Re: [GENERAL] postgres-8.4SS, pg_dump from macosx-10.6 has ssl handshake error 26% in

2010-07-28 Thread raf
Tom Lane wrote: raf r...@raf.org writes: i'm having a little openssl problem with pg_dump over a wireless lan with postgres-8.4SS (on linux) from enterprisedb and a macosx-10.6 client. when i run pg_dump from a wired linux client it's always fine but since i switched from a

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Howard Rogers, 28.07.2010 03:58: Thanks to some very helpful input here in earlier threads, I was finally able to pull together a working prototype Full Text Search 'engine' on PostgreSQL and compare it directly to the way the production Oracle Text works. The good news is that PostgreSQL is

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Vincenzo Romano
2010/7/28 Thomas Kellerer spam_ea...@gmx.net: Why is it that managers always see short term savings but fail to see longterm expenses? It's all about CAPEX vs OPEX, baby! Besides jokes, it's actually myopia. Because they ALREADY spent money for training they don't see the need for extra

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
Howard, that was a great read! I especially like your sentence Considering that any search containing more than a half-dozen search terms is more like an essay than a realistic search; and considering that returning half a million matches is more a data dump than a sensible search facility,

Re: [GENERAL] postgres-8.4SS, pg_dump from macosx-10.6 has ssl handshake error 26% in

2010-07-28 Thread Sachin Srivastava
the latest enterprisedb standard server is only 8.4.1 (New! 13-Oct-09) :-) By using the StackBuilder Plus application, you can upgrade your server to 8.4.4. -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com, the Enterprise Postgres http://www.enterprisedb.com

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread zhong ming wu
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Howard Rogers h...@diznix.com wrote: Thanks to some very helpful input here in earlier threads, I was finally able to pull together a working prototype Full Text Search 'engine' on PostgreSQL and compare it directly to the way the production Oracle Text works.

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Greg Williamson
zhong ming wu wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Howard Rogers h...@diznix.com wrote: For what it's worth, I wrote up the performance comparison here: http://diznix.com/dizwell/archives/153 I always thought there is a clause in their user agreement preventing the users from

Re: [GENERAL] psql problem

2010-07-28 Thread Greg Smith
Tom Lane wrote: The openssl installation I'm testing with is openssl-1.0.0a-1.fc13.x86_64 I don't know offhand what RHEL/CentOS 5.x are using but it's probably quite a lot older. Here's a CentOS 5.5 install that's kept up to date: $ rpm -qi openssl Name: openssl

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel Verite
zhong ming wu wrote: I always thought there is a clause in their user agreement preventing the users from publishing benchmarks like that. I must be mistaken. No you're correct. Currently, to download the current Oracle 11.2g, one must agree to:

[GENERAL] First inserts are faster than second ones

2010-07-28 Thread AlannY
Hi there. I have a strange behaviour about INSERT execution. I have very dummy PL/pgSQL function, which SELECT data from table; if data exists - skip, if not - add one. It's about 3'000'000 execution per program life. Everything works. But there are one weird thing. After DROP TABLE and then

Re: [GENERAL] psql problem

2010-07-28 Thread Gary Fu
On 07/27/2010 10:20 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Gary Fugary...@sigmaspace.com writes: Below is an example that I created. It works okay, but when I add any character in the comment or in the table definition, it fails (hangs). I checked the server process (with ps command), and I can see that

Re: [GENERAL] Histogram generator

2010-07-28 Thread Sam Mason
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:25:05PM -0400, Patrick May wrote: On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: select date_trunc('hour', foo) + interval '30 minutes' * floor(extract(minute from foo) / 30) as start, event, count(*) from bar group by 1, 2 order by 1 asc; Thanks! It

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Except for Drupal's partial support, I cant find any which has a sizeable deployment and community size behind it. Spree is a new RoR based system, that would obviously work with PG, but doesnt have a sizeable deployment base. Drupal + Ubercart + a ton of their modules work great. It is

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:24:12 -0600, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: Someone running Oracle is complaining about training costs? That seems a bit like complaining about needing to give the bellboy a $1 tip at a $1k a night hotel. Depending on how they are running their

[GENERAL] Want FUNCTION to return argv[0] thru argv[6]

