date as dt, count(1) as numpgs
   from docs, pages
   where docs.id = pages.doc_id
   group by docs.imported_when::date, docs.id
) as t1 group by dt order by dt;

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Re: [GENERAL] Question re 2 aggregates from 1 query

2009-06-18 Thread Scott Ribe
Yes, obviously that should have been sum(numpgs) in the select list of the
last query... Question remains the same...

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Re: [GENERAL] FYI: Load times for a largish DB in 8.2 vs. 8.3 vs. 8.4

2009-06-18 Thread Vick Khera
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Todd A.
Cooktc...@blackducksoftware.com wrote:
 The loads were all done on the same machine, with the DB going on a pair
 of SATA drives in a RAID-0 stripe.  The machine has 2 non-HT Xeons and
 8GB RAM.  maintenance_work_mem was set to 512MB in all three cases.

What if you double or triple the number of checkpoint segments?

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Re: [GENERAL] Question re 2 aggregates from 1 query

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Spotts
 
 Is there any way to get count of docs  pages imported by date without
 resorting to selecting from a select:

[Spotts, Christopher] 
If I understand you correctly..?

create table docs (id int8 primary key, imported_when timestamp );  
create table pages (id int8 primary key, doc_id int8 not null references
docs);
INSERT INTO docs values (1,now()),(2,now()),(3,now()),(4,now()- interval '1
day');
INSERT INTO pages values (1,1),(2,1),(3,2),(4,2),(5,3),(6,4),(7,4),(8,4);

select imported_when::date, count(distinct pages.id),count(distinct docs.id)
 from docs, pages
 where docs.id = pages.doc_id
 group by imported_when::date;


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Re: [GENERAL] FYI: Load times for a largish DB in 8.2 vs. 8.3 vs. 8.4

2009-06-18 Thread Alan McKay
There was an interesting presentation at PG Con from a guy at Sun who
did a series of load tests on 8.3 vs 8.4

http://www.pgcon.org/2009/schedule/events/124.en.html

There is a link to the video from that page so you can watch it.  But
he found a strange corner case where 8.4 performed way worse.  After
he did a bit of digging he found a  couple of default settings that
had changed in 8.4, and when he set them back to their old 8.3 values
and re-ran the tests, there was a huge difference in outcome.



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Todd A.
Cooktc...@blackducksoftware.com wrote:
 Hi,

 First, the numbers:

  PG Version    Load time     pg_database_size     autovac
 --
  8.2.13        179 min       92,807,992,820        on
  8.3.7         180 min       84,048,744,044        on (defaults)
  8.4b2         206 min       84,028,995,344        on (defaults)
  8.4b2         183 min       84,028,839,696        off

 The bulk of the data is in 16 tables, each having about 55 million rows of
 the form (int, int, smallint, smallint, int, int, int).  Each table has a
 single partial index on one of the integer columns.  The dump file was 14GB
 compressed.

 The loads were all done on the same machine, with the DB going on a pair
 of SATA drives in a RAID-0 stripe.  The machine has 2 non-HT Xeons and
 8GB RAM.  maintenance_work_mem was set to 512MB in all three cases.

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Re: [GENERAL] FYI: Load times for a largish DB in 8.2 vs. 8.3 vs. 8.4

2009-06-18 Thread Todd A. Cook

Vick Khera wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Todd A.
Cooktc...@blackducksoftware.com wrote:

The loads were all done on the same machine, with the DB going on a pair
of SATA drives in a RAID-0 stripe.  The machine has 2 non-HT Xeons and
8GB RAM.  maintenance_work_mem was set to 512MB in all three cases.


What if you double or triple the number of checkpoint segments?



checkpoint_segments was set to 128 for all tests.

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Re: [GENERAL] Question re 2 aggregates from 1 query

2009-06-18 Thread Scott Ribe
 If I understand you correctly..?

Yes, exactly! I think I was suffering from a flashback to a very old DBMS
that didn't support that use of distinct...

