Re: [Pharo-project] Missing info in the change log

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 15, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: Hi, we realized (after pharo crash) that there are some code changes that are not save to the changes file. Most of the are related to dynamically defining the change. Yes some are missing and the class definition in cs would be

Re: [Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so...

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sure! Stef On May 14, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Stef, I am motivated, perhaps not as (yet) empowered/capable as I would like. However, I am open to taking a stab at it. If I find I can get traction, I would be happy to put time on it. I suspect much of my ability

Re: [Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so...

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 14, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Cool Stef, please note that Pharo has gotten good enough that we are starting to sweat over this type of minutia. Many thanks! :) What would be great is that we get some free fonts to improve the default look. But I have no

Re: [Pharo-project] Iso-Collections ....

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guido This is good to have people with kicking ass arguments. Thanks for that. Now pay attention that you do not fall only in this category because after a while this will get the inverse effect to what you want to achieve. Because I imagine that you want us to be much better and we will try

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: In my opinion this could be in the Pharo dev image by default. Let me think... ok :-D -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/5/15 Romain Robbes romain.rob...@lu.unisi.ch: Could you describe the symptoms more precisely? I was especially careful so that the completion should be actually faster than the default one (ECompletion looks at all the symbols in the image, whereas OCompletion looks in a much more

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Register and contribute to ESUG Conference 2009

2009-05-15 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Dear Smalltalk enthusiastics, The registration to 17th edition of the ESUG Conference. So, you can already register and benefit from the early bird fees. Note that if your company is a gold or platinum sponsor, you have a discount (10% or 20%). More online:

Re: [Pharo-project] Iso-Collections

2009-05-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Guido Stepken wrote: LSWVST introduces a new object-type - IsoCollections. Iso-Collections stores type information of its elements only once. That's nice, but not enough. Collections with more than a few thousand elements should use multiple blocks of memory (e.g. btree) to have acceptable

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Issue 812:[FIX] Debugger fix from Eliot Miranda http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=812 - issue 808:Preference alternativeBrowseIt to settings refactoring http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=808 - Issue 813:Preference to settings refactoring:

[Pharo-project] Patch ready to be included

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=36 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them. James Iry ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo splash

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
Thank you, I think that will be useful for the Pharo release. 2009/5/15 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de: Sorry for bloating your mailbox but in case someone is in the need for a splash screen for presenting Pharo you will find one attached. Otherwise delete this mail. This is also in

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Yes, I tried it on a pharo-dev image. I thought that there could be a conflict between ecomp and ocomp but I also thought that ocomp would disable ecomp when loading... anyway, I did not have the time to check that so I went to the previous image. (BTW I also tried to load ocomp on a pharo-core

[Pharo-project] How to log in console in Windows

2009-05-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi folks! I am calling a external shared library with FFI. This library does some puts(); or printf(); In Linux, I open Squeak from command line and I can see the outputs of puts() and printf() in the console where I started Squeak. The problem is in Windows. I tried opening Squeak from cmd but

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Oscar Nierstrasz
I have a naive question -- what exactly do the numbers 10305 and 10306 refer to? Where can I find these numbers in the Pharo system or on the web site? I can see the numbers flying by when I update, but I cannot tell what the final version number is after updating. - on

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.chwrote: I have a naive question -- what exactly do the numbers 10305 and 10306 refer to? Where can I find these numbers in the Pharo system or on the web site? This is the version that is released. This must be unique per

[Pharo-project] style preserving for code file out ?

2009-05-15 Thread Alain Plantec
Hi all, What is the usefulness of preserving code style for method logging ? I personally always answer no when, while accepting some code, I've to answer to This method contains style for the first time (e.g. bold or colored text). Do you really want to save the style info?. Regarding the

[Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

2009-05-15 Thread Oscar Nierstrasz
Just checked in as http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/SUnitGUI-onierstrasz.38.mcz Now you can declare classes to exclude from coverage analysis by defining #classNamesNotUnderTest on the class side of your test to return an array of names of those classes.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Oscar Nierstrasz
Thanks! - on On May 15, 2009, at 16:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: System - about. There you can see latest update: X ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/5/15 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com: Yes, I tried it on a pharo-dev image. I thought that there could be a conflict between ecomp and ocomp but I also thought that ocomp would disable ecomp when loading... anyway, I did not have the time to check that so I went to the

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

2009-05-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.chwrote: Just checked in as http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/SUnitGUI-onierstrasz.38.mcz Now you can declare classes to exclude from coverage analysis by defining #classNamesNotUnderTest on the class side of your test

[Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
New Pharo with OCompletion http://pharo-project.org/download -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them. James Iry ___ Pharo-project mailing

Re: [Pharo-project] Inspect it wrong shortcut

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Can someone confirm this ? This is fixed in recent versions. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them. James Iry

Re: [Pharo-project] style preserving for code file out ?

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: another way of asking this question would be can I remove this feature ? +1 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not

Re: [Pharo-project] style preserving for code file out ?