2010-07-28 Thread Jerry Richards
Hello, I am using postgres-odbc and I created the following function which is called from a C-application. This function returns a single argv[0] of the form (a,b,c,d,e,f,g). CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION PresRoute(int, int) RETURNS TABLE(d1 text, d2 text, d3 text, d4 text, r1 bigint, r2 bigint,

[GENERAL] order in which rules are executed

2010-07-28 Thread Ranjeeth Nagarajan
Hello All, I have the below query regarding Rules in PostgreSQL: If I have a table which has multiple rules defined, are the rules executed in the order in which they are defined? Or are they executed in some random order? Thanks, Ranjeeth -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list

[GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Bill Thoen
I'm building a national database of agricultural information and one of the layers is a bit more than a gigabyte per state. That's 1-2 million records per state, with a mult polygon geometry, and i've got about 40 states worth of data. I trying to store everything in a single PG table. What

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Vincenzo Romano
2010/7/28 Bill Thoen bth...@gisnet.com: I'm building a national database of agricultural information and one of the layers is a bit more than a gigabyte per state. That's 1-2 million records per state, with a mult polygon geometry, and i've got about 40 states worth of data. I trying to store

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 11:09 -0600, Bill Thoen wrote: I'm building a national database of agricultural information and one of the layers is a bit more than a gigabyte per state. That's 1-2 million records per state, with a mult polygon geometry, and i've got about 40 states worth of data. I

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 22:37 +0530, Sandeep Srinivasa wrote: Could you point me to any deployments of Drupal + Ubercart + Postgres ? Did you not see the links below? Drupal + Ubercart + a ton of their modules work great. It is what drives:

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Alex Thurlow
You should look at table partitioning. That is, you make a master table and then make a table for each state that would inherit the master. That way you can query each state individually or you can query the whole country if need be.

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread P Kishor
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 11:09 -0600, Bill Thoen wrote: I'm building a national database of agricultural information and one of the layers is a bit more than a gigabyte per state. That's 1-2 million records per

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Sandeep Srinivasa
Could you point me to any deployments of Drupal + Ubercart + Postgres ? It felt really strange that nobody on IRC or forums could answer that they had been involved in a postgres based deployment. thanks! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.comwrote: Except

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Terry Fielder
If all the table files are the same structure, its really not hard, just a UNION clause. Indeed, one can even create a VIEW that leverages that union clause to simplify the code that needs to grab from the multiple tables. As far as indexes, single table COULD be OK if you throw enough

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Bryan Hinton
Under the assumption that you properly modeled the data - achieved a nice balance of normalization and de-normalization, examined the size of your relations in such a context, and accounted for how the data will grow over time and if it will grow over time, then partitioning, as Joshua mentioned,

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Kellerer spam_ea...@gmx.net writes: Howard Rogers, 28.07.2010 03:58: For what it's worth, I wrote up the performance comparison here: http://diznix.com/dizwell/archives/153 Very interesting reading. Indeed. Would you mind sharing the tables, index structures and search queries that

Re: [GENERAL] Want FUNCTION to return argv[0] thru argv[6]

2010-07-28 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Jerry Richards jerry.richa...@teotech.com wrote: Hello, I am using postgres-odbc and I created the following function which is called from a C-application.  This function returns a single argv[0] of the form (a,b,c,d,e,f,g). CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION

Re: [GENERAL] Incorrect FTS result with GIN index

2010-07-28 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Tom, you can download dump http://mira.sai.msu.su/~megera/tmp/search_tab.dump Oleg On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Tom Lane wrote: Oleg Bartunov o...@sai.msu.su writes: I recommend post your problem to -hackers mailing list. I have no idea, what could be a problem. I wonder whether the problem is not

Re: [GENERAL] Inheritance and trigger/FK propagation

2010-07-28 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:36:16AM +0200, Davor J. wrote: For me Vick's question just proves that inheritance in relational databases is a complex issue. It shows that trigger propagation is not always desired, Now that's for sure :-) Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net E167

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Vincenzo Romano
2010/7/28 P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com: ... Two. Partitioning is not the perfect solution. My database will ultimately have about 13 million rows per day (it is daily data) for about 25 years. So, I need either -- - One big table with 25 * 365 * 13 million rows. Completely undoable. - 25