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Re: [GENERAL] Could not reattach to shared memory

2009-06-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tuan Hoang Anh wrote:
 I am running postgres 8.3.7 on windows server 2008 SP1. But this error 
 alway occur : FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=260, 
 addr=0240): 487
 .Here is my log
 2009-06-17 20:45:18 ICT LOG:  database system was shut down at 
 2009-06-17 17:42:45 ICT
 2009-06-17 20:45:22 ICT LOG:  database system is ready to accept connections
 2009-06-17 21:36:45 ICT LOG:  loaded library 
 $libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll
 FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=260, addr=0240): 487
 2009-06-17 21:36:48 ICT LOG:  could not receive data from client: 
 Unknown winsock error 10061
 2009-06-17 21:36:48 ICT LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
 
 When i run my application again and again, this error disappear. I have 
 NOD32 and add Postgres\bin\*.* to exclusions of NOD32.
 My system :
 Postgres 8.3.7
 Windows Server 2008 SP1.
 Postgres 8.4 beta 1 on other port.
 Postgres 8.1 on other port.
 NOD32

Yep, we have a TODO item for it, but no solution:

Diagnose problem where shared memory can sometimes not be
attached by postmaster children

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Re: [GENERAL] running pg_dump from python

2009-06-18 Thread Erik Jones


On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:


On 2009-06-14, Garry Saddington ga...@schoolteachers.co.uk wrote:
I ahve the following python file that I am running as an external  
method

in Zope.

def backup():
   import  os
   os.popen(c:/scholarpack/postgres/bin/pg_dump scholarpack  
c:/scholarpack/ancillary/scholarpack.sql)


are you sure you're using os.popen correctly?
you don't appear to be waiting for the pg_dump process to finish.




Right, the popen stuff should be something like:

p = os.popen(c:/scholarpack/postgres/bin/pg_dump scholarpack   c:/ 
scholarpack/ancillary/scholarpack.sql 2 c:/scholarpack/ancillary/ 
dump.err)

status = p.close()

Then check status to see if the command was successful or not.

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Re: [GENERAL] FYI: Load times for a largish DB in 8.2 vs. 8.3 vs. 8.4

2009-06-18 Thread Tom Lane
Todd A. Cook tc...@blackducksoftware.com writes:
 First, the numbers:

   PG VersionLoad time pg_database_size autovac
 --
8.2.13179 min   92,807,992,820on
8.3.7 180 min   84,048,744,044on (defaults)
8.4b2 206 min   84,028,995,344on (defaults)
8.4b2 183 min   84,028,839,696off

 The bulk of the data is in 16 tables, each having about 55 million rows of
 the form (int, int, smallint, smallint, int, int, int).  Each table has a
 single partial index on one of the integer columns.

Given that it's multiple tables, it'd be possible for autovacuum to
kick in and ANALYZE the data inserted into earlier tables while the
later ones were still being loaded.  If so, the discrepancy might be
explained by 8.4's more-aggressive statistics target, which means that
a background ANALYZE will take about 10x more work than before.

If you have time to repeat the experiments, it would be interesting to
see what happens with consistent default_statistics_target across 8.3
and 8.4.

regards, tom lane

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[GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Andrew Maclean
I posted this a while back but got no useful responses.

I have the following error message:

Error connecting to the server: server closed the connection unexpectedly.
 This probably means that the server terminated abnormally before or
while processing the request.

It happens intermittently both when using pgAdminIII and when using QT
so it is not a pgAdminIII issue.

Often the connection seems to succeed but you get a series of error
messages like the one above when attempting to open a database. It
seems to be a timing issue.

This is happening when using a local connection on vista, irrespective
of whether the antivirus is on or off. I can't see anything to change
in postgresql.conf that could alleviate this problem.

This does not happen with postgresql-8.3.5 but does happen with
postgresql-8.3.7.

This is happening on two different machines (both Vista SP2) running
different antivirus programs so I suspect there has been some change
to postgres that has triggered this problem.

Postgres has become unuseable on these machines.

Thanks for may help

Andrew

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Craig Ringer
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 09:12 +1000, Andrew Maclean wrote:
 I posted this a while back but got no useful responses.
 
 I have the following error message:
 
 Error connecting to the server: server closed the connection unexpectedly.
  This probably means that the server terminated abnormally before or
 while processing the request.

Look at the PostgreSQL server log to see what happened. On Windows, I
think this is in your  PostgreSQL data directory.

(List members: This seems to confuse Windows admins a lot - they're not
used to application log files, apparently. Is it worth having the win32
version of the server report sudden backend death via the Windows event
logging system, with a reference to the Pg log file? I'm not sure, since
it's not clear that most Windows admins look at Event Viewer either...)

