[Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused experiment) Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ dir present Issue 205: [ENH] 10% faster senders of

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Damien Cassou
May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused experiment) Issue 194: some random

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused experiment) Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Michael Roberts
Hi Marcus, good batch of changes! I'm just trying to understand the process by which you made these, since I was going to make some more that are dependent on it. I didn't see a SLICE-xx for these changes in PharoInbox, just the later version of the individual packages in Pharo. Is this

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 10:37, Damien Cassou wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) Marcus On Wed, Oct 1,

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) I may not

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 10:42, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused experiment) Issue 194: some random cleanups from

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 11:03, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Schwab
I will confess to being in a similar situation. I have been grabbing new images and looking at them, but am hoping to wait for the integration before moving my code from my very old (in Pharo time) image to a more recent one. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused experiment) Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ dir

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Simon Not entirely fair I know, but I'm using the demo TT + PolyMorph image which was based on 10074. If I try to update from the server on this image it throws up an emergency debugger, which is unsavable. This may well be expected, given that the TT and PolyMorph integration isn't a

[Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Dear list, In PharoInbox Gwenael and I put an extension of SUnit that records results when running a set of test. Feel free to suggest improvement Open a TestRunner to enjoy its 'History' button. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In PharoInbox Gwenael and I put an extension of SUnit that records results when running a set of test. Feel free to suggest improvement Open a TestRunner to enjoy its 'History' button. Please have a look at the

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
can you tell us more? I cannot acces the wiki page. I once tried to see the differences between SUnit and testing but I could not really extract something. Stef On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In

[Pharo-project] Image tidyup convention

2008-10-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
I would really like if Pharo will introduce a convention for tidying up the image, proposed by Keith. It could save a lot of time and nerves for developers/maintainers :) http://www.nabble.com/Squeak-low-on-space...-td13243777.html#a13244357 -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Re: [Pharo-project] Image tidyup convention

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I saw it is below :) I like the idea now it would be good to specify it a bit better. Stef I would really like if Pharo will introduce a convention for tidying up the image, proposed by Keith. It could save a lot of time and nerves for developers/maintainers :)

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 11:15, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was

[Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I tried to load the following code into 10082 and 10083 in 10082 it works like a charm, in 10083 loadOB self loadOB | instClass | instClass := self environment at: #Installer ifAbsent: [self new installingInstaller]. instClass ss project:

Re: [Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Keith Hodges
Why do your scripts use a temporary variable, this means that you cannot select part of the script and Doit. This is one of the design goals of Installer, that you be able to execute scripts either wholly or in parts. You would be far better off referring to Installer directly or to 'self

Re: [Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Because we do not want to have a dandling reference if the package is not loaded. :) We want to be clean :) Stef On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:53 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: Why do your scripts use a temporary variable, this means that you cannot select part of the script and Doit. This is one of the

Re: [Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: Stef, To reproduce, one would start with 10083 and invoke Installer loadOB. Is that correct? We found the problem :) some magic in bytecode generation that was broken. It will be a couple of hours before I would have time to try it, and

Re: [Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 20:18, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: Stef, To reproduce, one would start with 10083 and invoke Installer loadOB. Is that correct? We found the problem :) some magic in bytecode generation that was broken. Update 10084 fixes

Re: [Pharo-project] strange problem with 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 20:57, Marcus Denker wrote: On 01.10.2008, at 20:18, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: Stef, To reproduce, one would start with 10083 and invoke Installer loadOB. Is that correct? We found the problem :) some magic in bytecode

[Pharo-project] [build broken] 10083/10084

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
Please dont' update, it's broken right now. (And I don't have time to fix it, I have to admit) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 10:53, Michael Roberts wrote: Hi Marcus, good batch of changes! I'm just trying to understand the process by which you made these, since I was going to make some more that are dependent on it. I didn't see a SLICE-xx for these changes in PharoInbox, just the later version

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess under Pharo

2008-10-01 Thread bryce
Bill Schwab writes: Bryce, Thanks for your reply. Actually, I mentioned FFI etc. because that appeared to be a way to get what OSProcess wanted in terms of dependencies; using Universes should handle that part for me. FFI would be of interest on its own, but appears to make people

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.10.2008, at 11:27, Simon Kirk wrote: Not entirely fair I know, but I'm using the demo TT + PolyMorph image which was based on 10074. If I try to update from the server on this image it throws up an emergency debugger, which is unsavable. Yes, this will not work. This may well be

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [build broken] 10083/10084

2008-10-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks marcus ! Stef On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On 01.10.2008, at 21:04, Marcus Denker wrote: Please dont' update, it's broken right now. (And I don't have time to fix it, I have to admit) Fixed. Make sure to update to 10084, this has the compiler bug fixed. --

Re: [Pharo-project] Image tidyup convention

2008-10-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
2008/10/1 Stéphane Ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok I saw it is below :) I like the idea now it would be good to specify it a bit better. I think Keith can describe it more detailed. Keith? As for me, a simple #cleanUp message added to Behavior is more than enough. Then system utils can do a

Re: [Pharo-project] SIF working - needs a small fix

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Schwab
Bryce, It's every line of (eventually, if all goes well) several years worth of work. YIKES!! :) Speaking of the mac, does Wikipedia have it right? Did they change from CR to LF in OS-X? Do we plan a similar move? Regardless, I should be able to drop extra control characters either on the

Re: [Pharo-project] How to integrate Kernel-Extensions

2008-10-01 Thread Matthew Fulmer
I know about some of these. I'll leave my comments On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:53:25PM +0200, Damien Pollet wrote: Hi list, we (with Stef) are browsing Kernel-Extensions, here are some notes for discussion, as we think there is stuff that should be merged in Pharo. Most of the cleanup

Re: [Pharo-project] How to integrate Kernel-Extensions

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Schwab
Damien, Stef, I would argue for #trimBlanks (very useful), #trimLineBreak (I do not recall needing this one, but clearl you do, so go for it), and keeping #withoutTrailing: as a separate entry point; write the others in terms of it. IIRC, #trimBlanks probably should trim leading as well as

[Pharo-project] Space tally

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Schwab
Adrian, I ran the space tally, and have found, even after WARegistry clearAllHandlers. Smalltalk garbageCollect. that there are still some Seaside entrails present in the image. In particular, there are 11 instances of WAApplication, and 4 instances of WADispatcher. There are

[Pharo-project] Cleanup - a concern

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Schwab
I started Smalltalk on an educational discount copy of V-DOS, and then launched at a discounted copy of V-Win. The latter was particularly prone to crashing during a save-and-exit. To this day, I save, and then exit w/o saving. I can't get past it :) Humor aside, I would prefer to have a way

Re: [Pharo-project] How to integrate Kernel-Extensions

2008-10-01 Thread Keith Hodges
#withoutTrailing: is useful for things like, knocking the end off a url or path. url withoutTrailing: $/ Keith ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project