Re: [GENERAL] Inheritance and trigger/FK propagation

2010-07-28 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:33:19AM +0200, Davor J. wrote: Well... I found it out the hard way :). There are some extra caveats I have come along. There is the very clumsy ALTER TABLE table_name INHERIT(parent_table) which simply presupposes the parent's columns, but doesn't enforce it

Re: [GENERAL] order in which rules are executed

2010-07-28 Thread David Fetter
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:16:45PM +0530, Ranjeeth Nagarajan wrote: Hello All, I have the below query regarding Rules in PostgreSQL: If I have a table which has multiple rules defined, are the rules executed in the order in which they are defined? Or are they executed in some random

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Otandeka Simon Peter
There are Postgres Enterprise solutions available although I think they are commercial. You may want to take a look and see if they can be helpful to you. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Vincenzo Romano vincenzo.rom...@notorand.it wrote: 2010/7/28 P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com: ... Two.

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Stephen Frost
* P Kishor (punk.k...@gmail.com) wrote: Three. At least, in my case, the overhead is too much. My data are single bytes, but the smallest data type in Pg is smallint (2 bytes). That, plus the per row overhead adds to a fair amount of overhead. My first reaction to this would be- have you

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread P Kishor
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote: * P Kishor (punk.k...@gmail.com) wrote: Three. At least, in my case, the overhead is too much. My data are single bytes, but the smallest data type in Pg is smallint (2 bytes). That, plus the per row overhead adds to a

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Vick Khera
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM, P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind, the circa 100 million rows was for only part of the db. If I were to build the entire db, I would have about 4 billion rows for a year, if I were to partition the db by years. And, partitioning by days resulted

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Sandeep Srinivasa
yup I did. The reason why I wanted examples was to amply demonstrate,to clients, that postgresql is viable. It is kinda weird if the only examples I have are restricted to the postgresql _community_ websites themselves. This may sound irrelevant, but please do understand the huge opposition to

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:36 +0530, Sandeep Srinivasa wrote: yup I did. The reason why I wanted examples was to amply demonstrate,to clients, that postgresql is viable. It is kinda weird if the only examples I have are restricted to the postgresql _community_ websites themselves. Well you

[GENERAL] Need help with full text index configuration

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Hirt
I have some data that can be searched, and it looks like the parser is making some assumptions about the data that aren't true in our case and I'm trying to figure out how to exclude a token type. I haven't been able to find the answer to my question so far, so I thought I would ask here.

Re: [GENERAL] How Big is Too Big for Tables?

2010-07-28 Thread Peter Bex
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 02:05:47PM -0500, P Kishor wrote: each row is half a dozen single byte values, so, it is actually 6 bytes per row (six columns). Even if I combine them somehow, still the per row overhead (which, I believe, is about 23 bytes) is more than the data. But, that is not the

Re: [GENERAL] Need help with full text index configuration

2010-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Brian Hirt bh...@mobygames.com writes: For example instead of the parser recognizing three asciiword it recognizes one asciiword and one file. I'd like a way to have the / just get parsed as blank. AFAIK the only good way to do that is to write your own parser :-(. The builtin parser

[GENERAL] Pglesslog issue

2010-07-28 Thread raghu ram
Hi, I was installed the Postgresql 8.3 and trying the use the pg_lesslog_1.4.1_pg83 to reduce the size of WAL file when the WAL file is archived. 1. Download the pg_lesslog_1.4.1_pg83.tar.gz file from pgfoundry. 2. unpacked the pglesslog source. 3. trying to run the make...facing below issue::

Re: [GENERAL] Need help with full text index configuration

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Hirt
Tom, Thanks for the quick reply. Doing a frontend mapping was my next option since I really don't care about / and the ability to search on it. Preventing the parser from using the file tokenizer seemed like a better solution so I wanted to go down that path first (there are other false

Re: [GENERAL] Need help with full text index configuration

2010-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Brian Hirt bh...@mobygames.com writes: I'm really confused about what ALTER TEXT SEARCH CONFIGURATION dict DROP MAPPING FOR file actually does. The documentation seems to make it sound like it does what I want, but I guess it does something else. No, it doesn't affect the parser's behavior

