Dennis Gearon wrote:
How do I set up a one to many relationship in Postgres, (any DB for
that matter.)
Read about foreign keys:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/ddl-constraints.html#DDL-CONSTRAINTS-FK
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Dennis Gearon wrote:
I have an older manual.
Here are newer ones:
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Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
I get this error after doing the upgrade on FreeBSD 5.2.1:
The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 7.3, which
is not compatible with this version 7.4.2
Should I just re-initdb and the import my dump file?
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Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 06:06 schrieb David Garamond:
SQL Server only allow one NULL in a unique constraint column (it's the
unique index that does that, so the unique constraint behaves like that
too). The question is, what is the best way to simulate that behaviour
in Postgres? Can a
Alexander Cohen wrote:
I understand that, but i still really need some kind of reference on
what files do what. Does anything of that sort exist?
Not really. Read the man pages for the programs, use strings to see
what files they might open, use ldd to see what libraries are used,
delete all
Alexander Cohen wrote:
Is there a way to get the list of connected users to a postgres
server?
ps ax | grep postgres:
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victor wrote:
I have to implement a structure of rights.
I'm intrested if postgresql can restrict these
operations(insert, update, select, delete) for a specified postgresql
user.
If this is possible, please tell me were could I find some
documentation about this subject.
Alexander Cohen wrote:
Im looking to remove everyth9ing that is not absolutely necessary in
the pgsql folder of my postgres server. Is there anyplace i can find
information on what all the files in lib, share and bin are for? Im
looking for somewhere or someone that can explain what each file
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pg_dumpall backup
from 7.4 trying: pg_restore backup
results in postgres' [Archiver]s suspicion that backup
was not a valid archive.
What you backup by pg_dumpall is to be restored using psql, not
pg_restore. Read the man pages of pg_dump and pg_dumpall to confirm
David Garamond wrote:
Actually, what is needed is:
- an exact mirror at all times;
- a very simple, straightforward, and fast way to failover;
done by software.
http://www.drbd.org/ works well for us and can be set up quickly and
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William Sweet wrote:
support is enabled. Now, I'd like to only store Unicode chars in my
PostgreSQL dbs. I hear there are 3 ways to accomplish this:
1) during PostgreSQL configure/build (installation level)
2) during initdb (cluster level)
3) CREATE DATABASE (db level)
Each one of these
Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 16:37 schrieb Priem, Alexander:
But if you use anything other than C, you can't use indexes in
Like-clauses, right?
No, see http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/indexes-opclass.html.
Would lc-collate=C be bad in combination with UNICODE encoding? What
Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 09:48 schrieb Stijn Vanroye:
Wouldn't it be better if I just set my client encoding to UNICODE in stead
of LATIN1? I suppose the UNICODE encoding set is understood by windows (and
delphi), since I write progs for a win enviroment.
That really depends exclusively
Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 13:17 schrieb John Sidney-Woollett:
Does anyone know what the effect of --lc-collate=C --encoding=UNICODE will
be for sorts (and indexes?) when a multibyte unicode character is
encountered?
You get your strings sorted in binary order of the UTF-8 encoding, which
Am Mittwoch, 21. April 2004 14:37 schrieb Priem, Alexander:
I have a PostgreSQL 7.4 database running, which was initdb-ed using
standard (SQL_ASCII) encoding, with -lc-collate=C option set.
Everything is running fine, but I just discovered something funny. If text
containing characters like ë
Alexander Cohen wrote:
i will get them back in the following order in the tuples:
Alex
Barbara
Cohen
alex
But i want them back likke this:
Alex
alex
Barbara
Cohen
Set your locale to something other than C.
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Tom Lane wrote:
But shouldn't the minor-version bump between 7.3 and 7.4 libpq.so
have prevented the dynamic linker from accepting the 7.3 libpq.so as
the one to use? I thought the rule was same major version as
requested, minor version = requested.
