Re: [HACKERS] Two-phase commit issues

2005-05-20 Thread David Garamond
Tom Lane wrote: [ Shrug... ] I remain of the opinion that 2PC is a solution in search of a problem, because it does not solve the single point of failure issue (just moves same from the database to the 2PC controller). But some people want it anyway, and they aren't going to be satisfied

Re: [HACKERS] Status of server side Large Object support?

2004-11-28 Thread David Garamond
Joe Conway wrote: Not if the column is storage type EXTERNAL. See a past discussion here: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2003-07/msg01447.php what is the reasoning behind this syntax? ALTER TABLE [ ONLY ] table [ * ] ALTER [ COLUMN ] column SET STORAGE { PLAIN | EXTERNAL |

Re: [HACKERS] Embedded postgresql

2004-10-14 Thread David Garamond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know if there are any discussions about creating an embedded version on postgresql. My thoughts go towards building/porting a sqlite equivalent of pg. Yes, there have been several. Peruse the archives: http://archives.postgresql.org/ -- dave

Re: [HACKERS] Two-phase commit security restrictions

2004-10-13 Thread David Garamond
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: What kind of security restrictions do we want for prepared transactions? Who has the right to finish a transaction that was started by user A? At least the original user, I suppose, but who else? Under what account is the transaction manager typically going to run? A

Re: [HACKERS] Two-phase commit security restrictions

2004-10-13 Thread David Garamond
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Another approach I've been thinking about is to allow anyone that knows the (user-supplied) global transaction identifier to finish the transaction, and hide the gids of running transactions from regular users. That way, the gid acts as a secret token that's only known by

[HACKERS] pg_dump and blobs

2004-10-04 Thread David Garamond
Why doesn't pg_dump include blob by default? I understand that older pg_dump didn't deal with blobs, and blobs are now kind of obsolete in favor of BYTEA/TEXT, but blobs are every bit a part of a database. Perhaps only exclude blobs when -t is specified? Then -b is required to include blob.

Re: [HACKERS] FYI: Fujitsu

2004-09-08 Thread David Garamond
Neil Conway wrote: I've accepted an offer from Fujitsu Australia Software Technologies to work on PostgreSQL full-time for them for the next twelve months in Sydney, Australia. I'll be working with Gavin Sherry and two other full-time developers from FAST. I'm grateful to Fujitsu for giving me

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL as an application server

2004-08-06 Thread David Garamond
Jonathan M. Gardner wrote: Thoughts? Comments? Hasn't Oracle done something like this? Probably this is more suited to -general? I haven't done anything near this. I wonder how much more painful it is to debug the application, put it under version control, etc. Personally, I can't stand

[HACKERS] pg_ctl and failing postmaster

2004-07-25 Thread David Garamond
When postmaster fails to run due to e.g. datadir being set to 755, 'pg_ctl start' incorrectly reports postmaster successfully started. I'm not sure how to fix this though. Do a [shorter] wait for 'start' mode by default? Install a child handler (can you even do that with shell script?) This

[HACKERS] postmaster.opts, moving datadir around, and pg_ctl

2004-07-25 Thread David Garamond
I had datadir in /dir1 and I started postmaster with: postmaster -D /dir1 this recorded -D /dir1 in /dir1/postmaster.opts. Then I stopped postmaster and moved /dir1 to /dir2. I then started postmaster with: PG_DATA=/dir2 pg_ctl start It worked normally. But: PG_DATA=/dir2 pg_ctl restart

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread David Garamond
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor ones. Either send in a patch or committers can modify the file

Re: [HACKERS] creating a cluster

2004-06-23 Thread David Garamond
Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 09:16:35PM -0400, Alexander Cohen wrote: Does anyone have any new ways to create clusters without using initdb or bootstrap mode? I need to be able to create one without those 2 things. Any ideas? initdb'ing somewhere else and copying the resulting

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2004-06-06 Thread David Garamond
Tom Lane wrote: Granted, the script itself is faulty, but since some other OS projects (like Ruby, with the same x.y.z numbering) do guarantee they never will have double digits in version number component Oh? What's their plan for the release after 9.9.9? As for Ruby, it probably won't expect