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Andrew Maclean
Thanks for the quick response, the log shows the following:

2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  database system was interrupted; last
known up at 2009-06-18 19:14:37 EST
2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  database system was not properly shut
down; automatic recovery in progress
2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  record with zero length at 0/6614E8
2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  redo is not required
2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  database system is ready to accept connections
2009-06-19 07:51:47 EST LOG:  autovacuum launcher started
2009-06-19 07:54:51 EST LOG:  loaded library
$libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll
2009-06-19 07:54:51 EST LOG:  loaded library
$libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll
2009-06-19 07:54:51 EST LOG:  could not receive data from client:
Unknown winsock error 10061
2009-06-19 07:54:52 EST LOG:  loaded library
$libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
2009-06-19 10:47:35 EST LOG:  loaded library
$libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487
2009-06-19 10:49:04 EST WARNING:  worker took too long to start; cancelled
FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Craig
Ringercr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 09:12 +1000, Andrew Maclean wrote:
 I posted this a while back but got no useful responses.

 I have the following error message:

 Error connecting to the server: server closed the connection unexpectedly.
  This probably means that the server terminated abnormally before or
 while processing the request.

 Look at the PostgreSQL server log to see what happened. On Windows, I
 think this is in your  PostgreSQL data directory.

 (List members: This seems to confuse Windows admins a lot - they're not
 used to application log files, apparently. Is it worth having the win32
 version of the server report sudden backend death via the Windows event
 logging system, with a reference to the Pg log file? I'm not sure, since
 it's not clear that most Windows admins look at Event Viewer either...)

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Craig Ringer
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 10:50 +1000, Andrew Maclean wrote:

 2009-06-19 07:54:51 EST LOG:  could not receive data from client:
 Unknown winsock error 10061

Winsock error 10061 is WSAECONNREFUSED (10061) Connection Refused. I
presume that means the client has sent an RST packet, but ... wtf? Why?

Is the client on the same machine as the server? If not, is the client
running any sort of software firewall?

You say the two machines have two different AV products, but you don't
mention which ones. What products are they, and what versions of those
products?

I strongly suspect firewall / antivirus involvement. Can you _uninstall_
your AV/firewall on one of the Pg server machines, reboot it, and
re-test? Do not just disable it, completely uninstall it, just for
testing purposes.

 FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487

I've seen discussion of this one before, but never any sort of
resolution. 

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=enq=%22could+not+reattach+to+shared
+memory%22+%22[hackers]%22

Apparently it arises more often in the presence of antivirus software
and the like, but isn't known to be directly caused by it. Maybe somone
else can shed some more light on this one.

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[GENERAL] Invalid statement name (null) in line ## - what am I doing wrong ?

2009-06-18 Thread leif
   Hi,

   I have a problem when upgrading from 8.2.4 to 8.3/8.4 using ecpg with a 
prepare statement:

EXEC SQL PREPARE execquery FROM :stmt; line = __LINE__;
EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn DECLARE execcurs CURSOR FOR execquery; line = __LINE__;
EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn OPEN execcurs; line = __LINE__;
EXEC SQL ALLOCATE DESCRIPTOR execdesc; line = __LINE__;

   I get an SQL error: invalid statement name (null) on line ## (3rd line 
above) on the OPEN cursor statement. I have been digging a little in the ecpg 
output and noticed that the format of the ECPGprepare() function call has 
changed between 8.2.4 and 8.3++. Also the ecpg library has changed version 
libecpg.so.5 - libecpg.so.6.

   I am compiling my program on an (older) system with 8.2.4 installed and I 
need have my program running on a production system running 8.3.5 or higher. 
This seems to work fine, but for other reasons I wanted to upgrade my compile 
system with 8.3.5 and this started to give me the error mentioned above.

   An ldd on the program gives:

libecpg.so.6 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libecpg.so.6 (0xb7ed8000)
libpq.so.5 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libpq.so.5 (0xb7ebc000)

 which looks to be ok. (The 8.2.4 compiled program was using libecpg.so.5.)

   It seems to me that somehow the prepare statement (first line above) is 
compiled into a ECPGprepare() call with 5 parameters, but using a library 
function with only 3 parameters, even though it points to the libecpg.so.6, 
which includes code having the 5 parameter ECPGprepare() function.

   All PostgreSQL systems are natively installed from source on the various 
systems, i.e. compiled individually on each system. All my systems are running 
Linux, but with different versions of Linux.

   I have also tried the very newest version 8.4rc1, but with same result, the 
error above.