Maybe, but the directory search order
Tom Lane wrote:
On investigation, I can't find any sign that my Linux box does
anything with library minor version numbers either. That seems to
mean that we should be bumping the major version for every release
(unless we made no externally visible changes at all, not even
upward-compatible
Francois Suter wrote:
I installed gettext using Fink and then gave it a go. The configure
part went ok, but make complained that it couldn't find msgfmt.
Either the package is split up into a run-time and a devel package, or
it's just plain broken, because msgfmt certainly belongs into any
Jerome Lyles wrote:
I have installed Postgresql 7.4 on a Suse 9.0 system using apt.
I cannot do this:
/usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
Just run
/etc/init.d/postgresql start
and it will be taken care of. Read the README files in
/usr/share/doc/packages/postgresql-* to
Jeremiah Jahn wrote:
although it will be taken care of, make sure that initdb sets the
local language to C or your string indexes will not be used.. Unless
this has been fixed and en_US works as as well?
It has been fixed. Be sure to read the documentation about details.
Matt Davies wrote:
2. Documentation: In delving deeper into the Postgress database I
have tried to find whatever I can to learn more. I have found an
Oreilly book out there, but the TOC reads almost the exact same as
the online documentation. I ask myself - have they lifted the
documentation
Bopolissimus Platypus wrote:
create table test (
id serial primary key,
t_end timestamp);
there's an index:
create index test_t_end on test(t_end);
can or should a query like:
select login,t_end from test order by t_end desc;
use the index?
It can, but that does not mean that
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2004 16:32 schrieb Earnshaw, Peter J:
I currently have postgresql-7.3.4-3.rh19 installed and need to compile with
options: --enable-multibyte and --enable-unicode.
These options do not exist in the 7.3 series. (They are the default
behavior.)
I also need to compile
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
I think what you are really looking for is a regular summary of the
hackers' activity, to know where things are moving. Someone used to
do that, but I don't know what become of it.
Isn't that the PostgreSQL Weekly news from Robert Treat?
Yes, that's the one I meant.
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Gaetano Mendola wrote:
No one will be at the next fosdem ?
They haven't invited us. Peter was going to check but I haven't
heard back from him.
I will be in attendance, but as far as I know there isn't going to be
anyone holding a talk about PostgreSQL or something
Andreas writes:
Since it is no official RPM anyway you could build it yourself as well
if your server holds the necesary compilers and whatnot ...
I stopped using SuSE's binaries for PG some time ago since they don't
upgrade officially on newer versions and I'd rather have a clean
Joseph Shraibman writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
BTW, 7.4 also has a specialized index opclass that can be used to
create LIKE-compatible indexes even if you are using a non-C locale.
Where is that documented?
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/indexes-opclass.html
Is it automatic for
Christian Kienle writes:
Here are two pictures of the PostgreSQL booth on the Linux World Expo
Conference in Frankfurt 2003.
There are more photos here:
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/past-events/lwe2003-pictures/
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Tom Lane wrote:
Hm. The backend flat-out rejects all attempts at GRANT on untrusted
languages, even if you are superuser and the grantee is too. I'm not
totally sure about the rationale for that (Peter?)
Why would you need it? It's only going to create fuss about useless
functionality.
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Josué Maldonado wrote:
Hello list,
A friend of mine just asked me this, why is postgres an ORDBMS and
what does it mean and how to apply it on real development.
We are OR (object-relational) because we are extendable, unlike a
typical DBMS.
No, it means there are
Bret Busby wrote:
Regarding the PostgreSQL training that is provided by companies, a
problem with that, as it exists, is that, insofar as I am aware, that
training is not standardised,
Linux training is not standardized by any measure either. Lots of
companies and institutions offer their
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
I was just trying to find a query what would determine, given a
username, what tables they can see and what permissions they have on
those tables. Obviously this would only work for superusers, but does
anyone have any ideas?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the command
CREATE OPERATOR name (
PROCEDURE = func_name
[, LEFTARG = lefttype ] [, RIGHTARG = righttype ]
[, COMMUTATOR = com_op ] [, NEGATOR = neg_op ]
[, RESTRICT = res_proc ] [, JOIN = join_proc ]
[, HASHES ] [, MERGES ]
[, SORT1 =
connect via PHP just fine.
