[Pharo-project] Issue 1554

2009-12-08 Thread Danny Chan
Hi! I just uploaded my first fix (or so I hope) for Pharo to the Inbox as Ocompletion-DannyChan.44, following the instructions on the wiki for contributions. When selecting a text in a workspace including the first character in the window and hitting backspace, an exception will be thrown by

[Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

2009-12-08 Thread alain . plantec
Hi all, While migrating a preference for it I noticed that at least, it is not very well integrated in pharo... Before I open an issue (if none already opened) I would like to know what people think about it. Personally I would not be very sad to see it killed :) Thanks Alain

Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, While migrating a preference for it I noticed that at least, it is not very well integrated in pharo... Before I open an issue (if none already opened) I would like to know what people think about it. Personally I would not

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

2009-12-08 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Tim, On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Tim Mackinnon tamackin...@gmail.com wrote: Guys - do you think you might consider bringing back the little Readme Workspace in the final 1.0 image (or maybe 1.1)? there is no technical difficulty. Could you please provide a text? I will take care of

Re: [Pharo-project] Scriptloader classloadFFI

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:44 AM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:31:01PM +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: This is wrong. It is FFI-Pools not FFI-Pool. But I am sure I tested it. So, it seems Andreas has changed it again. So, it must be:

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1554

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Danny, Thanks for your contribution. Your change is in the package Ocompletion, which is outside Pharo- core. This package is maintained by Romain. I added Romain to CC so he can merge your fix into the main branch of Ocompletion. Cheers, Adrian On Dec 8, 2009, at 09:09 , Danny Chan

Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
+1 On Dec 8, 2009, at 09:17 , Marcus Denker wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, While migrating a preference for it I noticed that at least, it is not very well integrated in pharo... Before I open an issue (if none already opened) I would like to

[Pharo-project] [ANN] pre-built 1.1#11078

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24983/PharoCore-1.1-11078-alpha.zip Marcus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Please note that there is an issue in the tracker that discusses this. I've suggested to add a workspace but do not add a long text and code but link to the pages on the web that contain it so that we can more easily make updates. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1479 Tim,

[Pharo-project] FontTesttestDisplay failing in Pharo image due to new StrikeFonts

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi, The test FontTesttestDisplay fails in the latest Pharo image. If somebody has a bit of time left, it would be great to get a fix. We are almost down to 0 failures/errors in the Pharo image... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1555 Adrian ___

Re: [Pharo-project] VMMaker in Pharo.

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:00 AM, arnaud Jean Baptiste jbaptiste.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Mariano i don't have update the wiki of pharo, will do make that soon. If you want to run easily VMMaker i building a loader of VMMaker for pharo. on squeaksource: JBARepo VMMakerloader and run

Re: [Pharo-project] FontTesttestDisplay failing in Pharo image due to new StrikeFonts

2009-12-08 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:00 34AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, The test FontTesttestDisplay fails in the latest Pharo image. If somebody has a bit of time left, it would be great to get a fix. We are almost down to 0 failures/errors in the Pharo image...

Re: [Pharo-project] FontTesttestDisplay failing in Pharo image due to new StrikeFonts

2009-12-08 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 11:01 +0100, Henrik Johansen escribió: On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:00 34AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: I've rewritten that test to be more robust, issue 1556 with slice in inbox. Cheers, Henry And it was in just one hour! Great work, thank you very much! -- Miguel Cobá

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:41 PM, John M McIntosh john...@smalltalkconsulting.com wrote: I should relate our experience with segments in Sophie was not helpful. We attempted to segment off our font menu since it was expensive to build, and really only needed to be changed if the fonts on the

[Pharo-project] Issue 1558: The old preference browser should be as much functionnal as possible while migrating to the new setting system

2009-12-08 Thread alain . plantec
SLICE-PreferencesMigration-Part6 in InBox - make the old preference browser fully functional again. * hacked PreferencepreferenceValue, Preference preferenceValue:, PreferencerawValue: and PreferencetogglePreferenceValue. * new Preferences class method category settings-migration:

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: Hi Sheri, Sounds ok to make new: raise an exception if you adjust the tests (and any code that exists in the image using new: (but I assume there is none)). However, the actual reason why you get multiple same symbols

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11079

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
11079 - Issue 1558: The old preference browser should be as much functionnal as possible while migrating to the new setting system Issue 1552: Add Floatulp support SLICE-PreferencesMigration-Part6 in InBox - make the old preference browser fully functional again. *

[Pharo-project] linked in pharo group :)

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
You can register :) Not sure that this is useful but may be fun :) Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

[Pharo-project] BUG: 'Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable' with Interpreter

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi folks! I having this problem in pharo1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4 but I cannot reproduce it in PharoCore-1.1-11078-ALPHA I don't think it is because of the Pharo version but becuase of dev/core. I would like to tested in a dev from 11078 but the last one I tested was not working as I have warings

Re: [Pharo-project] VMMaker in Pharo.

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:00 AM, arnaud Jean Baptiste jbaptiste.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Mariano i don't have update the wiki of pharo, will do make that soon. If you want to run easily VMMaker i

Re: [Pharo-project] linked in pharo group :)

2009-12-08 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Thanks Stef! Kind of like Facebook in a suit, isn't it? ;-) -- Cheers, Peter On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: You can register :) Not sure that this is useful but may be fun :) Stef ___

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11080

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
11080 - Issue 1528: Transparent rendering of Line Feeds (LF) Issue 1478: ScriptLoader loadFFI fails with a dependency error (again) ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Window drag and drop strange behavior in 1.1 latest

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
fixed! Thanks I will integrate it when I'm back home. Stef On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:25 PM, alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: SystemWindowAboutToBeGrabbedByFix.1.cs ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Cannot update behind a proxy

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
just below the old one. On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2009/12/7 Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr: Nicolas Cellier a écrit : OK, I manually set a class var in the debugger, but find awkward that the Preferences Browser would not do that for me... Nicolas, do you

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloRepository is online

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It would be nice to have one per version Pharo1.0 Pharo1.1 May be people should use this convention in file names? Stef On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Hi, I created the project MetacelloRepository as a centralized repository for meta-packages, and started uploading

[Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Hi, the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. Dev09.11.4 looks fine Maybe is a preference setting? Hernan attachment: MenuDev12-1.pngattachment: MenuDev11-4.png___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+ 2 We kept it because we thought gary used it but this is not the case. Stef On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: +1 On Dec 8, 2009, at 09:17 , Marcus Denker wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, While migrating a preference for it I

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread laurent laffont
Hi, I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 Laurent 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com Hi, the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files I have Ubuntu

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

2009-12-08 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Can I suggest something like the following (all suggestions welcome - I am trying to have something that is welcoming as well as something that allows people to jump right in and try things, and/or then go to places with more complete documentation like others have suggested): Pharo+Seaside

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10500

2009-12-08 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Gary Chambers wrote: As for Preferences, they are like that (the old preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings unless special care is taken). This is in 1.0rc1 and there's no new stuff for preference browsing. Levente Regards, Gary -

[Pharo-project] can I debug a primitive?

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Yes, I am newbie with low stuff like this. I have downloaded VMMaker and browse the class Interpreter to see the smalltalk (slang) code of the primitives I want to investigate that are primitiveStoreImageSegment and primitiveLoadImageSegment.now, the question is, should I be able to put a self

Re: [Pharo-project] can I debug a primitive?

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
That would be nice indeed. And you can do it if you simulate the VM, i.e., run the interpreter inside an image as Smalltalk code. To get the interpreter working may be challenging, though. I once had a working version and submitted some patches to Mantis. I don't think these were

Re: [Pharo-project] systemwindow grabbing fix

2009-12-08 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Alain, If this is what I think it is, THANKS!! AFAIK, Pinesoft's StandardWindow is immune, which might offer some helpful code?? Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be something different in this new image... 2009/12/8 laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com: Hi, I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM  Squeak-3.11.3.2135. See: 

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Henrik Johansen
The default fonts were changed, now Bitmap StrikeFonts are used instead of a TrueType font. Thus, the rendering method is completely different, and the use in StrikeFont rendering of some BitBlt methods revealed bugs in the alpha channel handling in said methods that previously went unnoticed.

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be something different in this new image... It uses pre-rendered sub-pixel fonts instead of rendering the fonts via FreeType. (Much faster, not quite as nice in details).

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11081

2009-12-08 Thread Marcus Denker
11081 - Issue 1527: Move *Freetype-override back to Graphics in CharacterScanner co Issue 1560: ImageSegment: recategorize some methtods Issue 1556: FontTest testResetAfterEmphasis fails with StrikeFont ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:08 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: When you are creating your root of objects and you put symbols inside, they are not put in ourPointers but in ByteArray. This is due to the fact that the

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

2009-12-08 Thread Reg Krock
This has to do with learning styles. There was an interesting discussion on the vw or squeak list a few weeks ago about this. One wants something to allow people to choose what fits their learning style in their initial contact. In addtion to Tim's susggestions, a series of videos could also be

Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

2009-12-08 Thread Gary Chambers
Indeed, sure I said before that it can go... Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar + 2 We kept it because

Re: [Pharo-project] Dealing with Preferences in external packages?

2009-12-08 Thread Gary Chambers
I was thinking ahead to the point where there would be shared settings amongst disparate packages... would be nice to not introduce a superficail dependency. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Gary Chambers
Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for underline/strikeout... even if only stub where rendered by a StrikeFont. Would help a lot for other canvas types (PDF, PostScript etc.)... For instance, a P{DF canvas would draw the underline using graphics primitives... Regards, Gary

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloRepository is online

2009-12-08 Thread Dale Henrichs
It is possible to do platform-specific configurations within the same configuration. For GLASS, I generate the following attributes: #'gs2.4.x' #'gs2.3.x' #'gs2.x' #'gs3.x' So that I can specify different package versions based on which underlying version of GemStone is running. A similar

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
It should be explained somewhere how to replace StrikeFonts for FreeType. Or even better, a preference for that maybe be cool. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gary Chambers gazzagu...@btinternet.comwrote: Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for underline/strikeout... even if

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Why a preference? Its just a matter of selecting the font you like: System Preferences System fonts In the Font Browser you can click on Update and you *should* get all your system fonts. The problem is, that the font browser does not update. If you open it again, you see the fonts. I

[Pharo-project] ClassTree new openOn: Collection :)

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I started to understand MorphTreeMorph to build a class documentation browsing browser and I discovered that ClassTree new openOn: Collection ClassList new openOn: Collection This is really a good start. We could have it for package and displaying methods Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] macintosh cocoa 32/64bit 64/64bit VM goes BETA

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Roberts
Hi John, it was not the pharo image, but the pharo core image. You can get them direct from the inria download area. This is linked off the pharo-project site. 11049 was an internal update so start from http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24763/PharoCore-1.1-11043-alpha.zip I will do this

Re: [Pharo-project] BUG: 'Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable' with Interpreter

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2009/12/8 Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no Although I'm unable to reproduce it, it seems to me the possibility of a situation where this error could occur increases if text compositing takes too long. (notice how primitiveStoreImageSegment is ). Reasoning; - In TextMorph

Re: [Pharo-project] ClassTree new openOn: Collection :)

2009-12-08 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, Where does this work? My RC1 image either does not contain the classes, or I'm being too dense to see the corrected thing in the list of choices. Interested, if only as examples to help me with a couple of tasks... Bill -Original Message- From:

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
I tried that but I didn't know it was not refreshing :-) We found and reported this problem a few months ago with Juan Manuel Vuletich (the alpha channel error) BTW, on Mac, the monticello browser's buttons don't look good nether On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10500

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sure there is no new stuff this is the old preference mess :) This is why alain is working like a mad to fix that since 6 months. Stef On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Gary Chambers wrote: As for Preferences, they are like that (the old preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

2009-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys Please kick my ass :) I should do some new videos I will try to do that over christmas. The old ones are here http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Videos/ Now what would be good is that we get a group of videos One week ago we pairprogram in the train with lukas Stef On Dec 8, 2009,

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:08 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: When you are creating your root of objects and you put symbols inside, they are

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:08 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: Why a preference? Its just a matter of selecting the font you like: System Preferences System fonts In the Font Browser you can click on Update and you *should* get all your system fonts. The problem is, that the font

Re: [Pharo-project] DeprecationHistory

2009-12-08 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2009/12/8 Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr: Hi all, One of my recents slice for preferences migration has made pharo nearly unusable because a lot of  deprecation dialogs was opened for a single browser. Then, the user had to forbid the deprecation warnings in order to avoid these popups.

Re: [Pharo-project] DeprecationHistory

2009-12-08 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 08.12.2009 23:28, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2009/12/8 Alain Plantecalain.plan...@free.fr: Hi all, One of my recents slice for preferences migration has made pharo nearly unusable because a lot of deprecation dialogs was opened for a single browser. Then, the user had to forbid the

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of Symbol new: ?

2009-12-08 Thread John M McIntosh
The chore of loading all 500 fonts on a macintosh, rendering them all to show what they look like, was *quite* expensive and added many 10's of seconds to Sophie startup time. At first we dumped the entire font menu oops tree into a image segment. The did a merge process by checking the