  Please help,

 Leif

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Andrew Maclean
One is running McAfee and the other is running Symantec Endpoint. It
does not matter whether the firewalls are on or off.

One thing I have noticed it that if I stop and restart the service
everything seems to work Ok.

Andrew


On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Craig
Ringercr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 10:50 +1000, Andrew Maclean wrote:

 2009-06-19 07:54:51 EST LOG:  could not receive data from client:
 Unknown winsock error 10061

 Winsock error 10061 is WSAECONNREFUSED (10061) Connection Refused. I
 presume that means the client has sent an RST packet, but ... wtf? Why?

 Is the client on the same machine as the server? If not, is the client
 running any sort of software firewall?

 You say the two machines have two different AV products, but you don't
 mention which ones. What products are they, and what versions of those
 products?

 I strongly suspect firewall / antivirus involvement. Can you _uninstall_
 your AV/firewall on one of the Pg server machines, reboot it, and
 re-test? Do not just disable it, completely uninstall it, just for
 testing purposes.

 FATAL:  could not reattach to shared memory (key=252, addr=0208): 487

 I've seen discussion of this one before, but never any sort of
 resolution.

 http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=enq=%22could+not+reattach+to+shared
 +memory%22+%22[hackers]%22

 Apparently it arises more often in the presence of antivirus software
 and the like, but isn't known to be directly caused by it. Maybe somone
 else can shed some more light on this one.

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Craig Ringer
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 11:30 +1000, Andrew Maclean wrote:
 One is running McAfee and the other is running Symantec Endpoint. It
 does not matter whether the firewalls are on or off.

I increasingly wonder if Symantec or McAfee can be persuaded to offer a
buildfarm machine with their software to PostgreSQL. Virus scanners on
servers are an (IMO nearly insane) fact of life on Windows, apparently,
and certainly on Windows desktops that may also run PostgreSQL, so it
needs to get along with them.

I'm far from certain that your issues are AV related, but if you want to
track them down the first thing to do is UNINSTALL one of your AV
products and see if the issues go away. Reinstall it once you know; the
point is to test whether the AV is part of the problem or not.

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Re: [GENERAL] Invalid statement name (null) in line ## - what am I doing wrong ?

2009-06-18 Thread Martin Gainty

can we see the original statement ?

can you combine the 2 statements to produce the necessary cursor
OPEN curs1 FOR EXECUTE 'SELECT * FROM ' || 
quote_ident($1);http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/plpgsql-cursors.html

takk
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 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:08:35 +0200
 From: l...@crysberg.dk
 To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Subject: [GENERAL] Invalid statement name (null) in line ## - what am I doing 
 wrong ?
 
Hi,
 
I have a problem when upgrading from 8.2.4 to 8.3/8.4 using ecpg with a 
 prepare statement:
 
 EXEC SQL PREPARE execquery FROM :stmt; line = __LINE__;
 EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn DECLARE execcurs CURSOR FOR execquery; line = 
 __LINE__;
 EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn OPEN execcurs; line = __LINE__;
 EXEC SQL ALLOCATE DESCRIPTOR execdesc; line = __LINE__;
 
I get an SQL error: invalid statement name (null) on line ## (3rd line 
 above) on the OPEN cursor statement. I have been digging a little in the ecpg 
 output and noticed that the format of the ECPGprepare() function call has 
 changed between 8.2.4 and 8.3++. Also the ecpg library has changed version 
 libecpg.so.5 - libecpg.so.6.
 
I am compiling my program on an (older) system with 8.2.4 installed and I 
 need have my program running on a production system running 8.3.5 or higher. 
 This seems to work fine, but for other reasons I wanted to upgrade my 
 compile system with 8.3.5 and this started to give me the error mentioned 
 above.
 
An ldd on the program gives:
 
 libecpg.so.6 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libecpg.so.6 (0xb7ed8000)
 libpq.so.5 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libpq.so.5 (0xb7ebc000)
 
  which looks to be ok. (The 8.2.4 compiled program was using libecpg.so.5.)
 
It seems to me that somehow the prepare statement (first line above) is 
 compiled into a ECPGprepare() call with 5 parameters, but using a library 
 function with only 3 parameters, even though it points to the libecpg.so.6, 
 which includes code having the 5 parameter ECPGprepare() function.
 
All PostgreSQL systems are natively installed from source on the various 
 systems, i.e. compiled individually on each system. All my systems are 
 running Linux, but with different versions of Linux.
 