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. The library could then also be
installed, but also be redistributable, so that developers could build these
solutions.
You might be interested in Clustered JDBC (http://c-jdbc.objectweb.org/),
which implements a proxy approach but does not require knowledge of the
database-specific protocol.
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Unix-domain sockets.
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in the SPEC file. I could
not install the contrib stuff but I really want the plperl and plperlu
languages.
These languages are not in the -contrib package.
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CSN writes:
I upgraded to 7.4 a few days ago and am getting these
errors when importing dumps: permission denied to set
session authority and permission denied for schema
public. Not all of the dump is imported successfully.
Looks like you need to restore as superuser.
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that
tables with zero columns are valid, and the behavior of all commands and
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as thread-safe code.
(--enable-thread-safety) */
#define USE_THREADS 1
So this seems to be the collision.
Fixed in 7.4 branch and current.
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arbitrarz expressions directly. The documentation contains more
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Lamar Owen writes:
In the case of FreeBSD, isn't it the preference to use the ports system?
The preference is to use the ports system once and then use the resulting
packages the subsequent times.
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with this?
If you manage to build RPMs for several operating systems out of one
source RPM, great job. But the above still applies.
The directory structure is a mirror of the SuSE FTP site.
On ftp.postgresql.org? I'm only talking about ftp.postgresql.org.
Yes.
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Marc G. Fournier writes:
And when will the coordinator learn that it is called PostgreSQL 7.4 and
not PostgreSQL v7.4?
Habit :)
I would appreciate it if you could abandon that habit and stop making us
look like losers.
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of yourself, you're creating actual
technical problems. I take offense at it because for years you've simply
ignored all requests to do something about it. But I'm certainly not the
only one who considers it odd.
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Joshua D. Drake writes:
Somebody please explain to me what the hell a difference it makes if
we have a v in front of the version number?
Packaging tools, packaging standards, convention, consistency of public
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Keith C. Perry writes:
What am I missing?
A reproduceable test case.
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. A pg_dumpall dump
must be restored as a superuser.
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the constraint defs on a domain .
information_schema.domain_constriants does not have the
definations just the names are present.
You need to join domain_constraints and check_constraints.
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in separate
clusters, respectively, using three different directories, such as
$ postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
$ postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/qat
$ postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/dev
... then the second and third command will fail.
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Carlos Oliva writes:
Not even for the beta version?
In that case you want the file postgresql-7.4RC1.tar.gz. (or .bz2).
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Jan Poslusny writes:
Is some way to create two databases in the same database cluster
with different encodings (specially utf-8 and iso 8859-2) and good
sortings ?
No.
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the release candidate tarball and run ./configure; make all;
make check; make install on them to see whether everything works. If you
have several compilers available (GCC and vendor compiler), try both.
Report the results together with `uname -a` to
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Because the SQL standard says so.
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? Number of
columns? Number of tables? anything else?
Adding a column runs in constant time.
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clause.
PostgreSQL will choose to use an index when it thinks it will be faster,
but this is not always the case. If you want to learn more about how
indexes work or how to evaluate query performance, please read the
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strong cpu ?
Lots of memory, so you can cache a large fraction of the data in memory.
A good hard disk, if you do a lot of updates and/or your memory is not big
enough to cache most of the data. CPU is not as important.
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Mark Harrison writes:
Is there a way to optimize count(*) such that it does not have
to do a sequential scan?
No. If you need to count a lot, you need to store the information
separately.
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instance?
Yes.
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pw writes:
How can I typecast a date generated from VARCHAR fields into
a date field
Using CAST().
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B.W.H. van Beest writes:
It seems so elementary, but how I get a list of which tables are
available in a database. I can't find an SQL command for this, but there
must be a way!
SELECT * FROM pg_tables;
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Dennis Gearon writes:
How soon will 7.5 come out? (yes, I know, 7.4 is beta right now).
All signs point to September 24, 2004.
How difficult is it to set up cygwin?
I found it quite easy.
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Ron Johnson writes:
test1=# create domain d_tinyint as smallint constraint chk_tinyint CHECK (smallint
between 0 and 255);
ERROR: DefineDomain: CHECK Constraints not supported
So, how would I create a domain that limits a smallint?
You would have to wait for PostgreSQL 7.4.
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, or even a single
webmaster, notwithstanding the fact that there are de-facto experts in
these fields. The method you are choosing might be a good way to get
things done now and quickly, but it's not scalable.
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cannot contain null bytes. The type bytea can store arbitrary
binary data. It requires you to escape null bytes so '\\000'.
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Jillian Carroll writes:
As your new PostgreSQL Master of Ceremonies,
What?
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that have already done a significant
amount of work, this is a call to start fixing up the remaining missing
pieces in time for the 7.4 release.
For those languages that still need a significant amount of work, do not
worry about the 7.4 release date. There will always be a 7.4.1 release.
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connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432?
createdb: database creation failed
You did not start the database server.
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printable version are so hard to find.
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or
do I have to explicitly unlock the table somehow?
Show us what commands you are running, in what sequence, how many
sessions, etc.
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you cannot use it in portable applications.
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of us can't
identify the characters or see what is wrong with them.
Also, try a more recent PostgreSQL version, such as 7.3.4.
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examples of these
kind of functions (in C or C++).
contrib/tablefunc
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works with MySQL and no other database system. Are the following cases
legal?
That depends on whether the MySQL client library is LGPL (up to version 3)
or GPL (from version 4 on). But a PostgreSQL forum is probably an
entirely inappropriate place to discuss this.
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). This might light to complications if at some
point you want to reinstall an RPM package for PostgreSQL.
The other option is that you look for an RPM package of the PostgreSQL
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the command CREATE DATABASE or ALTER DATABASE. But if you use pg_dump -C,
then ALTER DATABASE ought to be dumped.
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cover the most popular
languages, but there should be room for serious external development.
Btw., one concern I have about putting this PHP thing in the core is that
it would create a circular build dependency between PostgreSQL and PHP.
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the outer query.
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Deepa K writes:
Is proper error numbers are defined for all
error strings returned by pgsql c library.
No, you will have to wait for version 7.4 for that.
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the opposite setting he will not be happy either. So no one is
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is not that great. A human is not going to mentally switch his
preferred day/month order within the same SQL session.
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Travis Hume writes:
So at this point all selects are screwed unless I issue a ROLLBACK;
Why? Is there a way for SELECTs (or all SQL) statement that fail to NOT
have this behaviour?
You probably set autocommit to off. Turn it on.
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Peter Pilsl writes:
Is there a function that returns the number of the current outputline
The client application is going to have to count the row numbers anyway in
order to loop through them, so there is no obvious benefit of having the
server deal with this.
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() as well, though I don't see it in the
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MySQL behaviour?
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are going to be NULL unless you specified something
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Emmanuel SARACCO writes:
is there a way to know the creation time of a postgresql object (table,
view etc.)?
Not unless you store it yourself.
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Emmanuel SARACCO writes:
is it necessary to use plans in a c stored procedure?
It's not only not necessary, it's not even possible.
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with that.
PL/pgSQL compiles and caches the functions you are executing, so if you
change the database schema under it (or in it) you lose. This is an
intentional design choice. If you want to execute code dynamically you
should look at the EXECUTE command in PL/pgSQL, or for some other
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the $1. E.g.,
WHEN date_part(\'dow\',$1)=6 THEN date($1)+0
The $1 etc. are not macros, they are identifiers representing a typed
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This is a different way to access PostgreSQL via Perl. This module is
also include in the PostgreSQL distribution.
Postgres-1.4.tar.gz
This is an interface to Postgres95, not PostgreSQL.
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the database you're connected to.
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Mihai Gheorghiu writes:
Can there be anything like global constants in PG?
CREATE TABLE my_constant ( val integer );
INSERT INTO my_constant VALUES ( 1024 );
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with Count(*), which acts differently with respect to nulls, so it depends
whether you want to use it.
Besides that, I don't see anything blatantly obvious to speed this up.
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