[GENERAL] Danger of idiomatic plpgsql loop for merging data

2010-07-28 Thread J. Greg Davidson
Hi fellow PostgreSQL hackers, I just got burned by the idiomatic loop documented in the PostgreSQL manual as Example 39-2. Exceptions with UPDATE/INSERT I have now replaced this standard idiom with a safer one described below. What went wrong: It seems that the table I was either inserting

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:45:47 -0700 Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:36 +0530, Sandeep Srinivasa wrote: yup I did. The reason why I wanted examples was to amply demonstrate,to clients, that postgresql is viable. It is kinda weird if the only examples I

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Greg Smith
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: Are there companies that offer drupal/postgres tuning? I am quite sure that Command Prompt would be happy and fully prepared to sell you Drupal + PostgreSQL tuning services. We also have some projects around it, and I'm sure other consulting companies or

Re: [GENERAL] Comparison of Oracle and PostgreSQL full text search

2010-07-28 Thread Howard Rogers
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Daniel Verite dan...@manitou-mail.org wrote:        zhong ming wu wrote: I always thought there is a clause in their user agreement preventing the users from publishing benchmarks like that. I must be mistaken. No you're correct. Currently, to download the

[GENERAL] Dynamic data model, locks and performance

2010-07-28 Thread Pierre Thibault
Hello people of the Postgresql world! I am wondering if Postgresql would a great choice for my database needs. I would like to create a db with dynamic data model. I would like to be able to add tables and columns to existing tables while other queries are running. Will Postresql be able to

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Gainty
the one drupal programmer that programmed the system quit to do other things multi-threaded issues..integration with external security.. and/or anything critical / mildly useful will send you into support h*ll one stock form with no integration with clients database or j2ee server hosted

Re: [GENERAL] Dynamic data model, locks and performance

2010-07-28 Thread Craig Ringer
On 29/07/10 07:06, Pierre Thibault wrote: Hello people of the Postgresql world! I am wondering if Postgresql would a great choice for my database needs. I would like to create a db with dynamic data model. I would like to be able to add tables and columns to existing tables while other

Re: [GENERAL] Dynamic data model, locks and performance

2010-07-28 Thread Pierre Thibault
2010/7/28 Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au On 29/07/10 07:06, Pierre Thibault wrote: I doubt anyone can make any useful recommendations without a more complete explanation of what you're trying to achieve and why you want to do what you have described. Thank you Craig, Yes, I was

Re: [GENERAL] postgres-8.4SS, pg_dump from macosx-10.6 has ssl handshake error 26% in

2010-07-28 Thread raf
Sachin Srivastava wrote: the latest enterprisedb standard server is only 8.4.1 (New! 13-Oct-09) :-) By using the StackBuilder Plus application, you can upgrade your server to 8.4.4. -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com, the Enterprise Postgres

Re: [GENERAL] Dynamic data model, locks and performance

2010-07-28 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Pierre Thibault pierre.thibau...@gmail.com wrote: What I would like to do is enable users to create their own data model. Enable them to create a model and make it evolve. For example, it would be cool to create a model to represent car adds. Then, the

Re: [GENERAL] postgres-8.4SS, pg_dump from macosx-10.6 has ssl handshake error 26% in

2010-07-28 Thread raf
raf wrote: Sachin Srivastava wrote: the latest enterprisedb standard server is only 8.4.1 (New! 13-Oct-09) :-) By using the StackBuilder Plus application, you can upgrade your server to 8.4.4. -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com, the

Re: [GENERAL] Dynamic data model, locks and performance

2010-07-28 Thread Craig Ringer
On 29/07/10 11:15, Pierre Thibault wrote: What I would like to do is enable users to create their own data model. Then, really, SQL databases aren't wonderful for your needs. You can use them for dynamic, user-defined schema, but you'll always be swimming up hill. I thought about using a

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:56:56 -0400 Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: Are there companies that offer drupal/postgres tuning? I am quite sure that Command Prompt would be happy and fully prepared to sell you Drupal + PostgreSQL tuning services. We also have

Re: [GENERAL] Which CMS/Ecommerce/Shopping cart ?

2010-07-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:04 +0200, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: BTW up to my memory Django suggest postgres. I haven't seen any benchmark of Django with pg vs mysql. Django was originally developed for Postgres but really, they are wholly different beasts. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL.org