I have also tried the very newest version 8.4rc1, but with same result, 
 the error above.
 
   Please help,
 
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[GENERAL] Maintaining user roles and permissions in Postgres - general question

2009-06-18 Thread Postgres User
Does anyone have a recommendation for maintaining user permissions on
a changing database?  The lack of an option to grant specific rights
to all objects of a given type within a Postgres db obviously places
the burden on the administrator to keep roles updated as objects are
added and dropped from a given database.

Unfortunately for us, we don't have a dedicated db admin, so this task
falls into the hands of developers who are probably less adapt at this
kind of task ;)

Is there a utility or set of scripts out there that helps a db owner
with permissions admin?

Thanks

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Re: [GENERAL] Invalid statement name (null) in line ## - what am I doing wrong ?

2009-06-18 Thread leif
   Oops, forgot to include that, sorry. This is from a log output since it is 
dynamically generated:

stmt= SELECT groupid, dg.ctrlid, userid, description, phoneno, ipaddr, online, 
active, dt.typename, null  FROM devicegroup dg, device d, devtype dt  WHERE 
userid = 23  AND typename = 'adm'  AND dg.ctrlid = d.id  AND dt.id = 
d.devtypeid  ORDER BY d.id;

   Running this (copy/paste) in psql gives me the expected result as well as 
when using the 8.2.4 compiled version.

   I don't think I would be able to do what you suggests, since both fields, 
tables and where are dynamically generated based on many things.

 Leif


- Martin Gainty mgai...@hotmail.com wrote:

 can we see the original statement ?
 
 can you combine the 2 statements to produce the necessary cursor
 OPEN curs1 FOR EXECUTE 'SELECT * FROM ' || quote_ident($1);
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/plpgsql-cursors.html
 
 takk
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  Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:08:35 +0200
  From: l...@crysberg.dk
  To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
  Subject: [GENERAL] Invalid statement name (null) in line ## - what
 am I doing wrong ?
 
  Hi,
 
  I have a problem when upgrading from 8.2.4 to 8.3/8.4 using ecpg
 with a prepare statement:
 
  EXEC SQL PREPARE execquery FROM :stmt; line = __LINE__;
  EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn DECLARE execcurs CURSOR FOR execquery; line
 = __LINE__;
  EXEC SQL AT :_thisDbConn OPEN execcurs; line = __LINE__;
  EXEC SQL ALLOCATE DESCRIPTOR execdesc; line = __LINE__;
 
  I get an SQL error: invalid statement name (null) on line ##
 (3rd line above) on the OPEN cursor statement. I have been digging a
 little in the ecpg output and noticed that the format of the
 ECPGprepare() function call has changed between 8.2.4 and 8.3++. Also
 the ecpg library has changed version libecpg.so.5 - libecpg.so.6.
 
  I am compiling my program on an (older) system with 8.2.4 installed
 and I need have my program running on a production system running
 8.3.5 or higher. This seems to work fine, but for other reasons I
 wanted to upgrade my compile system with 8.3.5 and this started to
 give me the error mentioned above.
 
  An ldd on the program gives:
 
  libecpg.so.6 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libecpg.so.6
 (0xb7ed8000)
  libpq.so.5 = /usr/local/Packages/pgsql-8.3.5/lib/libpq.so.5
 (0xb7ebc000)
 
  which looks to be ok. (The 8.2.4 compiled program was using
 libecpg.so.5.)
 
  It seems to me that somehow the prepare statement (first line above)
 is compiled into a ECPGprepare() call with 5 parameters, but using a
 library function with only 3 parameters, even though it points to the
 libecpg.so.6, which includes code having the 5 parameter ECPGprepare()
 function.
 
  All PostgreSQL systems are natively installed from source on the
 various systems, i.e. compiled individually on each system. All my
 systems are running Linux, but with different versions of Linux.
 
  I have also tried the very newest version 8.4rc1, but with same
 result, the error above.
 
  Please help,
 
  Leif
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Maintaining user roles and permissions in Postgres - general question

2009-06-18 Thread John R Pierce

Postgres User wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for maintaining user permissions on
a changing database?  The lack of an option to grant specific rights
to all objects of a given type within a Postgres db obviously places
the burden on the administrator to keep roles updated as objects are
added and dropped from a given database.

Unfortunately for us, we don't have a dedicated db admin, so this task
falls into the hands of developers who are probably less adapt at this
kind of task ;)

Is there a utility or set of scripts out there that helps a db owner
with permissions admin?
  


your question is just too vague to even begin to know what it is you want ?

there are scripts for GRANTALL like functionality.   But, if you use 
nested roles for your permissions, these things just don't come up.
Or if the database is owned by the account that creates the tables and 
accesses it, again, they don't come up at all.




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Re: [GENERAL] Maintaining user roles and permissions in Postgres - general question

2009-06-18 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Postgres
Userpostgres.develo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a recommendation for maintaining user permissions on
 a changing database?  The lack of an option to grant specific rights
 to all objects of a given type within a Postgres db obviously places
 the burden on the administrator to keep roles updated as objects are
 added and dropped from a given database.

 Unfortunately for us, we don't have a dedicated db admin, so this task
 falls into the hands of developers who are probably less adapt at this
 kind of task ;)

 Is there a utility or set of scripts out there that helps a db owner
 with permissions admin?

It's easy enough to write scripts to do this, HOWEVER, down that road
may lie madness.  Let's say you've got 100 different users who need
access to various parts of your database.  If you start assigning all
kinds of permissions to each user, you're gonna go insane.

What works better is to assign roles the proper permissions.  So,
hr_admin role can change records in hr tables, hr_user can read
records in hr tables and only change one or two, and so on.  Then when
someone comes on as an HR user, you just grant them the role.  They
leave the HR group, you revoke the role.  ding, job done.  You only
ever need to assign the rights once really, to the main role, and from
then on it's just one assignment / revocation to a user or users.

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Tom Lane
Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au writes:
 I increasingly wonder if Symantec or McAfee can be persuaded to offer a
 buildfarm machine with their software to PostgreSQL. Virus scanners on
 servers are an (IMO nearly insane) fact of life on Windows, apparently,
 and certainly on Windows desktops that may also run PostgreSQL, so it
 needs to get along with them.

There's always the friends don't let friends run servers on Windows
approach.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql-8.3.7 unexpected connection closures

2009-06-18 Thread Craig Ringer
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 01:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au writes:
  I increasingly wonder if Symantec or McAfee can be persuaded to offer a
  buildfarm machine with their software to PostgreSQL. Virus scanners on
  servers are an (IMO nearly insane) fact of life on Windows, apparently,
  and certainly on Windows desktops that may also run PostgreSQL, so it
  needs to get along with them.
 
 There's always the friends don't let friends run servers on Windows
 approach.

... a sentiment I can't really argue with most of the time.

Alas, people are sometimes forced into it by braindead corporate policy,
central IT management, and the like. It'd be nice if Pg could play well
with at least the less horrifyingly broken virus scanners out there, at
least when excluded from scanning. Mostly this seems to mean dealing
with DLLs being injected into the process address space.

Sometimes people also run Pg on home/work desktops, whether for
development or just for small databases. It'd be nice if this use worked
well in the face of a frankly rather hostile host (virus scanners,
firewalls, etc).

Of course, I've done enough development on Windows to know just how much
I dislike it, so I'm hardly leaping to the task...

I see lots of questions here that seem to be related to (a) virus
scanner interference and (b) installation/reinstallation. Lots of the
reinstall issues seem to be with people who don't really understand NT
users, ACLs, etc and aren't really competent to admin a machine, but
they do make me wonder if the Pg installer can do more to help them out,
eg:

The data directory you have specified (C:\PgData) already exists, but
cannot be accessed by the user you want to run PostgreSQL as. Would you
like to: [a] use a new data directory, [b] grant the postgresql user the
rights to access the data directory you have specified, or [c] change
the user you start PostgreSQL as to the user owning the data directory ?
[clean install to new directory][grant access to old directory][change
postgresql user][cancel installation]

The data directory you have specified (C:\PgData) contains a database
from an older version of PostgreSQL (8.2) that this version (8.3.6)
cannot access. Would you like to use a new data directory C:\PgData-8.3,
leaving the old one untouched? Note that PostgreSQL will not
automatically convert your data. You REALLY should read the upgrading
documentation before continuing. [clean install to new data
directory][cancel installation]

PostgreSQL has detected that another program, probably an older version
of PostgreSQL, is listening on port 5432. If you want to use this
version on the default port 5432, you will need to stop or uninstall the
other program first. [Change PostgreSQL port][Cancel installation]



Of course, if Windows development is un-fun, windows program
installation and installer building is more so.

--
Craig Ringer


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