2009-05-15 Thread Lukas Renggli
Yeah, we don't want to store methods as text, just plain strings is perfectly fine. Lukas On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: another way of asking this question would be can I

[Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi all (and matthew we need your guidance/help) We really want to get pharo 1.0 license clean. It would be bad that 1.0 is not. But 1.0 should get out before summer. Here is a collection of all the information I collected on the topic: Here what matthew wrote I've done the first step

[Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

2009-05-15 Thread Steve Wirts
Folks, Attached is a very simple gui tool inspired from a tool that used to exist in VW smalltalk years ago. I suspect it could be rewritten as a single function. Please incorporate into Pharo if you think it's useful. Steve ViewExplorer.st Description: Binary data

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

2009-05-15 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
I also applied all of yoshiki's etoys changes to 3.10.2. The algorithm that Yoshiki seemed to follow when cleaning etoys is: - If the method can be easily deleted, delete it - Otherwise, use the historical image [1] to revert to the latest version before the problematic

Re: [Pharo-project] Inspect it wrong shortcut

2009-05-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Can someone confirm this ? This is fixed in recent versions. Are you sure? It still doesn't work for me. Note that inspect it is the only one that doesn't

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo splash

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 15, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: Thank you, I think that will be useful for the Pharo release. 2009/5/15 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de: Sorry for bloating your mailbox but in case someone is in the need for a splash screen for presenting Pharo you will find one attached.

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing info in the change log

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi, we realized (after pharo crash) that there are some code changes that are not save to the changes file. Most of the are related to dynamically defining the change. Yes some are missing and the class definition in cs would be really welcomed because doit for classdef is annoying.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Oscar the update is a stream of cs the update list is then a list such as 10001... 10002 10010 each of these can be a simple cs (as in Squeak3.8) in 3.9 or pharo here is a typical CS Postscript: Leave the line above, and replace the rest of this comment by a useful one. Executable

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
from the wiki on google not the pharo web site which is for the marketing Stef On May 15, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.ch wrote: Just checked in as

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

2009-05-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: from the wiki on google not the pharo web site which is for the marketing but isn't this marketing ? Most marketing websites have a FAQ section. Stef On May 15, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi steve what is the difference with the explorer. If you want to have flash just send us a new menu for explorer? Stef On May 15, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Steve Wirts wrote: Folks, Attached is a very simple gui tool inspired from a tool that used to exist in VW smalltalk years ago. I suspect

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Perhaps^^; :) Does Pharo have ScaledDecimal and it is used? it ha but I do not know if this is used. If so, that would be the biggest piece that would be removed. There wouldn't be any serious bugs that would cause major trouble otherwise. I can help you after school gets out in a

Re: [Pharo-project] style preserving for code file out ?

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Plain text. if in the future people want to story hyperlink (which would be cool) it should be redone. Stef On May 15, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: Hi all, What is the usefulness of preserving code style for method logging ? I personally always answer no when, while accepting

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo splash

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yeap we feel the pressure :) On May 15, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: Thank you, I think that will be useful for the Pharo release. 2009/5/15 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de: Sorry for bloating your mailbox but in case someone is in the need for a splash screen for presenting

[Pharo-project] UTF-8 strikes back...

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I followed the advices and started to give a try with the latest VM 4.1.1beta2U and 10306 |m d f| m := MethodHistoryDatabase new. MethodHistoryChangeList ignoreNonExsiting: false. m readFile: 'SqueakV1.sources' encodingName: 'mac-roman'. d := FileDirectory default directoryNamed:

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

2009-05-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
no for now we have a website for pharo and a website for pharo geek on code. We want to make sure that a client of a pharo company can be ok to pay a project in pharo and do not get a ugly web site full of dust and unused wiki like crap. Stef On May 15, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Mariano Martinez

Re: [Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

2009-05-15 Thread Steve Wirts
Stef, Only submorphs, the gui hierarchy are shown, this is a really useful capability when trying to understand deeply nested complex gui structures. I suppose we could put a toggle button on a menu option on explorer to turn on differernt tree-paths to show as the sub-children. I will try to do

Re: [Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

2009-05-15 Thread Dale Henrichs
- Steve Wirts stevewi...@gmail.com wrote: | Stef, | | Only submorphs, the gui hierarchy are shown, this is a really useful | capability when trying to understand deeply nested complex gui | structures. | I suppose we could put a toggle button on a menu option on explorer to | turn | on

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Try the very latest Pharo (please stop using the name pharo-dev (I know I'm still doing it but that's a mistake :-)) ups... I'm confused... in previous mails I read that one image is Pharo-core, another pharo-dev and another pharo-web... Why should we not make that distinction? sorry but I do not

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/5/15 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com: ups... I'm confused... in previous mails I read that one image is Pharo-core, another pharo-dev and another pharo-web... Why should we not make that distinction? sorry but I do not understand This is not your fault, it's a bit complex

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Thanks! I understand now. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/5/15 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com: ups... I'm confused... in previous mails I read that one image is Pharo-core, another pharo-dev and another pharo-web... Why should

Re: [Pharo-project] How to log in console in Windows

2009-05-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Mariano, H. Something not working in Windows - imaging that :) Sorry, I feel your pain and am trying to run for the Penguin-filled hills as we speak. Dumb question: have you tried the OS Process plugin. I've only skimmed it in Squeak/Pharo, but there is a similar goodie for Dolphin,

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

2009-05-15 Thread Robbes Romain
Hi Hernan, OCompletion is actually an add-on for ECompletion, so it does not disable it. As for the class name issue, and the case where the receiver is self, I will look into it. Thanks for the feedback, Romain From: