Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:51, Josh Berkus wrote: really the most important thing here is that we get some movement on the site in order to ditch the old VM the site lives on and get it on our new web VM. On techdocs? What part of that

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-10 Thread Josh Berkus
Justin, From memory, the OpenOffice.org surveys still run from the techdocs virtual machine too. That may or may not be the case these days, I just don't remember. Really? I thought that they were running from one of Sun's machines. Will check with Cristian. If we're hosting the

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote: Justin, From memory, the OpenOffice.org surveys still run from the techdocs virtual machine too. That may or may not be the case these days, I just don't remember. Really? I thought that they were running from one of Sun's machines. Will

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
In fact: http://oosurvey.gratismania.ro/stats On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote: Justin, From memory, the OpenOffice.org surveys still run from the techdocs virtual machine too. That may or may not be the case these days, I just

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Grabmüller
], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Friday, November 07, 2003 09:34 AM Betreff: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List [...] How can we help? Andreas? Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-09 Thread elein
emeritus is a perfectly good latin word. No need to dumb things down. --elein On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:26:29PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't contributed any code

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 22:18 To: Robert Treat Cc: Alvaro Herrera; Dave Page; Josh Berkus; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List Let me ask you

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Dave Cramer
Well the current argument aside, I do find it discouraging that there is a considerable difference between the four sites, advocacy, gborg, dev, and the main site, not only in form but in substance. I am listed on the dev site as a major contributor, but not on the advocacy site. Where was the

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Treat
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 06:32, Andreas Grabmüller wrote: Hi all, well, the most of the programming itself is done, what's currently missing is 1) Some fine tuning on the layout 2) Adding the static pages 3) Translating the pages, news, events etc. into german and maybe some other

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Robert Treat writes: I disagree... the tech and the content are separate issues, let's keep them that way or we'll never make progress on either of them. Just because one solution is technically more simple, it doesn't mean that it is the overall best solution. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled Contributors Emeritus or some such. Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim get listed that way, at least. I think the Emeritus

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Josh Berkus
Robert, on techdocs there is a todo.php file which is probably completely bogus. theres some indecision on the direction of this site. I would like to convert the whole thing to CVS, including the wiki pages that comprised the guides section. others are testing using bricolage to make a new

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, Peter appeared to be asking how additional people could get involved. Or do you *want* to keep the web group too small to get things done? Ooops! Sorry, Peter, I *completely* mis-read your e-mail. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 November 2003 22:27 To: Bruce Momjian; Tom Lane Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List Guys, Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Paulo Scardine
Emeritus is verbatin from Latin and is really very spread into most Western languages. -- Paulo Scardine I think the Emeritus word might be too hard for non-native English speakers, and even for less educated English speakers. ---(end of

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 03:21, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 November 2003 23:11 To: Josh Berkus Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List Josh Berkus

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:25:38AM -0500, Robert Treat wrote: The advocacy site does have different requirements than the main site, namely its bi-lingualness and the different target audience, but perhaps with adding bi-lingual capabilities to the main site these two sites could be brought

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Alvaro Herrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 14:47 To: Robert Treat Cc: Dave Page; Peter Eisentraut; Josh Berkus; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List On Thu, Nov 06

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 09:46, Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:25:38AM -0500, Robert Treat wrote: The advocacy site does have different requirements than the main site, namely its bi-lingualness and the different target audience, but perhaps with adding bi-lingual

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Robert Treat writes: rant we don't need links, we need patches /rant Let me ask you the questions that people always ask of us: How does one get involved? Where is the code? What is the plan? Where is the roadmap? Where can issues be discussed? Who is working on this? How can we help? --

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Let me ask you the questions that people always ask of us: This isn't helping. What Robert was pointing out is that we don't currently have enough people writing HTML and PHP to finish improving the site anytime soon. Robert doesn't need managerial direction. Or did you have

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter, Let me ask you the questions that people always ask of us: This isn't helping. What Robert was pointing out is that we don't currently have enough people writing HTML and PHP to finish improving the site anytime soon. Peter appeared to be asking

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Treat
On Thursday 06 November 2003 17:18, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Robert Treat writes: rant we don't need links, we need patches /rant Let me ask you the questions that people always ask of us: How does one get involved? post proposals to pgsql-www and start coding Where is the code?

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't contributed any code since 7.1.0? I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled Contributors

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Josh Berkus
Guys, Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers? It's about 4 years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in January. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: Guys, Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers? It's about 4 years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in January. Agreed. I think Jan is the only one who knows how to updated it. Jan? -- Bruce Momjian

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josh Berkus wrote: Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers? It's about 4 years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in January. Agreed. Yeah. It was cute when we did it but it's overkill as a way

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, Yeah. It was cute when we did it but it's overkill as a way of pointing out that we have a worldwide development community. We can just say that... I'll be happy to re-do it someday using OOo's imagemapper. But not this week ... -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Neil Conway
Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers? It's about 4 years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in January. Personally, I don't really see the need for developer.postgresql.org to be a separate

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Neil Conway writes: Personally, I don't really see the need for developer.postgresql.org to be a separate sub-site. Since it is basically just a collection of links to other resources (CVSweb, TODO list, devel docs build, etc.), why not just make it a page or two on www.postgresql.org? I

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't contributed any code since 7.1.0? I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be deleted, but would be moved to a

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled Contributors Emeritus or some such. Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim get listed that way, at least. I think the Emeritus word might be too hard for non-native

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
I think the Emeritus word might be too hard for non-native English speakers, and even for less educated English speakers. Isn't that an even better reason to use it? :) My personal opinion would be that they can use dictionary.com if they don't know what it means. Chris