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2004-06-05 Thread David Garamond
This probably has been discussed and is probably a very minor point, but consider how many more years we want to be able to use the single digit.single digit major release numbering. Assuming 1 year between major releases (7.3.0 - 7.4.0 = +- 1 year), then we have 7.5-9.9 = 26 years = up until

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2004-06-05 Thread David Garamond
Dave Page wrote: From: David Garamond Sent: Sat 6/5/2004 9:28 AM Cc: postgresql advocacy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ? Assuming 1 year between major releases (7.3.0 - 7.4.0 = +- 1 year), then we have 7.5-9.9 = 26 years = up until +- jul 2030. if we

Re: [HACKERS] Call for 7.5 feature completion

2004-05-22 Thread David Garamond
Robert Treat wrote: Given that the cygwin version is currently labeled as not ready for production I would say you are right. The truth is that many will never declare win32 good for production simply because of the OS it runs on, but we still want to make it as solid as possible. People _do_ use

Re: [HACKERS] The features I'm waiting for.

2004-05-04 Thread David Garamond
scott.marlowe wrote: For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are nested transactions. While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature

Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-04-23 Thread David Garamond
Bruce Momjian wrote: My question is, What can we learn from MySQL? I don't know there is anything, but I think it makes sense to ask the question. MySQL was my first introduction to SQL databases (I had dabbled with Clipper and Foxpro years earlier, but only for a couple of months and had

Re: [HACKERS] subversion vs cvs

2004-03-24 Thread David Garamond
Sailesh Krishnamurthy wrote: I've had plenty of pain with cvs in terms of directories not being first-class etc .. but I don't really contribute to pgsql so you guys probably don't have the same experience. I was just curious as it looks like eventually subversion (or arch :-) will be an

Re: subversion vs cvs (Was: Re: [HACKERS] linked list rewrite)

2004-03-24 Thread David Garamond
Dustin Sallings wrote: On Mar 24, 2004, at 11:45, David Garamond wrote: So one might ask, what *will* motivate a die-hard CVS user? A real-close Bitkeeper clone? :-) Since it's illegal for anyone who uses Bitkeeper's free license to contribute to another project, does anyone know

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread David Garamond
Michael Glaesemann wrote: Just to speak up (as an avid lurker), I agree with Jeroen that this distinction is quite subtle and may cause confusion. Some may even expect the two to resolve to the same site, as a lot of popular sites own .com/.net/.org, all resolving to the same site. Speaking of

Re: [HACKERS] Sigh, 7.3.6 rewrap not right

2004-03-05 Thread David Garamond
Steve Crawford wrote: Please, don't call it 7.3.6. Streamlining releases is terrible. 7.3.7 or 7.3.6.1 or SOMETHING other than 7.3.6, and just let 7.3.6 be a brown paper bag release (like 6.4.1 was). There were no code-change differences in this rewrap, so I see no real need to change the

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] What's left?

2004-01-23 Thread David Garamond
Dann Corbit wrote: But for now I suggest that the default prefix on Windows is C:\Program Files\PostgreSQL More properly: %ProgramFiles%\PostgreSQL Another suggestion: %ProgramFiles%\PGDG\PostgreSQL (or even %ProgramFiles%\PGDG\PostgreSQL 7.5). Apache2 uses %ProgramFiles%\Apache Group\Apache2.

Re: [HACKERS] What's planned for 7.5?

2004-01-19 Thread David Garamond
Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:12:28AM -0500, Jan Wieck wrote: and cons, none is the one size that fits all magic solution. To select Does anyone realy believe that there can be a one size fits all solution? Heck, even Oracle and IBM offer a couple of different systems,

Re: [HACKERS] And ppl complain about *our* beta cycles ...

2004-01-16 Thread David Garamond
Marc G. Fournier wrote: From the Firebird FAQ: The first beta was released on January 29, 2003. We are hoping to be close to a full release some time around Easter 2003. They are at RC8 right now ... running a *wee* bit behind scheduale :) Yes, they're pretty late. Last time I read, the only major